Non Res With 0 Points Needs 400+

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NeverStopHuntin

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Hi all. I need some tips on which elk unit to apply for.

A little background on me. I have little to no experience with elk or hunting for that matter but i am intrigued by the thought of it. Not really in good shape and i don't plan on getting in too deep but i have a BIG A$$ fourwheeler that will take me anywhere i need to go.

I can shoot better then most anyone. A 1000+ yard rifle shot, a 400+ muzzle shot and a 180+ archery shot is nothing for me and i wouldn't even think twice before dropping the hammer. In fact this year alone i dropped my first cow elk in montana at 987 yards! The Montana division of wildlife currently has the carcass but i'm hoping i can get it back soon as it has earned a place of honor on my wall.

What i want is a 400 plus bull and nothing else will do. I'm hoping that some of you guys can tell me which unit to apply for?

I don't have any points but i have heard that every unit in utah has multiple 400 bulls so i figure that drawing a tag in a lesser unit shouldn't be a problem

Thanks in advance
 
with all your amazing skills don't even put in for the LE hunts just go buy a general season any bull tag and go hunt the pine valley unit. the dwr is doing such a great job rebuilding the herd down there rumor has it they almost have 40 elk on the unit so im sure the herd bull is at least 400". oh and good luck.
 
In case you don't believe my credentials i'll post a few pics of my recent trophies. I don't like to brag but even hunt_rez would shoot these monsters.

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You have got to be kidding me!? Oh yeah, I see about dozen 400 inch bulls every year. Damn things keep getting my way everywhere I go it seems. I'm thinking about shooting some of them just to get there numbers down.
 
>You have got to be kidding
>me!? Oh yeah, I see
>about dozen 400 inch bulls
>every year. Damn things
>keep getting my way everywhere
>I go it seems.
>I'm thinking about shooting some
>of them just to get
>there numbers down.


SHEDSTALKER- I would appreciate the info on what unit you seen a dozen 400 bulls. That sounds like a good one for me to apply for!! I'm not asking for much. Like a world record or anything. I just want a little 400 bull. Is that too much to ask?
 
Neverstophunting!!! Havent you heard that killing only trophy animals could mean the end of that species.

You should consider a spike only hunt to ensure that elk have a long and happy future.

Is that ethical?
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-26-09 AT 03:23PM (MST)[p]NSH,
I'm going to give you a little inside information. You sound like you qualify for this highly confidential information. You should apply for an Oak Creek archery elk tag!!!! Now I know that shooting a 400 inch bull with your bow on this unit is like shooting fish in a barrel, but with your qualifications, you should be able to kill a 500"+ bull with no problem. Let me know how it goes.
 
Thanks legacy. I'm hoping its a flat unit because if i can't get my wheeler there then i'm not going!
 
>Thanks legacy. I'm hoping its a
>flat unit because if i
>can't get my wheeler there
>then i'm not going!

It's flatter than a pancake! LOL!
 
NSH, I've got to hand it to ya... This thread has just brightened my day! I've had quite a good laugh over it thus far lol :)
 
I'm thinking a Dangerous Game package in South Africa or Namibia with my children's Mother might be pretty exciting.
Just bring back the mounts.
 
Wow Neverstop maybe we could get you to do a seminar at the Expo in Feb or even a booth so we can all learn from your MAD Skills!
Bow staff skills...shooting skills... full of S%!& skills...
 
I'm in the same boat as you NeverStopHuntin only I have a few more points, same skills though. I would be willing to trade info on a 100 pound turkey hunt or I have some 20 pound crappie in my swimming pool if anyone wants to trade info.
 
I'm with SS on this one... I have the same problem, everywhere i go, i have these HUGE 400" bulls in my face. I would take one, but the problem is that a 400" bull is nothing special.. im holding out for mine to hit the magical 500" mark!! Good luck getting your bull, judging by the sounds of it, you can sit on your wheeler in the parking lot and stick him!
 
Yep That Oak Creek Unit is the best way to go i went there and saw 2 bulls that are probably over 470 out in the flats, there a bull that was bigger that already shed both sides, i didnt personally see him shed or the bull for that matter but he was huge!!!!. i also saw a great big beaver almost as big as that goose. NeverStopHuntin i think that those trophies you took are amazing how far was the llama.
 
I'm not sure what the llama is you are talking about but the majestic cow elk i killed this year in montana was a whopping 987 yards!! That thing never seen it coming

I'm hoping that the montana division of wildlife will return the cape soon so i can get it mounted.
 
