How much more money will we waste??

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How much more money will we waste??

Billions spent in a country that gives nothing in return. In the meanwhile, our elderly struggle to retire and make health insurence payments... What is your thoughts on this? My thought is we are making Africa dependant on us rather than responsible for thier own actions.



DAR ES SALAAM, Tanzania - President Bush is betting Congress will hear him better from the heart of Africa than it does from down the street in Washington.


Foreign aid programs that Bush sees as crowning achievements ? and which he holds dear ? are having their spending levels questioned on Capitol Hill. By visiting Africa for six days to showcase their results, Bush aims to change that in the short term and secure the programs' future beyond his presidency.

His first stop Saturday was Benin, a tiny sliver on West Africa's coast. Hundreds of millions of U.S. dollars are helping to pay for an aggressive anti-malaria campaign, the training of tens of thousands of teachers and reforms to Benin's judiciary, port and financial systems.

"My trip here is a way to remind future presidents and future Congresses that it is in the national interest and in the moral interests of the United States of America to help people," Bush said.

The first American president to visit Benin, Bush spent three hours at the airport in Cotonou. He promoted progress in the country and then flew across the continent to Tanzania after his plane refueled,

On Sunday and Monday, Bush planned to highlight a new aid pact with Tanzania as well as U.S.-funded efforts on AIDS, malaria and education.

Bush also goes to Rwanda, Ghana and Liberia. Like Benin and Tanzania, they are desperately poor but making strides, with U.S. help, on economic growth, the rule of law and better living conditions.

The president's aid programs are a shift from the past and generally have drawn bipartisan support in Washington.

His five-year, $15 billion AIDS relief plan is the largest-ever international health initiative devoted to one disease, raising the number of people on anti-retroviral treatments from 50,000 to 1.3 million.

A five-year, $1.2 billion anti-malaria initiative has reached 25 million Africans with insecticide-treated bed nets, a simple but effective solution to a deadly problem.

One foreign aid program started under Bush, the Millennium Challenge Corporation, limits U.S. development assistance only to nations that embrace democracy and free markets, fight corruption and invest in education and health. It has approved $5.5 billion in compacts with 16 countries, nine in Africa.

Programs such as these have kept the United States relatively popular in Africa, unlike throughout the rest of the world. Yet even ordinary people here consistently express surprise, as have Africa experts at home, at Bush's largesse. Bush was asked by a Beninese reporter whether his visit was "a stunt."

Thousands of people lined Bush's motorcade route the entire way in from the airport in Dar es Salaam. He was greeted by dancers in tan shirts bearing his likeness and waving American flags.

Bush wants $30 billion over the next five years for his AIDS program. Democrats complain that is too little and there is debate about its emphasis on abstinence and requirement of anti-prostitution pledges.

His Millennium Challenge approach is more threatened, in part because of a slow initial pace of getting the money out. Lawmakers gave it $1.5 billion for the last budget year, half of Bush's request, and seem to be similarly inclined this year.

Lobbying for it from Benin, Bush said it is a more effective way of helping Africa ? by helping countries there help themselves.

"I reject some of the old-style type of grants, which basically said, let's feel better, we'll just give some money out," he said. "We believe that rather than making ourselves feel better, that our money ought to make the people of a particular country feel better about their government."

He has called the program an alternative giving because of either "guilt" over colonialism or "gluttony" for Africa's many resources. Maintaining the program as U.S. policy after he leaves office next January is a a priority.

Every one of the five countries on Bush's itinerary has a stake in that. Benin has a $307 million compact, Ghana has a $547 million one and the centerpiece of Bush's Tanzania visit is the signing of its $698 million deal, the biggest so far. Rwanda is a "threshold" country and Liberia's goal is to get there, too.

"He is here to support the countries which strive to be virtuous," said Benin's president, Thomas Boni Yayi.

