Just FYI here is a list of comments from Public hunters that have drawn a tag. These are both good and bad comments (If you can see any of the good ones). This should tell you a little about how people feel about CWMU and the experience the had.
This was taken straight from the CWMU website.
Comments from Public Draw Hunters
WINTER MODE ACCESSABILITY. DON'T LIKE BEING SHOT OVER AND
COMPETETIVENESS.
2 DAYS MAXIMUM - TOO MANY OTHER GROUPS STILL LEFT TO HUNT. LESS
GAME SEEN.
25 TO 30 HUNTERS ON 1 ROAD WITHOUT ANY ELK AND THE OPERATOR
(TERRY THATCHER) MADE IT CLEAR UP FRONT HE DIDN'T WANT ANY ELK
HARVESTED.
COULD NOT HUNT CERTAIN AREAS.
CWMU OPERATER DID NOT WANT TO WORK WITH DATES FOR HUNT, WAS
MORE CONCERNED WITH HUNTERS THAT PAID THE FULL PRICE FOR HUNT.
CHANGED DATES OF OUR HUNT TWICE. VERY HOSTILE TO US.
DID NOT SEE ANY TROPHY BUCKS.
DIDNT FIND OUT WHEN THE HUNT WAS UNTIL A WEEK BEFORE THE
SEASON. I CALLED AND THEY WOULDN'T TELL. ALSO, THE MAPS WERE
POORLY WRITTEN. NO SCOUTING AVAILABLE. I FELT IN THE DARK.
DIDNT SEE ANIMALS DESIRED TO HARVEST.
DIDNT SEE ANY GAME.
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DISSATISFIED WITH NOT BEING ALLOWED TO TAKE MY ATV ON THE
PROPERTY. RIDING AN ATV WOULD HAVE MADE THE HUNT MORE
ENJOYABLE.
DISTANCE TO REDD RANCHES.
FEW ANIMALS LOTS OF HUNTERS SEEN ALL AROUND.
GOODS AND SERVICES TOO FAR AWAY FOR CONVIENENCE.
HARD TO GET AT HEAVY SNOW MAYBE A FLUKE.
HAVE HUNTED OTHER CWMUS IN THE PAST. NONE ALLOWED ADEQUATE
TIME TO SCOUT AREA PRIOR TO HUNT. NO ANTLERLESS HUNTERS WERE
ALLOWED ON PROPERTIES UNTIL AFTER BULL HUNTS.
HEAVY SNOWS LIMITED ACCESS. WOULD HAVE LIKED TO START EARLIER
IN SEASON. GATES WERE OFTEN LOCKED.
HUNT COULD HAVE HAPPENED A WEEK OR TWO LATER FOR COOLER
WEATHER TIMIMG. MAY HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY OTHER HUNTS.
HUNT WAS LATE ENOUGH ANIMALS WERE NO LONGER THERE.
I DREW OUT & HAD TO WALK ON EGGSHELLS AROUND HUNTERS WHO
PURCHASED A GUIDED HUNT FROM THE CWMU. THEY TOOK PRIORITY ON
DAYS AND AREAS. I FELT LIKE A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN TO THE GUIDE
SERVICE (NO THE CWMU OWNERS).
I ENJOYED THE HUNT.
I FEEL THE TIME AND WEATHER WERE WRONG. THE ANIMALS WERE NOT
AVAILABLE TO SEE OR HUNT AT THAT TIME.
I HAD A GREAT TIME.
I HAD TO GET AHOLD OF CWMU OPERATOR MYSELF AND HAD A HARD
TIME DOING SO.
I SAW ONE BIGGER BULL EARLY IN THE HUNT FIRST HOUR OF FIRST DAY
BUT COULD NOT FIND HIM AGAIN. HARVESTED BULL LAST HOUR OF LAST
DAY. I WANTED MORE TIME. EARLY SEPTEMBER WAS VERY HOT. I
SHOULD HAVE WENT IN OCTOBER.
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I WAS EXPECTING TO SEE AT LEAST A GOOD 4X4. THE BEST ANIMAL I SAW
WAS A 26" 3 X 3. ALSO GETTING A HOLD OF THE OPERATOR WAS
DIFFICULT.
I WAS MOST DISAPPOINTED WITH THE SIZE OF THE BUCKS & THE AMOUNT
OF SO CALLED SHOOTERS.
I WAS NEVER NOTIFIED BY CWMU OPERATOR THROUGH MAIL OR PHONE.
HUNTING BUDDIES WERE ALL NOTIFIED BY SOME WAY.
I WAS VERY UNHAPPY WITH DATES AVAILABLE. CWMU OPERATOR WAS
MORE CONCERNED WITH HUNTERS THAT PAID THE NON-PUBLIC PRICE.
HAD TO WORK AROUND DATES I DIDN'T WANT. CWMU OPERATER NOT
FLEXIBLE WITH DATES TO HUNT.
