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Azhunter22

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Well, what do i say, i found out my Girlfriend of 6 yrs had been chaeting on me, well we argued and when i kicked her out i had her keys, so i threw them to her,she didnt catch them, well this was last month. Last thursday she filed a restraining order against me and i contested well because i did that I am not allowed to posses or by firearms for as long as the order is in place up to a year. Anybody got any suggestions what i should do
 
Just do whatever they say! Get a good lawyer and follow the rules, I guess.....Get those priveleges back ASAP!!!!!
 
Yeah it really sux, hit me at the way wrong time, I drew a 17A deer tag for Az and now im gonna have to take my bow, what a waste on that tag. I have consulted with a lawyer but they want way to much money which i dont readily have, but i am trying to sell my houise right now so if it sells then i will profit 100% cause it is paid off so. Im playing the waiting game right now, trying to reason with her is impossible plus we have child together and she is basically using him against me also. I hate the feeling of being stuck. Justin
 
Never get mad if your woman cheats.

Never draw out to hunt deer.

Never throw her keys to her or at her.

This is all hindsight, but could be valuable information going forward.;-)
 
Do exactly what the order says. Was it a protective order?? I would strongly suggest your dont break the order. no contact at all...and get an attorney

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Later, Brandon
 
I thing you have ten days to file a hearing request and explain your side. Hope that helps.
Ed
 
See what confuses me is that in the original order of protection there wasn't anything about having or possesing a firearm, the cops are the one that served me also, but once i contested it the judge said that it was law that if you contest and order and it wasn't lifted that you could not posses any firearms. So of course my ex is there and she is just eating this up because she knows that she can get under my skin that way. I won't break the order but i am allowed to call her and write her in the mail, pertaining to our son and matters around that. The stupid thing is she speculated that i hit her with her keys to the court and brought no prrof of injury. I thought there would be some statute of limitation on that because it was filed a month after the fact, the judge said that she has up to a year to file an order. Another thing is is she said when i did this that she feared for her life, lol dont you think if she was in fear of her life she would have called the cops then. Our juducial system needs some revamping in my personal opinion. I have never hit a female and when i throw her keys at her to tell her to get out i get this damn thing, I donbt even know anymore really.
 
If you end up having to get an attorney post in here. I have a couple friends here in the valley that have had to get them and they both used the same guy. He kicked their ex's butts before it was over. Both of them swear by this guy. If you need I will find out his name and number.
 
Get his number for me, hopefully he wil be cheaper than the last couple i have talked to. I would appreciate it. Justin
 
Get an attorney ASAP, they will know how to file an appeal and push the system along. You may still be able to save your hunting season if you act quickly. Don't wait and bite the bullet, you will need one anyway due to the upcoming child support and custody matters. I had to pay 250.00 an hour 12 years ago but have reaped the benefits since.
 
Get an lawyer and get your guns out of the house. Long story short a guy I know is now in federal prison and a convicted felon (no more guns or job) because he had a protective order against him, was living with his parents and had his guns in his parents house with him. The really sad part was that the city cops let him move the guns to his parents house because he was afraid his wife would pawn them.
 
Azhunter22, I had something very similar happen to me almost a year ago exactly. My wife had cheated on me, we were separated and filling for divorce. She called me to tell me to drop off my son?s stroller, which I had in my car at the time. When I went to the door, there was no answer so I left it sitting next to it. When I turned around my wife pulled up to my car so fast she nearly hit it, jumped out and proceeded to the drivers side were she opened the door, ripped out the rear view mirror, turned around, and hit me with it. I pushed her out of the way, and got into my car, locking the door. She then ran around to the passenger side and opened that door before it could be locked, hitting my female passenger friend, came across her, grabbed me and hit me. Before exiting she opened my glove box and threw everything in it out onto the sidewalk and into the street. She then sped off with my son in her truck. Thinking logically, I called the cops. Two female officers arrived, took note of my injuries and my statement. They then called my ex, and she came back. When she arrived, she was yelling names and kicking in her truck in front of the cops and my son. They took her statement, and then wrote us both a ticket. Domestic Violence is what I faced, for trying to protect myself and my son. If convicted then I could never own a firearm again. I got a lawyer (for $5,000.00) because I love my guns and hunting, and the case got dropped. That is why I hate ex-wives, cops, and the Domestic Violence Family Protection Act. This is a federal law, is that what you were charged with? If so, under this law she should have got a ticket also. I doubt she did because the law if sexist?.Anyways, if you need any help in any way feel free to email me at [email protected] anytime.
 
