Colorado Wolf Sightings Revisited

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So, considering the usual excitement wolf postings cause around here I thouht I would share some of my family and friend's wolf sightings over the years in NorthWestern, Colorado. Despite the fact that I now live in NM, I was born and raised on a ranch in Routt County, Colorado, the fifth generation of my family to live in the Yampa Valley. I don't know about you guys but it seems to me from my family's experience that wolves have been dipping down into Colorado for quite some time now, in fact, long before the F&G admits to or knows of...and no, I'm not some green-behind the ears, tree and spotted owl hugging hippy. Just curious to see if there are any other stories out there from recent times or year's past. Let's just say the "dog" is out of the bag in Colorado so if you've got some time, here's my stories... I'm locked in my office for the day and got a little bored, sorry.

An individual in my hometown area of Yampa, Colorado photographed the collared female that hit on I-70 running with two males outside of Yampa 3 days before she was hit (over 40 miles N of where she was killed). And, my family and several family friends from the same area watched a pack of 5 dogs on Gore Pass between Kremling and Yampa for an entire summer two years ago. Called the F&G but we were told that they were already "aware" of them...seems one they didn't want anyone "harassing" them.

In fact, in the early and late eighties and again in the early nineties a couple of old ranching familys in our area had a bit of a problem with a certain pack of "dogs" killing calves and yearling stock. I saw these "dogs" a couple of times as a young kid one summer and fall (two of them in fact feeding on a calf carcass and one right before it was buried in garbage pit -and this was well over 20 years ago and no, my family and me sure as hell didn't kill it, but it did eat some poison way back when such things were legal for use on coyotes). Having seen my share of them over the years in Western Alaska, I sure as heck know that they weren't huskies... My uncle who outfitted in the Silver Creak Wilderness actually photographed a dark phase wolf in the Silver Creek Wilderness in the late eighties but was told by a biologist that it was most likely someone's lost dog...funny, considering he watched it and two others put a stalk on a herd of elk during an archery hunt. My grandfather and a few of the old boys (the third generation to live on and work these ranches) weren't surprised and told us it had been going on off-and-on since they could remember. As they explained it, they believed that every 10 or 15 years a pack would move into the neighborhood, coming down from Wyoming, and South through the Zirkel and Silver Creek Wilderness areas, generally spending a season or two in the area before disapearing. Another local rumor was that someone was secretly attempting to reintroduce them into the area but I don't know how much credence I put behind that story.

Anyway, sightings of these "dogs" were pretty much kept quiet by the few families that dealt with them as they were infrequent and in remote areas where the familys didn't want to call attention to themselves. Ironically, it was the fear of having biologists come in and micro-manage a rogue pack of wolves that ultimately kept this wandering group from ever being "discovered," i.e., reporting lost stock to the F&G as wolf kills and dealing with repurcussions of having an official pack of wolves in the area. Besides, the mentality was that it was easier to deal with these dogs and let them pass than it was to bring attention to one's self and operation.

Oh yeah, a couple of seasons ago we dropped a raghorn bull elk on the side of a steep slope in a remote canyon in the North end of the Zirkel Wilderness right at last night one evening. We gutted him, and opened him up to cool for the night. The next morning we came back to bone out and pack the elk out. But, when we got to the kill site there was nothing but a gut pile and bear track. Didn't take us long to see the drag marks, and after cautiously climbing and pulling ourselves a good 75 yards up the steep slope and through the thick scrub oak was our bull; half buried in leaves and dirt. I've seen blackies get into elk carcasses a couple of times, but from my experience they've never moved an entire elk carcass, much less that far or uphill. And, we measured the bear tracks and the back pads were well over 6" wide. That's one heck of a big and determined blackie if you ask me...(and no, I've never seen sasquatch)

If anybody else has got some good ones I'd love to hear them. And please, try to keep the sasquatch and yeti stories to a minimum. -Cody
 
I worked with a gentleman several years ago that was employeed by the BLM is southcentral Colorado and he and family seen a wolf chasing a calf elk one summer. He reported it to the CDOW and they said it was probably a lost dog. The BLM employee is honest guy and knows what a wolf looks like.

Two falls ago I seen a large fresh canine track in the La Garita Wilderness. The track was about 2.5 miles from the nearest ranch and those ranchers keep their dogs penned up during hunting season. It could have been a coyote, but it would have been a large coyote. And it was in a location I doubt many dogs would go. However, I'm no expert on wolf tracks.
 
Three summers ago my Wife and were camped in Big Red Park on the edge of the Zirkle Wilderness when we heard what we belived to be wolves howling at night. They sure weren't coyotes.

Bean
 
BeanMan, I heard the same thing while camping in the South San Juan Wilderness at 10,500' in 1999. A singe wolf howl, about 400 yards up the hill behind camp at 9:30pm. About 45 minutes later, the same howl, from about 1/2 mile up the canyon. It wasn't a coyote.
 
Just this past fall (Oct 2008) I saw what I believe were wolf tracks, just a couple miles west of Red Feather Lakes, up at about 10,600 ft. I later spoke with a rancher and a DOW biologist in the area who both confirmed that there had been probable wolf sightings in the same area I saw the tracks.
 
north west colorado has a lot of rugged country, it wouldnt suprise me if their are wolves in the flattops and farther north.
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-03-09 AT 09:30AM (MST)[p]>I worked with a gentleman several
>years ago that was employeed
>by the BLM is southcentral
>Colorado and he and family
>seen a wolf chasing a
>calf elk one summer. He
>reported it to the CDOW
>and they said it was
>probably a lost dog. The
>BLM employee is honest guy
>and knows what a wolf
>looks like.
>
>Two falls ago I seen a
>large fresh canine track in
>the La Garita Wilderness. The
>track was about 2.5 miles
>from the nearest ranch and
>those ranchers keep their dogs
>penned up during hunting season.
>It could have been a
>coyote, but it would have
>been a large coyote. And
>it was in a location
>I doubt many dogs would
>go. However, I'm no expert
>on wolf tracks.



