Thanks for the welcome. I'll tell a story that should make Mr. Bobcat's day and any other ATV haters out there. Two years ago while scouting the week before the opener of the Utah rifle hunt I destroyed my ATV. I had a friend with me on the back and I guess he did'nt want to get too cozy. We went over backwards and he pulled me off with him. I had no time to get back to my feet before my bike went over the edge and rolled maybe 20 or 30 times, it was dark so I could'nt see it but only listened for the longest 20 or 30 seconds of my life. At about 300 feet down it hit a pine tree about 8" in diameter and snaped the tree in half (sorry tree huggers). When I found my machine, the rear rack was sitting up against the gas tank and the rear axle was bent on a 45 degree. Also one front wheel was gone and nowhere in sight. On our way hiking out, about 100 feet from the bike was the front wheel and half the axle attached. When we got back to tow it out with another ATV, it started right up like it always had for the past 13 years (love those Hondas). Yes, I was on an approved trail. With all the damage, I ended up selling it for parts. That next week my son was born and my season ended short with no deer but I'm grateful I was able to be there for his birth.