It is tough. Brother in law had it a few years back and got in on two really big bulls. I had it two years ago and because of snow the elk were in the middle country, a lot stayed on the carbon side, ended up with a 6 point but nothing huge. Last year other brother in law had it, but the early guys knocked the crap out of the bulls. Most of the herd bulls were 5-points(thats what he got). Had a really good bull that made it through the early and muzz only to be poached. There is a huge herd (all bulls) that winter out by Spring City Cemetery, but when they get there is up to the weather and a lot of ground between there and the high country is private. Send me a message if I can be of service with info, but I would do the early if I had it to do again.