IN EIGHT HOURS OF HUNTING WE SAW ONLY ONE BUCK AND SHOT IT.
INFO GIVEN BY OPERATOR ON ANIMAL LOCATION WAS VERY INACURATE.
OPERATOR DIDN'T SHOW DURING THE HUNT DATES.
IS A POOR WAY TO CONTROL THE SIZE OF THE DEER POPULATION.
IT WAS A JOKE! TOO MANY GUYS ON ONE ROAD WITH NO OTHER ACCESS.
OPERATOR DIDN'T HELP AT ALL.
IT WAS CRAZY TO HAVE TO TRAVEL TO SALT LAKE TO SHOOT TO SEE IF
YOU CAN HUNT ON THE GROUND. THEY SHOULD ALLOW YOU TO SHOOT
AT OTHER UDWR RANGES TO GET YOUR SCORE. WHAT A WASTE OF TIME
AND MONEY.
IT WAS MORE AKIN TO HERDING THAN HUNTING.
IT WAS TOO EASY TO KILL AN ANIMAL. IT WAS LIKE SHOPPING FOR A
DEER IN A CATALOG FROM INSIDE A TRUCK.
JUST VERY FEW AMIMALS-ANTLERLESS ELK.
LANDOWNER NOT HELPFUL BY ANY MEANING.
LATE HUNT SNOW PUSHED ANIMALS OUT. SOME CWMU HUNTERS
ALLOWED IN EARLIER, MOVED HERD OUT OF CWMU BOUNDARIES.
LIED TO AND LED ASTRAY.
MANY LOCKED GATES MADE ACCESS TO SOME AREAS NOT PRACTICAL.
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NEED MORE TIME. NOT MANY ANIMALS.
NEVER SAW A TROPHY ANIMAL EVER & VERY FEW ANIMALS IN GENERAL.
NO ANIMALS IN 3 DAYS OF HUNTING ALSO TALKED TO OTHER HUNTERS
ALL WITH THE SAME RESULTS. DIDN'T EXPECT SHEEP TO HAVE EATEN
EVERYTHING AND STILL BE IN THE AREA.
NO ANIMALS SEEN AT ALL.
NO ANIMALS SEEN IN TWO DAYS. THEY HAD TOO MUCH PRESSURE
BEFORE.
NO ANIMALS SEEN SAME I THINK & SHOULD BE LONGER BUT LOT OF
MONEY FOR NO ANIMALS.
NO GAME.
NO HELP OR ANIMALS.
NO HUNTING PRESSURE. LARGE AMOUNT OF ANIMALS. PLEASANT CWMU
PERSONNEL
NO SUPPORT PROVIDED BY CWMU OPERATOR DESPITE MY GOING OUT OF
THE WAY FOR INFORMATION AND TRYING TO SET UP A GUIDE (FELL
THROUGH ON 3 OCCASIONS BECAUSE THE GUIDE NEVER SHOWED UP). WE
NEVER SAW ANY ANIMALS PROBABLY DUE TO INCREASED HUNTING
PRESSURE AND UNFAMILIARITY WITH THE LAND.
NO TROPHIES WERE SEEN.
NOT ALLOWED TO HUNT THE AREAS WE WANTED I FEEL THIS RESULTED
IN NOT SEEING THE NUMBER OR QUALITY OF GAME THAT I KNOW ARE
AVAILABLE ON THIS PROPERTY.
NOT ENOUGH AREA OPEN TO HUNT. TOO MUCH PRIVATE GROUND.
NOT ENOUGH DEER.
NOT ENOUGH TIME TO SCOUT BEFORE HUNT.
NOT MANY BULL MOOSE DIDNT GET TO HUNT DURING ARCHERY ONLY
SEEN ONE BULL ON THE PROPERTY.
NOT MANY DEER AS OTHER YEARS! THIS CWMU IS OVER HUNTED FOR
DOES.
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NOT ONE ELK ON THE UNIT-COW CALF OR BULL.
NOT TOO MANY TROPHY ANIMALS.
ONE WEEK IS NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR AN AREA SOMEWHAT NEW TO ME.
ONLY SAW 1 ELK.
OPERATOR ALLOWS PUBLIC DRAW HUNTERS 10 DAYS AND THOSE THAT
BUY PERMITS THREE MONTHS.
OPERATOR GAVE BOGUS INFO. WOULD NOT MEET ME TO SHOW AREA.
OUT-RIGHT TOLD ME HE DIDN'T WANT ANY COWS TAKEN OFF UNIT.
WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.
OTHER THAN MAPS OF UNIT PROVIDED, NO ONE WAS REALLY TALKATIVE
ABOUT THE UNIT OR WHAT THEY HAD SEEN AS FAR AS DEER WAS
CONCERNED. I WAS SOMEWHAT SURPRISED TO SEE AS MANY HUNTERS AS
I DID. LOCAL GOODS AND SERVICES WAS NOT AVAILABLE IN WOODRUFF.
