wolves in montana

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tufcntry

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went out last weekend and saw two wolves saturday and one trie to kill my dog sunday. the elk are tree'd up in the middle of july and there are very few calves. the wolf report is 100% correct, the elk behavior has changed for the worst. if you don't have wolves in your state fight to keep them out. the worst part about it is they are not scared of anything. my wife and dog are wolf bait last year we went up for an evening hunt just above town, wolves came in on my daughter my dog got between the wolves and my daughter giving my wife enough time to grab my daughter and get in the truck the wolves proceeded to circle the truck and even lay down next to it. my wife said i showed just minutes before the wolves left. needless to say it is not safe to let kids and dogs run around in the woods anymore. sunday was similar a big black wolf came with in 20 feet of the truck trying to get my dog. these are just my experiences there are many bad ones around town i hope these dirty suckers get nailed this year.
 
i took a picture of two gray wolves saturday but the pics didn't turn out well, and on sunday i had to get my dog in the trucks and then i was after my gun. but i'm sure i'll get a pic before the season is over
 
it was in the dillon area, but everything south of south of bozeman is getting bad
 
next time u go hiking bring them a snack , lets say some cheep ground meat with a little antifreeze mixed in it
 
LAST EDITED ON Jul-17-09 AT 09:28PM (MST)[p]tufcntry, Them Dillon wolves must be bold. They don't lay down beside pickups over here in the Bitteroot. mtmuley
 
I agree with mtmuley, I feel cheated that we got the weaker strain up here, the kind that acts like normal wildlife and tries to stay away from people as much as possible.
Come to think of it, I assumed the pack I watched this spring just south of Dillon was the same way.... I guess I had no idea of the danger I was in.
 
tell that to my wife boys, she doesn't even like to go out in the mountains anymore i know when you see em from the freeway they look cool, and i am not to worried about them killin me, but these wolves were not afraid, most of them turn and burn when you see them but some don't. get out there a little more and you'll see that. hopefully hutnng them will help but i doubt it they just need to make them a predator.
 
I know where you are coming from. My friend and I were hunting for bear in the Snowcrest Range south of Dillon and had a couple wolves stalk us. We talked real loud and waved our arms but they still just kept getting closer. We then went over the hill and hoped that if we got out of sight that the wolves would lose interest. They appeared again a few minutes later and when they were about 60 yards I fired my rifle and that did scare them off. (I know the 3 S rule but it's not worth it)
My wife will not go out by herself or with the baby anymore without a gun. I have also noticed a drop in calf elk numbers this year.
 
Couple wolves seen this weekend about 2 miles east of Badger Pass out of Dillon eating an antelope. 1 was black and the other was gray.
 
If I felt treatened for me, wife, child, dog or whatever by wolves I call that self defense. These things are killers. There will be some who deny it, even on this site. I have a friend, first name Vic, who had 30 cow/calves killed and 4 horses last year in unit 69 in Idaho. The feds did go up and killed 5 of the wolves. Last week some guys I know were running their dogs, wolves killed one and tore up two of the dogs.
I know if I were a state game warden I would certainly look the other way on wolves being killed, after all it is starting to look like it may mean the end of their jobs. No game to hunt, no need or funding for those kind of jobs.
 
poision

gut shot with small caliber so it runs off and dies a painful death

parvo if you actually could introduce it.

above all SSS!!!!
 
sounds like you guys are having the problem we are having here in Minnesota with the coyotes. The DNR wanted to control the whitetail deer so they brought in some coyotes. Well now the number of coyotes is so high that they are picking off pets. The people that live in the city are all getting upset and having news stories done about it. So now to control the coyotes they have now releases wolves.
 
I would really like to see some pictures too, especially of a pack of wolves circling your truck at 20', heck even just one wolf.