Many domestic violence laws are a joke. Even the cops will tell you that but they are paid to enforce them and uphold what is the law.
 
FVPA.............. youre screwed! Only thing I can suggest is plead it down if possible..... guilty if all the charges get dropped after you complete your anger mgt courses and counseling sessions and pay your fines etc etc.....

If not, you will never be able to posses a firearm again.

Mike
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Have you ever heard of the saying pay me now or pay me later? The punch line is paying later is always much more expensive and the effort to fix the problem much more involved. You need to seek legal advice the sooner the better. Yes it is expensive but if you wait you may put yourself in a much worse position. Good luck.
 
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH.....Love.

Pay for the lawyer. It will be a small amount to pay
to get your rights back and your ex from getting at you.

Chef
"I Love Animals...They're Delicious!"
 
1. As for the hunt... I don't believe "firearm" includes muzzle loader. Invest in a good one and enjoy the hunt. Some remarkable range on some of them.

2. As for getting the guns out of the house, have a friend or family member pick them up and put them where they will be safe. Sell them to your mom for $1.00 and then when your in her house, you are not in possession, because they are not yours. Obviously still can't handle or use them though.

3. Dish out the $60 for a phone call to a reputable lawyer to ensure that the above two will fly.

4. See above lawyer for a few hundred more and see if you can do anything to get the order lifted.

Good Luck!
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-24-05 AT 04:50PM (MST)[p]He isn't charged with anything, he just has a restraining order against him. I think sometimes our judges should check background and circumstances before ruling. The judge trusts him with his kid and that is by far priority one, everything else can be worked out.
 
See the cops were never called, so neither of us got tickets. She just went down to the court house and filed for a order of protection, a month after i threw the keys at her. I contested the original order of not being able to call, write,or contact through a third party, be within 100ft of residence or her. When we were in the hearing it was modified to me being able to contact by cell phone and mail, still got to be 100ft away and and "Notice of Brady disqualification" is what it is called, where i cannot posses or purchase a firearm or ammunition. I never posed a threat to her i was telling her to leave some Laws are so stupid. As for a lawyer i am trying to gather the money but i think it is gonna come down to me selling my house because thats really the only way.
 
Dont sell your house if this is a one year thing.... just move on and learn from the experience. You'll draw a tag again another year.

Mike
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You really do need an attorney, as others have said. The domestic violence laws are so ridiculous, probably even unconstitutional. Be sure to follow the no contact order, even if your ex tells you it's ok if you break it and she won't say anything. Don't trust her. The law will be on her side and they will believe her over you. As somebody else said, the laws are sexist. They can charge you with a crime without any evidence or witnesses. All they need is a statement from your ex. It's wrong but that's the way our laws work.
 
Selling my house was coming anyway i have lived there for over 9 years and it is an old house, and i need a better place for myself and my son, so im not selling for just that purpose but that is the only way to come up with some of the fees attorneys charge. See when i sell it will be 100% profit really cause i owe nothing on it it is paid off, so i will have some spare cash to use on a lawyer. I want a lawyer who is just down right ruthless cause she has not been the best mother to my son since we split. Really the lawyer is basically cause i want custody of him over her so i don't have to shovel hard earned money out to her for her own pleasure, and now to get this damn order away.
 
you might want to check about carrying your bow in some states both a muzz and bow are considered weapon's and not allowed, Colorado is one state and it also includes any state that has a compact with them and that includes most western states, hope I'm wrong.
 