PUBLIC HUNTERS SEEM SOMETIMES TO GET THE LEFTOVERS AFTER THE
RUT AND THE HIGH DOLLAR HUNTERS HAVE HAD THEIR PICK. ALTHOUGH
I UNDERSTAND THE OPERATORS MOTIVES FOR SUCH, IT CAN BE
SOMEWHAT FRUSTRATING.
SHORT SEASON FOR WINTERING ELK AREA. ACCESS NOT FOR WHOLE
RANCH, FEW ELK IN AREA, ALL HUNTERS TOGETHER. PUBLIC HUNTERS
LAST TO HUNT.
SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HUNT SAME AMOUNT OF TIME AS REGULAR
HUNT.
SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN MORE THAN 3 DAYS TO HARVEST.
SMALL TOWN & DIDNT HAVE ALL ITEMS DESIRED.
THE BUCKS THAT WERE FINALLY SEEN WERE SMALL TO AVERAGE AND
FEW IN NUMBER.
THE LANDOWNER WAS NOT HELPFUL ON WHEN OR WHERE TO HUNT I
HAD TO CALL HIM. I FINALLY GOT TO GO, DID NOT SEE ANYTHING. HE
SAID HE WOULD CALL ME WHEN THEY CAME DOWN. HE NEVER DID. I HAD
TO CALL AGAIN HE SAID I ONLY HAD ONE DAY LEFT BECAUSE STATE WAS
CLOSING IT. NEVER GOT TO GO AGAIN. I WAS DISSATISFIED.
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THE SNOW KILLED MY HUNT. THERE WERE ALSO SOME SNOWMOBILERS
THAT WERE ON OTHER PROPERTY THAT WEREN'T HELPING EITHER!
THERE WERE WAY TO MANY HUNTERS ON THE RANCH
THIS OPERATOR WAS RUDE GATES WERE LOCKED & NO WAY TO GET
THROUGH THEM. DEER POPULATION WAS LOW. SAW SEVERAL PEOPLE IN
THE CWMU THAT DID NOT HAVE PERMITS. IT WAS A JOKE!
TIME OF HUNT - ANIMALS NOT IN CWMU AREA.
TOO SMALL OF AN HUNTING SPOT.
TOO EARLY, WATHER TOO WARM. RATHER THAN ONE WEEK, SEVERAL
SHOULD BE ALLOWED.
TOO MUCH SNOW LATE IN THE HUNT.
TOO WARM - WAIT A FEW WEEKS UNTIL WEATHER COOLS.
TWO FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS IS NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR THE MONEY
PAID FOR THE TAG.
UTAH'S VERY DRY IN THE AREA AND BELIEVED SOME DRY CONDITIONS
PLAYED ROLE IN THE LITTLE AMOUNT OF TROPHY QUALITY BUCKS.
WAS NOT ALLOWED ENOUGH TIME.
WASNT LET ONTO THE RANCH UNTIL SNOW WAS MUCH TOO DEEP.
WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE IN ONE SMALL SPACE & NOT ONE LEGAL ANIMAL
ON THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. THE OPERATOR WAS UNFRIENDLY, NONHELPFUL,
AND HE DIDN'T CARE THAT THE HUNT WAS A TOTAL FARSE.
WE HAD A GROUP OF 5 PERMITS BUT WERE UNABLE TO ALL HUNT
TOGETHER. I DIDN'T GET TO FILL TAGS.
WE WANTED TO HUNT LATE. WE WERE TOLD NO.
WE WERE ONLY ALLOWDED TO DRIVE ONTO PROPERTY SO MY DAUGHTER
& I COULD SLAUGHTER DOES. WE WENT LATER BUT SNOWS WERE TOO
DEEP.
WERE NOT GIVEN MANY OPTIONS ON WHAT DAYS I COULD HUNT.
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WHEN I QUALIFIED BY SHOOTING MY RIFLE I WAS TOLD I HAD PICK OF
DAY FOR SHOOTING A 1 INCH GROUP WITH RIFLE BUT THAT DID NOT
WORK OUT THAT WAY. I WAS PLACED AT THE SOONEST DATE WHICH WAS
OCTOBER 22, RIGHT WHEN DESERET HAD SO MANY DEER HUNTERS IN
THERE NO ELK WERE TO BE FOUND (WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY). THEY
SHOULD NOT TELL PEOPLE THEY HAVE FIRST PICK OF DAYS WHEN THEY
CANNOT OFFER PRIME TIME TO HUNT COW ELK.
WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HUNTED EARLIER. HEAVY SNOWS LIMITED
ACCESS-AND ABILITY TO RETRIEVE ANIMAL WAS QUITE DIFFICULT