Ishootarum300, I'm originally from MN, and I wasn't aware that the state ever "released" coyotes. I understand it as when the wolves were mostly taken out years ago, the coyote population exploded due to them being one of the top 2 predators (bear being the other). They are also very much like whitetails and are able to adapt to humans so they just naturally moved into the suburbs.
I'm also sure they never "released" wolves in MN cause they were never gone! there has always been wolves in the Arrowhead region and with the federal protection have constantly been moving west and south.

Mntman

"Hunting is where you prove yourself"
 
Coyotes adapt to free food (cats,Dogs,Sheep,)They just love living around cities.
+1 on Mntman they don't have to release coyotes or wolves they have plenty to go around.


"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
geez sounds like the real problem is with the guys that arent shootin the bast*rds i always carry a shovel and a couple guns in my truck not for those purposes! but if i was having those issues that are stated on here, that might be the purpose and im pretty good at keepin secrets like that! sometimes ya gotta take things in to your own hands! if they are badazz enough to run down a freakin antelope...and are threatening humans in those manners not sure i would put up with it!
 
The consequences if you get caught can be very bad according to the officials I have talked to. Supposedly they are experimenting with locator implants injected under the skin and it can be hard to see the radio collars under all of that thick fur. So its not as simple as the 3 S's. It would be worth researching the people who have been prosecuted for killing a wolf for whatever reason.
It seems the best option would be if the FWP can acually get the hunting season pushed through.
 
bingo hatrick! besides there not gonna radio collar them thats prob just to scare ya from shootin them plus unless they see you do it prove it!
 
I say F!!! those damn things , the other night I was shredding levey's at 11:00 with the lights on the tractor and had 4 yotey's come out and start loooking for something ! At first Ithought they would run off ,but they did'nt so I got the 45 out and started give the ##### !! Got 1 and the rest were gone in the corn !! So F!!! those damn things !
 
with what we are seeing for game numbers, I think the season on wolves will be too little too late. Further more, I think that the season is to passify our eagerness to take care of business. There will be law suites filled left and right by the wolf lovers the weeks leading up to the opener. So if I were to lay a dog down, my wife would not even know, nor my hunting partner. and what ever you do, do not collect souveniers. One shot, pick up the brass, don't go look, and don't brag.
 
Front page article in the Montana Standard on August 28/09. 120 sheep killed in one attack at the base of the Snowcrest Range south of Dillon. Kills were confirmed by FWP. Attack happened last week.
 
WOW, Guys read the article Monte referred to.

I used to hunt two to three states a year generally in the northern rockies during which time I feel I was rather generous with my spending money (tips, gas, gifts for wife & daughter, food, beer, etc.) all promoting the local economies. With all the problems with wolves, I have pretty much directed my hunts away form there. I know the first response is "Hey great N/Res hunt elsewhere", but its gotta be really hurting those fall recreation economies of your states. I feel for you guys....and am just as pi--ed about the wolves as all of you.

Its truly sad that hunting organizations (and their members) have worked so hard to help the game herds only for them to become food for the wolf lovers pets, followed by livestock, our pets and when does it become our children? It'll happen........at a time when we aren't around with a gun, or around without a gun.

I didnt like the wolf program at the start, don't like it now, and am terrified as to where its going.

Be careful all,

nocal
 
There is a post in the General forum about the wolf hunting season being upheld. Amazing.
 
Our only hope is to get the mange or parvo into the packs. I don't think we can shoot enough of them.
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-11-09 AT 10:56AM (MST)[p] I would agree. The first year of hunting will be the most productive. Wolves are incredibly smart, so once the shooting starts, they will figure things out pretty quick.
An old timer told me the other day that his grandad told him that the old cowboys didn't pack guns for outlaws, it was mainly for wolves. The wolves will either get to a point where disease will manage the population or the ranchers and sportsmen will just kill them out of neccessity to protect their stock and way of life.
What predator is there to manage wolf population other than man? Wolves and humans compete for the same things. We cannot co-exist. It may get to a point where people have to choose between keeping the law or protecting their right to make a living. Which do you think that people will choose?
 
One wolf taken in Montana so far. Backcountry area. Saw it on MT FWP website.
 

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