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greenhornhunter
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which would be better for elk? what distances would you be limted too with these calibers?
I'm guessing most will tell you neither. They gun guys I know and trust said I would be OK with it so I didn't hesitate.
I bought a Kimber Montana 7-08 last year. Shot like crap then my buddy told me to get rid of the $69. scope ....
I bought the Nikon, around $150 with the BDC reticle. I forget which Nosler bullet, ballistic tip or partition.
I'm not a gun guy so I just did what they told me to do.
I bought it specifically as an Elk/Deer rifle for my daughter. No Elk yet but one nice Buck this year for me using it. 250 yard uphill shot dropped him in his tracks.
I bought a Kimber Montana 7-08 last year. Shot like crap then my buddy told me to get rid of the $69. scope ....
I bought the Nikon, around $150 with the BDC reticle. I forget which Nosler bullet, ballistic tip or partition.
I'm not a gun guy so I just did what they told me to do.
I bought it specifically as an Elk/Deer rifle for my daughter. No Elk yet but one nice Buck this year for me using it. 250 yard uphill shot dropped him in his tracks.
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stinkystomper
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I vote 270!
bbright2
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I recently asked about this on another forum. Thought the
the feedback might apply to you as well.
www.forums.kifaru.net/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=169559&page=1#Post169559
the feedback might apply to you as well.
www.forums.kifaru.net/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=169559&page=1#Post169559
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lv2bugle
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I bought a 7mm-08 specifically for combo deer elk hunts for my daughter and son. We have shot plenty of elk with a 270 also.The 7mm-08 has 4 foot Lbs less kick with slightly heavier weight bullets. Thats why I bought the 7mm-08 caliber,for the kids.Roughly 1/4 to 1/3 less kick than 270. Just use a premium bullet like the tsx, partition, bearclaw, accubond etc... As for range I killed a cow at 328 yards with 1 shot from my 270 several years ago.
I have a 270 and love it for elk and deer. I'm not a big guy and the recoil doesnt bother me at all. My dad bought if for me when I was 14 and you couldnt pry it from my cold dead hands. cheap to shoot and does an amazing job IMO. I shoot the winchester power points and they have never let me down and the big kicker is 270 bullets are still 15 bucks a box.
P.s. shoot 130 grain bullets out of it for deer and elk. shoot flatter and faster with plenty of knockdown.
P.s. shoot 130 grain bullets out of it for deer and elk. shoot flatter and faster with plenty of knockdown.
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-24-08 AT 05:55PM (MST)[p]I'd say they are equal overall, but
7mm-08 can shoot heavier bullets.
.270 is much flatter shooting, so would make a better deer/antelope cartridge.
Both are ok for elk up to 300 and even 400 yards in the right hands. Use 1500 ft pds of energy as your guideline for the distance for your chosen load.
Both are great for kids and both kill deer and elk just fine. Ignore everyone who says you need more for elk, but.......make sure who everyone uses it shoots a bunch and knows how to shoot in the field and don't let them shoot at a distance they havn't clearly proven they can shoot in the field.
Have fun!!!
7mm-08 can shoot heavier bullets.
.270 is much flatter shooting, so would make a better deer/antelope cartridge.
Both are ok for elk up to 300 and even 400 yards in the right hands. Use 1500 ft pds of energy as your guideline for the distance for your chosen load.
Both are great for kids and both kill deer and elk just fine. Ignore everyone who says you need more for elk, but.......make sure who everyone uses it shoots a bunch and knows how to shoot in the field and don't let them shoot at a distance they havn't clearly proven they can shoot in the field.
Have fun!!!
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-24-08 AT 07:59PM (MST)[p]Both will do the job just fine. I have to throw my 2 cents in though about the 270 Win being a "kids gun". Usually what defines a kids gun is weight and recoil. Weight is usually thrown out because all guns in that category weigh about the same (adding up action, barrel, stock, etc).
