CO Landowner Voucher Article

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Legislators target landowner voucher abuse

By Charlie Meyers
Denver Post Staff Writer
DenverPost.com

One involves action, the other talk, but the overall result from the separate initiatives of two Colorado legislators is likely to produce the same desired result.

Finally, after months of ineffectual wrangling in official wildlife circles, the knotty issue of landowner voucher abuse will be aired in a more public forum, a discourse that just might lead to badly needed reform.

Rep. John Soper, D-Northglenn, today is scheduled to introduce legislation that proposes to alter both the structure of the state wildlife hierarchy and the way preference licenses for big game are doled out.

In short order, Sen. Lois Tochtrop, D-Adams County, will initiate hearings on the allocation of these landowner vouchers, with an eye toward possible future legislative activity.

In both cases, the concern is the same: that a voucher program intended as personal and limited license relief for landowners has evolved into a nightmare of commercial manipulation that threatens the fabric of Colorado hunting.

Soper's bill aims for a return to the original purpose of license preference, which was to provide landowners a guaranteed tag to hunt on their own land.

"The rationale is to start that debate, to get those discussions going and shine some light on the issue," said John Berry, a Denver attorney and lobbyist for the Colorado Sportsmen's Coalition, a supporter of the bill.

Tochtrop called a meeting of the Legislative Sportsmen's Caucus, a forum that of late had fallen into disuse but on Thursday attracted a turnout of a dozen state senators and representatives who have taken sudden interest in license matters.

The gathering at the state Capitol also enticed members of the Colorado Wildlife Federation and other outdoor enthusiasts who spoke against perceived abuses in the current voucher system.

In conclusion, the senator declared her intent to conduct hearings to gather further public testimony on license issues that strike to the very heart of fairness in the outdoor environment.

Landowners currently receive 15 percent of these licenses off the top and 18 months ago launched an all-out campaign for more, a push that continues at every level of formal wildlife management. Only recently has the average sportsman begun to resist.

The most fundamental objection to the voucher system is that it allows wealthy hunters who can afford to pay fees that sometimes range to five figures to jump to the head of the line for the most desirable tags. Next comes the visual obscenity of finding Colorado's best hunting opportunities flaunted on eBay and the websites of license brokers, many from out of state.

Certain reforms might solve most of these ills:

Restrict vouchers to the property owned by the person to which they were issued. This basic element of fairness richly rewards landowners who actually harbor wildlife, not those who don't. It also eliminates undue competition with public hunters on public land, a growing source of abuse and conflict. Requiring voucher holders to use private land also serves to distribute animals that currently use these enclaves for refuge, one of the thorny problems of wildife management.

Eliminate the transfer of vouchers to third parties. Landowners who hold vouchers should designate them directly to family, friends or the hunters who will use them - not to brokers or outfitters for escalating resale.

Hunters who purchase vouchers for areas that require preference points should forfeit whatever points they might possess, just like everyone else.

A current system that allows thousands of leftover vouchers to go unused, with a loss of public opportunity in the most desirable hunt units, must be changed. The recent decision by the Wildlife Commission to charge $25 for unused vouchers is tantamount to putting a Band-Aid on an amputation - classic of that body's impotent approach to a problem raging out of control.

Most of these elements by law require legislative process. It's a course of action long overdue.
 
Thanks for posting this. Charlie Meyers has done a great job of keeping this issue in the newspaper. Finally something might be done to curb the commercialization of big game in this state.
 
Just wanted to repost my thoughts i out on the end of another thread abobut this...


No tags valid to hunt on public lands should be sold to the highest bidder. CO landowner, Utah landowner, Utah Wealth tags, AZ Strip "plane and remote camera sweep for the biggest buck" tag, UT governers tags....nothing. It is a ridiculous notion that these tags are for the benefit of helping wildlife more than the rich guides and landowners that sell/(sorry)tag pimp these tags out.
The harm to public sport hunting from selling 1 or 1000 tags to the highest bidder for Western public land hunts is far greater than the 1 or 2 million dollars raised for the habitat (or DWR budget) helps public sport hunting.

If you are in favor of these tags you must be gaining personally from them (whether you buy them, tag pimp em out and/or guide for $$$) and are not truly concerned about the health of the game species and are truly not concerned about the future of public opportunity to hunt big game on public lands.

