I would stay away from the early hunt on the manti. I hunt the muzz deer hunt, and manti is covered with atv riders, leaf viewers, and also the sheep and cows are starting to come off. I sent my teeth in and will let you know but I would be shocked if my bull was older than 5yrs. Again, if you want to see a lot of elk, the manti is great. We saw hundreds of elk, a dozen or better 4-5points, but the herd bulls were few and far between. This area has been seriously overtagged in the draw, let alone the tags given out for banquets and auctions. The biggest bull I have seen in the last 3 years was a 7 point, not huge, the rumor was their was a near 400 bull running in the burn of six mile, but I never saw it, or talked to anyone who had since the summer, so he might of been a rumor. I love this unit, grew up hunting it, so this isn't bad mouthing the manti, and would be happy to share any info i have with you guys, but 13 points puts you in the contention for some better units. I have had family draw the oak creeks the last few years and kill really big bulls, both of them had less than 11 points. I think you have to figure that if you started drawing points at 14, you will most likely draw only 2 tags in your lifetime. Decide what you want out of the experience. I had the connection to the unit so "trophy" bulls weren't as important to me as hunting the unit was. If you want a mid 300 bull, go somewhere else. Let me know if I can help.