Most people forget that the 270 Win actually kicks like some of the larger guns: http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm No, it's not a magnum, but still the 270 Win kicks alot more than the 7mm-08 yet they perform very similiar.
I have two kids that hunt, ages 13/14 and my wife hunts too. We own 7mm-08's and a 270 WSM for them. My 14 yr killed a 6 pt bull elk this year with the 7mm-08 and my 13 yr old hunted elk with a 270 WSM (no shots).
IMO if you can handle the recoil of the 270 Win... upgrade to the 270WSM and gain back the velocity and energy.
ODDNUT1
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Most people forget that the 270 Win actually kicks like some of the larger guns: http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm No, it's not a magnum, but still the 270 Win kicks alot more than the 7mm-08 yet they perform very similiar.
I have two kids that hunt, ages 13/14 and my wife hunts too. We own 7mm-08's and a 270 WSM for them. My 14 yr killed a 6 pt bull elk this year with the 7mm-08 and my 13 yr old hunted elk with a 270 WSM (no shots).
IMO if you can handle the recoil of the 270 Win... upgrade to the 270WSM and gain back the velocity and energy.
ODDNUT1
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NickJ1980
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I'm a big fan of the 7mm-08 Rem. now, but I have to admit I was hesitant at first.
With a properly fitting rifle that has been set up with a good recoil pad actually desiged to reduce recoil (I like the Sims) it is an absolute pleasure to shoot. My wife is recoil sensitive, but she doesn't flinch with this one at all.
I shot a doe muley with it, and she shot a 6 point bull at 309 yards and both were one shot kills. The bull dropped in his tracks. 140gr Partitions.
With a properly fitting rifle that has been set up with a good recoil pad actually desiged to reduce recoil (I like the Sims) it is an absolute pleasure to shoot. My wife is recoil sensitive, but she doesn't flinch with this one at all.
I shot a doe muley with it, and she shot a 6 point bull at 309 yards and both were one shot kills. The bull dropped in his tracks. 140gr Partitions.
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SMELLYBUCK
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Justr,
I have some friendly advice. You might want to study up on your 130 grn suggestion. You could find hundreds of people on this website alone (including myself) who have make double-lung broadside shots whith light bullets and tagged an elk; however, light and fast doesn't always cut it when it comes to the front shoulders. It's more important to have a bullet that holds together and can clear through the heavy bone, hide, and meat and have mass left to hit vitals. If you opt. for the light loads you have to think more like an archery hunter, limit your shot placement, and hope you are right on. If your bullet veers into the shoulder it could make for a long day of useless bloodtrailing.
smelly
I have some friendly advice. You might want to study up on your 130 grn suggestion. You could find hundreds of people on this website alone (including myself) who have make double-lung broadside shots whith light bullets and tagged an elk; however, light and fast doesn't always cut it when it comes to the front shoulders. It's more important to have a bullet that holds together and can clear through the heavy bone, hide, and meat and have mass left to hit vitals. If you opt. for the light loads you have to think more like an archery hunter, limit your shot placement, and hope you are right on. If your bullet veers into the shoulder it could make for a long day of useless bloodtrailing.
smelly
LAST EDITED ON Nov-25-08 AT 04:15PM (MST)[p]I have had the best luck with them all around. I have killed 6 bulls and let a friend borrow it for 3 cows and they have all piled up with none of them being any closer than 200 and one 6 point at 470 with my rangefinder. That is what i have found works for me so I stick with it is all. I was just sharing what works for me and people around me. In my family and close friends that shoot the .270 all feel the same and I would feel comfortable saying with all of us upwards of 60 elk have fallen to them and I couldnt even count the deer.
I have watched both deer and elk fall with the 7mm-08 too. I think they are close enough it falls on price of bullets and the 270 is cheaper to shoot.
my 2 cents.
I have watched both deer and elk fall with the 7mm-08 too. I think they are close enough it falls on price of bullets and the 270 is cheaper to shoot.
my 2 cents.