IMO

-pinenut
 
It will be interesting to see what happens.

I have been told the legislature has always been pro-ag, and it was the legislature who first enacted this law. With the democratic control, maybe things will be different.

The outcome could be worse then it is today, only time will tell. Sportsman, as a community, have a poor track record when it comes to voicing their opinions.
 
if they stick with the plan i just read, it's O.K by me...and about time!...
 
The easy remedy to the problem is for people who purchase a landowner tag to lose their prefernce points. This would help with the points banking problem, and make these vouchers not so outrageously expensive. The rich are always going to find ways around the system, but they should not be allowed to participate in both systems.
 
I agree, there definitely needs to be a lot of changes made to that system. We will see what happens. The old notion, "money talks and bull#### walks" is likely to prevail though. Nonetheless, if I can swing it with the ol' finances, I'm not ashamed to say I might be in the market for a landowner tag. Especially, since CO effectively doubled the amount of years that I will be waiting for a premium unit. Let me say, I'm not rich by any means. I've been doing without a lot of things to save up this money. I'm interested to see how much the price of a landowner tag raises after the new tag allocation.
 
Charlie Meyers has been a voice "crying in the wilderness" and at many times the only voice the average sportman has heard. These greedy landowners/outfitters & tag pimps are doing everything in their power to commercialize "Our" wildlife and we need to start yelling! Now!!! or hunting in North American will be just like Europe.
I'm a landowner and qualify for landowner tags but disagree whole heartedly with this "Commercialization" of our wildlife.

If you agree with Charlie Meyers' article, please e-mail him and tell him, Thank you! [email protected]
 
amen Charlie! It's about time the legislators got involved on the sane side of things.
 
Walltenthunter, What do you think about this?

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>Just wanted to repost my thoughts
>i out on the end
>of another thread abobut this...
>
>
>
>No tags valid to hunt on
>public lands should be sold
>to the highest bidder. CO
>landowner, Utah landowner, Utah Wealth
>tags, AZ Strip "plane and
>remote camera sweep for the
>biggest buck" tag, UT governers
>tags....nothing. It is a ridiculous
>notion that these tags are
>for the benefit of helping
>wildlife more than the rich
>guides and landowners that sell/(sorry)tag
>pimp these tags out.
>The harm to public sport hunting
>from selling 1 or 1000
>tags to the highest bidder
>for Western public land hunts
>is far greater than the
>1 or 2 million dollars
>raised for the habitat (or
>DWR budget) helps public sport
>hunting.
>
>If you are in favor of
>these tags you must be
>gaining personally from them (whether
>you buy them, tag pimp
>em out and/or guide for
>$$$) and are not truly
>concerned about the health of
>the game species and are
>truly not concerned about the
>future of public opportunity to
>hunt big game on public
>lands.
>
>IMO
>
>-pinenut


Pinenut, I'm not sure how the voucher system works, but explain to me how selling 1 sheep tag for $100,000 or selling 1 MD tag for $150,000 doesn't help fund at least some projects. It's one hunter. One resident hunter may raise $100 for the State DOW and one NR may pay $500 for that 1 tag.

It appears the vouchers system effects more than one tag.

People who are worried that hunting here WILL turn into Europe type, it already is. It cost me as a NR $500 plus expenses to hunt on Public Land. It cost $3,500+ to hunt on private. For the working class stiff, thats alot of money.
 
First time I think I have ever sided with democrats. If these tags were valid only on the private land they were intended for, then the problem would be solved. I also think they should mandate you lose any accumumlated points too if you purchase these tags. Ol' Garth Carter will be crying himself to sleep if they fix this system. Poor guy might have to get a real job instead of pimping out the west.
 
It is going to end up being all lipservice to get some extra campaign contributions.

They will huff and puff and then the Guides Assc. and the Landowner Assc. and the local Bsns. Assc. will get 'ear time' with these politicians and then comes the cash-O-la contributions from them... not crybaby internet types like all of us and it will go to committee and DIE.

They get re-elected thanks to the extra $$$$ and all stays the same...

www.tag-pimp.com
 
You forgot to add that the sky is falling.

The world is what WE make it.

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
 

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