I took my son Blake out for his first deer hunt opening morning, was on the mountian about 2 1/2 miles in about 10 minutes before you could start to see. About 25 minutes of waiting and watching and here came 7 bucks. One was an excellant 4x4, around the 28 inch mark I would guess and very tall. Unfortunatly Blake couldn't pick him up in the scope. when he finally did they were over 400 yards away, so we opted to go after them. We never saw them again, but saw 19 bucks total. It was a very hard lesson for me to let the 3 4x4's we saw go why I was trying to get him a shot at one. He only saw the 1st one, never could see the others. It was a very good hunt and a good experience for us both. We were hunting a 4 point or bigger unit or he would have got the biggest 3 point I have ever seen, about 70 yards broadside and looking at us for several minutes. We went out again tonight to a different unit, but didn't see anything, but found a very nice shed.