Bush traveled to Africa at a time of several conflicts. An electoral dispute in Kenya turned into a wave of ethnic violence in that once-model country; atrocities in Sudan's western Darfur region are continuing and causing tension with neighboring Chad; places such as the Horn of Africa, Congo and Zimbabwe are seeing an escalation of long-running troubles.

Bush said he would discuss the strife "and expect there to be, you know, focus and concrete action" at each stop, many of which take him to the doorstep of the conflicts. He said his administration has a strong record on trying to find solutions on this violence-plagued continent.

He defended his trip's overarching emphasis on the positive all the same.

"When you herald success, it helps others realize what is possible," Bush said. "This is a large place with a lot of nations, and no question not everything is perfect. On the other hand, there's a lot of great success stories, and the United States is pleased to be involved with those success stories."

On Kenya, Bush endorsed a power-sharing agreement on Saturday. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is peeling off from his entourage on Monday to make a quick mediating trip to Nairobi. Her top Africa deputy said that anyone on either side who obstructs the political process will face U.S. penalties. "There will be not be business as usual," Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Jendayi Frazer told reporters traveling on Air Force One with Bush.

Bush also he hopes to use his Rwanda visit to press for a speedier deployment of a joint African Union-U.N. peacekeeping force to Darfur. Bush intends to thank Rwandans for contributing the largest contingent of troops to that mission, a gentle nudge to nations he believes are not doing enough.

Bush's welcome in Tanzania was not all positive. In the country that was the site of one of the deadly truck bombings against U.S. embassies in 1998, a Muslim group demonstrated Friday against his visit in Dar es Salaam's streets.
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RE: How much more money will we waste??

Africa is a screwed up mess with screwed up people, kind of like Iraq but even less sophisticated.

Bush had to do something he has no choice a country like the US can't just sit by and watch genocide, organized rape and starvation any longer. after using the welfare and smiles of the Iraqi people as an excuse for our last debacle, it's pretty hard to look cool sitting on our thumbs in a world already suspicious of us while all this goes on. this is one of those things that just has to be done, I don't know what the answer is and if Bush doesn't either I won't blame him on this one.
 
RE: How much more money will we waste??

....give them knives and let them fight, then shoot the winners.

JB
 
RE: How much more money will we waste??

THEM AFRICANS ARE STILL HUNTIN EACH OTHER DOWN & FEASTING ON EACH OTHER!!!

SEND THEM SOME MORE SPEARS!!!

IMMORAL LOWLIFE BASTARDS!!!

THIS IS MY NEW GUN,YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT,YOU'LL LIKE IT A HELL OF A LOT LESS WHEN IT HITS ITS DESTINATION!!!
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THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
 
RE: How much more money will we waste??

How pathetic! Bush just can't seem to buy a legacy! Way too little! Way too late! The Bush administration has gone down in flames at the cost of every American and everyone around us. I'll be damned if I'll give this jerk a break!

Thank the lord Jesus we are nearly done with this embarrassment!!!


RUS
 
RE: How much more money will we waste??

So RUS, how do feel about the Bush Administration?:)


202 can sure dream up a list of........stuff.
 
RE: How much more money will we waste??

Maybe he can't buy a legacy, but it isn't because he was too cheap to spend the money.
 
RE: How much more money will we waste??

Perhaps a tactical maneuver to keep a republican in the whitehouse?

He may be pandering to a particular racial class in this country. Pull some votes off the Magic Negro and put them with Hillary and John.

Would be kind of fun to watch if wasn't such a waste money.
 
RE: How much more money will we waste??

I don't think anyone and that includes me cares enough about Africa to change their vote over what happens there.

If we cared we would have taken a leading role a long time ago, probably a sad commentary on our values but that's the way it is. this has more to do with world opinion that matters more than ever as we need to borrow more money from them and need their support for our foriegn policy in the middle east and elswhere. world politics aren't that much different than domestic politics.
 
RE: How much more money will we waste??

I think that first post was dudes way of giving Bushie a compliment.

"One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
 

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