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Thought this was a good opinion. Didn't know about the pending world record buck being taken on a landowner tag.

All I ever needed to know about the current state of Colorado big-game hunting affairs I learned on eBay.

That's where one discovers the opportunity to purchase landowner vouchers that allow big spenders to bypass the normal waiting period, jumping to the head of the line for the state's most prized deer and elk licenses.

Or, if you prefer, simply Google any of several key words and watch the websites offering vouchers pop up on the screen. Or catch the classifieds in the various hunting journals. Maybe even just put your ear to the ground.

Colorado deer and elk hunting has become big business, not just for ranchers, but an entire lineup of businesses living off the animals. You'll find thousands of opportunities to trash the basic principles of fairness in license acquisition. Don't want to wait 10 years for a shot at a trophy buck or bull? Just peel off a few very large bills Colorado offers as rancher welfare - often to wealthy absentee owners who need money like France needs rioters.

Colorado deer and elk hunting also has become big business for a growing lineup of brokers and outfitters who have made what once was sport a commodities market.

Take the recent example of Utah resident Jed Lowe, who in late August, through an admirable display of archery skills, bagged what probably ranks as the largest Colorado mule deer rack taken in velvet.

Thing is, Lowe acquired his tag through a Utah broker who bought and resold vouchers in western Colorado. Lowe leap-frogged Colorado hunters to get the tag, shot one of the state's all-time trophies and didn't even have to surrender any preference points.

Such a deal. Moreover, he didn't even hunt on the property of the landowner who was given the voucher, trekking instead deep into the national forest for an animal he had located on an earlier scouting expedition.

Such examples are at the heart of a flaming debate over a law approved by a cowboy-dominated legislature a quarter-century ago.

It awards landowners 15 percent of limited licenses off the top before ordinary sportsmen get an opportunity to draw.

As if to demonstrate that greed has no limits, ranchers now clamor for more. With escalating prices, they want an even bigger slice of the pie. Although the lineup on a special license allocation committee was stacked in their favor, commercial interests were rebuffed in their latest grab for tags.

Ranchers constantly trumpet their stewardship of wildlife. Listening to the propaganda put forth by the Colorado Cattleman's Association, you would think not a single deer or elk still would be alive but for the heroic efforts of landowners.

It's true many members of the livestock community harbor genuine affection for game animals. But for most, they have evolved into a $5,000 bill on four legs. Stories abound about ranchers actively hazing game or blocking their movement to keep prize animals out of the hands of the average hunter.

Stockmen carp about wildlife living at their expense. This ignores the overwhelming fact that the animals were there long before the human ancestors or predecessors arrived. Time was, dealing with wildlife and other natural hazards were considered a part of doing business. More recently, friendly legislatures at least in part insulated stockmen from risk by requiring the Division of Wildlife to reimburse them from a broad variety of damage - money paid by sportsmen who generally are excluded from these ranches unless they're willing to pay big again.

Landowners don't give up easily. When the Division of Wildlife proposed a modest compromise that presumably carried the blessing of both sportsmen and ranchers to a Nov. 3 meeting of the Wildlife Commission, lobbyists quickly turned the session into another round of pounding away for more concessions.

Timid commission members acquiesced to an expanded study of units in which landowners might be awarded even more vouchers for sale to the highest bidder.

Curiously, not one sportsman representative rose to refute them. As someone suggested, sportsmen thought they put the matter to rest when they beat back a voucher challenge a year ago and simply nodded off.

Nothing could be farther from the truth. Landowners greedy for more of the public's licenses to sell to the highest bidder never sleep.
 
Boy, its all there in black and white. That article tells it like it really is. I'm assuming its Charlie Meyers as he handles most of the outdoor writing for the Denver Post. Thanks for posting it. I assume that many voucher re-sellers will feel the bile in their collective guts bubble up with this one. Sportsmen and women need to contact their commision representatives and let them know how they feel. Go to the commision meetings and be heard.
 
Look at what SFW and a few other organizations have done to Utah. It's the same thing, no waiting periods, just action off the tags in the name of conservation.
 