I have always thought that when a husband or a boyfriend hurts or kills a girlfriend it tends to be a physical type of violence(strangles, stabs, etc.), but when the wife or girlfriend does it they usually shoot them or pay somebody to. I would watch my back for some sort of set up. Record any phone calls if possible, and save all text messages or e-mails. You need to ask the lawyer if the order is good for the state of az, the county, the city, or the country. Does the order state firearm or weapon, I would ask an attorney that also. During the general rifle season you can carry anything legal, I would check into what YOU are allowed to carry.
I thought the brady bill expired, am I wrong.
 
I got served with a restraining order last week so I feel your pain. Mine was for threatening my brother in law in CA and I had to either sell to a dealer or turn in to the police. Thankfully I only had one traceable pistol and he didnt know of any of my rifles so I only had to sell one.

I caved in and paid 5 grand to a lawyer who scared the crap out of the wimp and know he has to pay my lawyers fees and my time missed from work and the money I lost having to sell my pistol.

So I would recomend getting the best lawyer you can afford pronto.
 
YOU CAN NOT AFFORD TO NOT GET A LAWYER!!!!!

Yes, it will be expensive, but this could affect you not only now, but down the road as well. Pay whatever it takes to get help now, not later.

No, I am not a lawyer, but have had to hire one from time to time. Hated paying the price each time, but it has always been worth it. You need a lawyers help bad to get out of this one. Don't wait until the house sells. If you can't afford it now, tell the lawyer he can have a lein on the house until it sells. Bottom line is, do what it takes to get it resolved now.

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
 
Well, over the weekend i went deer hunting, My sons mom called and left me a message that she needed to talk to me about our son. Well come to find out she had found my password somehow and checked the other messages that were on my phone, she didn't seem to like that too much. When i did get a hold of her she asked if i could pick him up, i asked her why she said just because, well come to find out from what she told a family memeber is that she needs to get her life together, her Boyfriend has 2 kids and he dont have really anything to do with them and my son dosent listen to them, so she asked if i could keep him till "whenever" is what she said. Her mother in law told her not to give up on him but she don't listen and her BF told her that she needed to do what she wanted and well I have him now till "whenever" so hopefully i can go to court and get this straightened out real easy now with all of that stuff she said. Well see im gonna try to talk to my lawyer about it again this week. Justin
 
Using your kid against you is total BULL SHEET. It's not their fault. Maybe you can get custody & make her pay support.
 
By all means get the best attorney in the area you live in. You are at risk of never being able to draw a tag or buy a license in alot of states. Also if I remeber correctly you can lose your privledge to use a bow or muzzleloader as well as all type of firearms. It's all about power and control. Deal with her harshly and protect yourself. If you do not go into this with a take no prisoners attitude you will end up the worse for wear. Borrow the money on your house but get a professional involved.
 
> Well, over the
>weekend i went deer hunting,
>My sons mom called and
>left me a message that
>she needed to talk to
>me about our son. Well
>come to find out she
>had found my password somehow
>and checked the other messages
>that were on my phone,
>she didn't seem to like
>that too much. When i
>did get a hold of
>her she asked if i
>could pick him up, i
>asked her why she said
>just because, well come to
>find out from what she
>told a family memeber is
>that she needs to get
>her life together, her Boyfriend
>has 2 kids and he
>dont have really anything to
>do with them and my
>son dosent listen to them,
>so she asked if i
>could keep him till "whenever"
>is what she said. Her
>mother in law told her
>not to give up on
>him but she don't listen
>and her BF told her
>that she needed to do
>what she wanted and well
>I have him now till
>"whenever" so hopefully i can
>go to court and get
>this straightened out real easy
>now with all of that
>stuff she said. Well see
>im gonna try to talk
>to my lawyer about it
>again this week. Justin


Just do right by your kid man, she's obviously a flake and probably on drugs defiantly self centered, you should get a lawyer to put her on the defense, make her respect you again by showing her your in control of your own life and show the courts your together it'll help your case with custody of your kid, do it all for your kid she only cares for her self right now...
 