I have hunted north of the wilderness area for almost 40 years. Been seeing wolves and wolf tracks since the mid 80's. Seen wolves wolf kill signs from Coolbroth canyon north to HWY 114. Had one walk through my camp 4 years ago. S - S - S.

In the late eighties I told one DOW officer near Saguache about wolves I had seen...he gave me the standard 'musta ben a dog' story. I then asked him if it was ok to kill wayward pets who harass either farm animals or wildlife. He had no answer.
 
If you've seen a wolf track, there is no way to mistake it for a coyote track

Even a pup wolf 6 months old is entirely different than an alpha coyote tipping the scales at 50lb

entirely different track characteristics...

my .02 worth anyways

LH
 
I hunted deer near saguache this year. And it was the biggest Coyote ever or it was a wolf. it was a big old boy
 
I was thinking it might have been a large domestic dog, but your right is wasn't a coyote. That is a big area in south central Colorado that doesn't see a lot of people off the main trails.

Leonard
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-09-09 AT 12:16PM (MST)[p]"In the late eighties I told one DOW officer near Saguache about wolves I had seen...he gave me the standard 'musta ben a dog' story. I then asked him if it was ok to kill wayward pets who harass either farm animals or wildlife. He had no answer. "

feddoc that is a great comment!! I love it!

Walden had a wolf a few years ago. It was taken (the video) by CDOW employees and was all over the news.
There are lots of wack people that want to introduce wolves.
It wouldnt suprise me if they let a few go in the wild. Sinapu is one group that stands out.
Here are a few websites:

http://www.rockywolf.org/

I think this is the link to the video of the wolf in Walden

http://wildlife.state.co.us/NR/rdon...-B4E9-500426E62610/0/ProbableWolfSighting.wmv

http://www.wildearthguardians.org/

I just hope they have a season on them!
jeff



Jeff
 
seen tracks all around a dead horse on the edge of RMNP COYOTE TRACKS WERE PRESENT TOO SO IT WAS EASY TO COMPARE AND MAN THEY ARE WAY BIGGER
 
I have a friend who was on a Ranching For Wildlife elk hunt one mile north of the CO/NM border in November. They heard wolves at night. It was denied by the ranch hands. This fellow has lived and hunted in CO for decades and knows the difference between a coyote and a wolf.

So, out of curiosity, I ran a google search with these keywords:

Ted Turner New Mexico Wolves

Try it. You'll be reading for awhile. It's a done deal folks. And if you want to know where this could be headed, try asking elk hunters and outfitters in Idaho how it's been working out for them...
 
JW, you're killing me! But yes, it's the truth.... The thing about NM though is that it seems we have a "problem" with certain individuals shooting all wolves on sight. In fact, we had a news clip this past weekend that was devoted to the high number of Mexican Gray Wolves in the Gila region which have been found shot in the past couple of years. Apparently it is has prevented the reintroduction program from reaching any of its wolf population "achievement" goals....frankly, I love my elk hunting down here just the way it is. I.e., not enough wolves to put a dent in the herd. Someone has obviously taken it upon themselves down in the Southern part of the state to do their own wolf management program and according to the local news, it's working just fine...
 
My buddies and I hunt in unit 62. In the 2007 season I was talking to some guys from Arkansas and they swore up and down they saw 3 wolfs running down a canyon. I said they were probably yotes but these guys hunted yotes and they said there was no way. They were too big. I ask the DOW about wolves and they said they were just big yotes. Who knows....
 
Well, if they were just big yotes there should be no problem shooting them right? I promise you that if I ever see a "Big Yote" in my home state of Nevada I am going to blast the hell out him, then call NDOW and say Woops I thought it was a big Yotes since there are no wolves here!!
 
I know of a retired racehorse veterinarian who found what he called was a breeding pair of wolves, this was on the Sangre De Christo side of the valley. In fact he said he chased the male on a horse and never could gain any ground on the animal. Every time he came up over a hill it was always out front on him. This was down lower in the valley, not to far from the dunes.

Who is to say that they weren't let loose.
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-03-09 AT 09:04AM (MST)[p]When I was in high school my dad and I were driving over La Veta pass in the winter. We were heading down the west side a few miles from the summit when I saw a big black dog jumping through knee deep snow about 100 yds off the highway. It looked like a Husky, only dark gray/black. At the time I thought, what the heck is a dog doing out here? There aren't any houses for miles. Now I think it's possible that it was a wolf. This would have been around 1979.
 
Thats what happened here in Montana.Hunters would report seeing wolves and the FWP would adamantly deny any wolves in the area. Don't shoot one though, because you are supposed to know the difference.Also Colorado , Oregon and Washington, now all have wolf plans.A minimum of 15 breeding pairs of wolves in each state.Bla bla bla...Thats EXACTLY what we were told in the early 1990's. Its not about wolves, They are a pawn to end your hunting.Also 2/3 of the money garnered from Hunting and fishing license fees in Montana goes to pay for WOLF PROJECTS!!! Hunters and fisherman in Montana are paying for Wolves depleting the deer and elk herds we have worked for generations to restore.A local pilot that flys around the Wolf biologists said they counted over 300 in only 1 part of region 1!!! That is more than double what were originally proposed for the entire state of Montana, in the early 90's.Local game check stations had the lowest harvest statistics in 13 years in region 1.There are 2 times as many hunters here than in 1990 also.
 

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