RE: Non Res With 0 Points Needs 400

Excellent work on that majestic cow elk! I harvested a similar one on the Wasatch Front (just outside of Riverdale) this year. Here's a photo my guide (my cousin Sean) took just before I arrowed him.

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Double lunged him, but he still ran into some pen. Was a wicked drag back to the curb, let me tell ya. There's nothing like a DIY hunt!

When you get the cape back from those commies in Montana, I'd recommend a wall mount. My taxidermist (Sean's little brother) did mine and I love it. I think it really represents the wild nature this majestic animal.

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I think it turned out rather well, don't you?
 
Thankfully you are likely not interested in hunting Wyoming. Our bulls typically max out at around 350-370, occasionally higher for those who try, or care for that matter.
However, we get to hunt every year, in the wilderness, all by ourselves, and we usually measure the success of our hunt in miles not inches.
Good luck in Utah, hope you find Scorpion, Catipilar, or Tarantulla bull, I CAN'T wait to read about him.
 
Neverstop really has GREAT shooting skills. I (white camo) guided him to that Long tailed Vanilla Bruin. Man was it fierce.
 
Holy crap i cant stop laughing this whole thread is hilarious especially the last guy who took it serious
 
>Holy crap i cant stop laughing
>this whole thread is hilarious
>especially the last guy who
>took it serious

+1
 
Hey NeverStopHuntin,

Have you considered a guide hunt? I know of a bull soon to be released ---- oops glassed on the Oak Creek area. I've been told he for sure will take the new world record per our last horn shipment to China oops ? glassing measurements and better yet will taste more like beef or maybe Canadian beacon, don't worry they haven't linked CWD to mad cow yet. Your hunt cost can be deducted from your taxes, so for just a little cash 300,000, plus you get a kick ass dinner and can meet the Utah DWR President and B&C team (you will need to buy them a drink or two) you get the new world record. You can shoot the bull in July and if you miss you can try again in Jan because my 500 friends will just block a few roads and protect ?your? bull from the all the beer drinking, road hunting, trash throwing public hunters. Mr. big will also be under view from our eye in the sky.

Now my Outfitter fee is very reasonable at only 100,000 plus a nighter with your wife, or daughter, or both if they are not very hot. Well, I can be talked down if ESPN can televise the live kill and I get my face on a box of Coco Puffs. Again not to worry if you miss, we will just go back to the truck and get more ammo and tell everyone you killed it at 1000 yards with one shot ? your gun is custom correct? God I love to tape them out --- still kick?in.

You should try the draw first to save costs ? F%#k that money talks.
 
Hey elknut-

I am very very morally opposed to the use of guides . . .

But if over the next several months we became very good friends and at the end of the hunt i give my new friends a large cash gift then i don't see a problem with that

I really don't have the time or desire to befriend all of your 500 "friends" but if i'm friends with you and your friends with them then we are all friends by proxy.

When you arrange the dinner with the president of the DWR and B&C i would appreciate it if you would also invite the leaders of the 3 main "conservation" groups. Because when things get ugly i know these guys will support a high bidder regardless of ethics and means taken to harvest such a bull. ;-)

I noticed you mentioned an "eye in the sky" . . . Now i have the best fourwheeler that money can buy but after riding it for too long my butt gets a little tired. If you can arrange for me to ride in and possibly shoot out of the helicopter that would be great!

Looking forward to a great hunt

Your friend ;-)
 
>Holy crap i cant stop laughing
>this whole thread is hilarious
>especially the last guy who
>took it serious


Just havin' fun, genius.
 
RE: Non Res With 0 Points Needs 400

NeverStopHuntin, I think we are forgetting one thing here ...
"TECHNOLOGY"

For the sake of your a#~ (and only your a#~),
1) Sell your ATV
2) Go out and buy the best leather recliner you can find
3) Purchase a good laptop
4) Let all of your "friends", be friends ;). Once they have tied down (opps I mean found) your new record book Elk they will call you

THEN, you can then logon to the Internet and take your shot while in the comfort of your own home, in your new recliner, next to the fireplace all while sipping on a hot cup of coco.

As a bonus, you can charge those of us, not fortunate enough to have "friends" such as you, a fee to watch your ethical harvest, live on the Internet.




ps... I'm available if you need an accountant

- Rich
 

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