I agree get a lawyer right away but the second thing you should do is get your but to radio shack and buy a recorder and a cell phone adapter and record every conversation you have with her, In Arizona it is legal to record any converstation as long as 1 party of the conversation knows that it is being recorded, seenig how you are one of the two parties there you go!!! it will be the best $20-30 you could ever spend
 
Take your boy any time you can. It helps with custody battles when you can say that you are the one who has taken care of your kid for 22 of the last 30 days or whatever the actual numbers are.

As stated above get a laywer now, worry about payments later.

You can always file a restraining order on her too.
 
I have a little different take. No matter how you got into this, you need a quick, peaceful solution. Befor you go giving a bunch of your hard earned cash to an attorney, try this. Apologize to her profusely and convincingly. Do this in a letter and offer her some sort of peace offering, some kind of gift, preferrably cash so maybe your kids will benifit. THINK OF SOMETHING MAN, you get a lawyer and trying to reason later will be next to impossable. Dosnt really matter wrong or right , your hunting life is more important to you than this wowman is . You're first love is waiting (hunting)!
 
It is obvious that see you next Tuesday is the best way to describe her, there isn't a woman out there in their RIGHT mind that would want to get their life together without her son or daughter, any woman in their RIGHT mind would also want the father in the kids life no matter what, as long as he supported and took care of the kid and kept him in a safe environment, she would also not want to put their kid in a bad environment, if the new boyfriend already has two kids from two different women(guessing), what are their ages, how soon before he is three for three, and if the dude don't want his own kids how does he feel about yours, this girl is all about herself, get over her, get your son as much as possible( with a lawyers help), and move on. If you're hunting with your bow at least you're hunting, and you know that pisses her off.
 
sign of the times my friend! A lawer cost me 5 grand and I got them all back but had to regester all on the ban list!its sucks! And when the law gets a gun they tend to keep them!
thank Clinton he passed the law ALL DV CASES carrying firearm restrictions read it closly its say you are not to be near or around them also or around home that have firearms!one call to the sheirff and its back in the dark days!! RO's are the worst!
rm
 
So she has a restraining order against you because you threw some keys at her?! She's lucky that's all you did, friggin cheating b!tch.
She's the one that screwed it up........move on and hunt hard.
Good luck.

Lien2
 
>I have a little different take.
>No matter how you got
>into this, you need a
>quick, peaceful solution. Befor you
>go giving a bunch of
>your hard earned cash to
>an attorney, try this.
>Apologize to her profusely and
>convincingly. Do this in a
>letter and offer her
>some sort of peace offering,
> some kind of gift,
>preferrably cash so maybe your
>kids will benifit. THINK OF
>SOMETHING MAN, you get a
>lawyer and trying to reason
>later will be next to
>impossable. Dosnt really matter wrong
>or right , your hunting
>life is more important to
>you than this wowman is
>. You're first love is
>waiting (hunting)!

And that is the worst advice. If you show her ANY type of that crap she will eat you alive.
 
My brother a few years back held his ex wife by the arm during an argument as she tried to take their son to her friends house while she was heavily intoxicated. He freaked out and called the cops that she had their boy and was driving with him while drunk. Cops picked her up, got both sides of the story, then arrested him for domestic violence because he grabbed her arm. Nothing happened to her, not a DUI, child endangerment, anything. When he was arrested they asked the ex if he had any firearms and they promptly emptied his gun safe. He lost all of his firearms, about 4,000.00 to the DA. In order to have the charges dropped he had to agree to let the state keep his guns. Life ain't fair sometimes.
 
Trust me i would have sex with her best friend, she is freakin hot with some big ass fake ##### LOL but i don't really know how to get ahold of her. It would be well worth it though. I don't havent talked to her really in a while so things are looking better with the custody thing though being that she dosen't want our son now (choosing her bf over him . Later Justin
 

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