Love the article. It won't win many fans with the ranchers - but screw them....... They are a bunch of blood-suckers trying to make money off a resource that doesn't belong to them.

On the other hand, the DOW isn't much better. All they are concerned about is the almighty dollar.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-15-05 AT 11:45AM (MST)[p]Easy on the vampire rancher comments... most of them are just regular hard working people doing what any of us would do in the same situation. If we dont like the rules and the status quo, then we need to do what we can to change it.

I think the best thing CDOW could do is get some rules pushed through that require the landowner voucher acquired tags to be valid ONLY on the landowners land. If they really feel they deserve the vouchers (which I dont in many cases), then they absolutely need to have the animals harvested off of their own land, not mine (and yours...). That would to me would have some resemblance of fairness... or does that just make too much sense??? If the voucher prices then go up because that meant you could hunt some super-duper ranch crawling with huge animals, then so be it. At least its on their land under their own management.
 
Glad you posted that article. That was a really good one. Buckspy is right. We need to get out and make our voices heard. I'm guilty of not going to the meetings too.
 
There is a provision that the Commission will be voting on, that would require the Landowner to give the buyer access to his land (Gee, there's a thought). But I highly doubt the DOW will enforce it, even if the Commission agrees to it.

It would in theory at least put the Tag-Pimps out of business.

For Colorado residents, this voucher mess needs to be changed by the State Legislature, not the DOW or W.C., so write to your State Senate and Rep in Denver. They created this mess and are the only ones that can undo it
 
What about the guy that doens't hold much game during the hunting season but has some really important winter range or fawning grounds? I definitely share some of the concerns expressed by this article, but still wonder what the best way is to address some of the issues surrounding private landowner compensation.
Dax
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-15-05 AT 02:06PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Nov-15-05 AT 01:10?PM (MST)

Great Post. Please post the citation. I'm sure the Mule Deer Foundation has seen that story, but I'd like to be sure that its board of directors sees it too.

I mean no offence to members of the MDF, but I took this issue up with its board and its executive director (July 2005), since the organization looks more like an adverting extenstion for "trophy" bucks than a conservation organization, but basicly they blew me off with a bunch of meaningless words. The MDF started with great intentions, but it too is turning into an elitist hunting organization. I'd be glad to share their letters to me and mine to them with anyone that's interested, just send me a PM.



Roadless areas, in general, represent some of the best fish and wildlife habitat on public lands. The bad news is that there is nothing positive about a road where fish and wildlife habitat are concerned -- absolutely nothing. (B&C Professor, Jack Ward Thomas, Fair Chase, Fall 2005, p.10).
 
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Personally, what I would like to see that all the Ranchers private lands opened to development, winter range, summer range and fall pastures. I would also like to see all wildlife depredating on private lands shot as they are competing with the rancher?s lively hood third. I would like all private lands to completely close all access everyone and anyone, Then there would be no one could complaining about hunting, access or various other reasons, and the ranchers would reach there full income potential
 
Good Grief. . .


"Roadless areas, in general, represent some of the best fish and wildlife habitat on public lands. The bad news is that there is nothing positive about a road where fish and wildlife habitat are concerned -- absolutely nothing." (B&C Professor, Jack Ward Thomas, Fair Chase, Fall 2005, p.10).
 
here's the link to the full article, it has the citation if needed.

http://denverpost.com/rec/ci_3220587


"Roadless areas, in general, represent some of the best fish and wildlife habitat on public lands. The bad news is that there is nothing positive about a road where fish and wildlife habitat are concerned -- absolutely nothing." (B&C Professor, Jack Ward Thomas, Fair Chase, Fall 2005, p.10).
 
Sorry I didn't mention the author, my mistake.

These tag whores need to be stopped if for nothing else then the fact that they are raping un educated non residents. 4th rifle unit 43 tags were bringing up to 3,000 per tag. That is just wrong. A lot of the so called good guys out west here involved in hunting were guilty of taking advantage of the feeding frenzy. What comes around go's around.
 

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