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WasatchWacker

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-24-10 AT 09:11PM (MST)[p]
I have the official score on this guy. How close can you score him?
This bull was killed last year on the extended archery season with an archers choice over the counter tag!!


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LAST EDITED ON Aug-24-10 AT 10:45PM (MST)[p]367"!

I overscored the Bull!
353"!

I love not acting my age,
Damn I love my NASCAR race,
And Hell yes I love my Truck!
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-24-10 AT 10:08PM (MST)[p]Here are some more pic's of him!!
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Is that a newly built road right through that Meadow?

I love not acting my age,
Damn I love my NASCAR race,
And Hell yes I love my Truck!
 
Not sure on the road, the bull scored 360 he has 23" 3rds and 20" fronts.6X8
 
Nice Bull!
After I seen the width I knew I overscored him,then I took a second Jab & underscored him a little,right in between my 2 Guesstimations!
Awesome 3rds I could see that,too bad He'd been kickin every other Bull arounds Butt & busted a few up!

I love not acting my age,
Damn I love my NASCAR race,
And Hell yes I love my Truck!
 
Nice bull! But if that is were you killed him your a couple miles from the extended boundry. So i hope you don't get in trouble.
 
Congrats on the bull! I wish that was me, but I have to agree with the above statement. If that is the pic of where he was killed, That is wasatch hunting unit. I have hunted all over the extended and have never seen a road in the middle of the meadows like that. Unless it was "NEWLY CONSTRUCTED". Nice bull though.
 
That meadow is not within the Wasatch Extended area. As was said, it is a couple miles and girls camp away. I am sure we will hear how he shot the bull within the Extended and then transported the antlers to this meadow for photos.

B-Bop- The meadow always had a road into it. The past few years have held the traffic down due to some large boulders in the road. Driving into it never worked anyway, because the game could get to the trees very quickly and you have to avoid shooting the cabins that line it.
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-25-10 AT 10:25AM (MST)[p]The elk was shot about two and a half miles northeast of that meadow which is in the boundries, while we were hunting we ran into multiple people that were also hunting the extended archery. You can drive down that road and at the top there is a trail that takes you straight back from there. It is the closest road to get in and out of unless you want to walk straight up and straight down. The only reason I didnt get pics sooner is because the camera was in my truck.
 
Well,
I have not a clue on this unit/area!
Just looked like fresh tracks through a meadow & now it's a road?
Remember,it only takes one set of tracks and now she's a road!
Maybe I'm wrong 2_Point,but that surely doesn't look like it's always been a road,who put the rocks in & who moved them?

Sounds like a typical USFS road closure,the poorest of any attempt to close a road!

I love not acting my age,
Damn I love my NASCAR race,
And Hell yes I love my Truck!
 
Bess,
No, it was never closed (as far as I have ever seen). There was a washed out area that is nasty and then some boulders which have become more exposed. There is actually a maintained gravel, County road which runs about 250 yards parallel to the meadow on the right of the photo. And some cabins sit between the meadow and the county road.

I can't imagine using the meadow as a starting point to hunt the extended. That is a long hump into the open area.
 
Hey Wasatch great bull. I am assuming that is not the meadow you killed him in whereas there is no body in the picture? do you have any field pics?
 
Well,
I'm surely not accusing WasatchWacker of anything,looks like He's hauled the headless rack to the meadow for pics?
Not gonna accuse him of killing it on his back lawn either!
Hope it was legal & that's all I got to say about that!
Again,Nice Bull!

I love not acting my age,
Damn I love my NASCAR race,
And Hell yes I love my Truck!
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-26-10 AT 04:41PM (MST)[p]Well I guess I will be the first one to just flat out call Bull Sh*t on this one. I was fishing earlier but I will just come out and say it. I watched that bull alot last year. He never once went that far from that exact meadow in which you are standing. anything over half to two thirds of a mile would put you on private gound. and anything two and a half miles would put you in houses. and all between that is private as well. I may be mistaken but that appears to be blood in the lower corner of the picture in the tire marks. If you did shoot him 2 1/2 miles to the northeast that is one bid a$$ hill he ran up to come down that back side. As I said before though I called that bull in many times last year and saw him many others and never once did he go towards the north of that cabin subdivision up there. so I have a hard time believing that one day he decided to walk all the way up that hill down the other side and reside in a city until he got shot and then decide to run all the way back to where he had spent the previous four months of the summer/fall just as he had for the previous five years of his life. I have never really been one to start controversy. But stupidity and pride made you have very bad judgement in posting those pics that told everyone exactly where you were.

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Highlighted in red is the blood. you can also see his bow. I was in this meadow multiple times last year and I was actually standing right there last night that stuff on the groung is not a growth nor is it usually there I am pretty sure it is blood. and if you transported the horns to there why would you have your bow laying on the ground.
 
>LAST EDITED ON Aug-26-10
>AT 04:41?PM (MST)

>
>Well I guess I will be
>the first one to just
>flat out call Bull Sh*t
>on this one. I was
>fishing earlier but I will
>just come out and say
>it. I watched that bull
>alot last year. He never
>once went that far from
>that exact meadow in which
>you are standing. anything over
>half to two thirds of
>a mile would put you
>on private gound. and anything
>two and a half miles
>would put you in houses.
>and all between that is
>private as well. I may
>be mistaken but that appears
>to be blood in the
>lower corner of the picture
>in the tire marks. If
>you did shoot him 2
>1/2 miles to the northeast
>that is one bid a$$
>hill he ran up to
>come down that back side.
>As I said before though
>I called that bull in
>many times last year and
>saw him many others and
>never once did he go
>towards the north of that
>cabin subdivision up there. so
>I have a hard time
>believing that one day he
>decided to walk all the
>way up that hill down
>the other side and reside
>in a city until he
>got shot and then decide
>to run all the way
>back to where he had
>spent the previous four months
>of the summer/fall just as
>he had for the previous
>five years of his life.
>I have never really been
>one to start controversy. But
>stupidity and pride made you
>have very bad judgement in
>posting those pics that told
>everyone exactly where you were.
>
>
>
31668724bull_elk_4.1.jpg

>
>Highlighted in red is the blood.
>you can also see his
>bow. I was in this
>meadow multiple times last year
>and I was actually standing
>right there last night that
>stuff on the groung is
>not a growth nor is
>it usually there I am
>pretty sure it is blood.
>and if you transported the
>horns to there why would
>you have your bow laying
>on the ground.


look in the very first field pic he posted. right above the blood and to the right of the left tire track you can clearly see the brush layed out flat were a body of a bull elk was lying
 
HEHEHE
Looks like a couple of our internet sleuths are scratching their heads right about now...

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-27-10 AT 07:36AM (MST)[p]No. No scratching of the head. I know right where he was with that rack. I would just like to hear the explanation for the blood in his pictures if he killed it two miles from that location. I would also like to know if you are just taking the rack in for a photo op why are you packing your bow still especially where earlier in the post he said and I quote:
The only reason I didnt get pics sooner is because the camera was in my truck. so where did the above field pic come from and if you went to your truck to get your camera why would your bow just be laying on the gound right near the blood and again if you went to your truck to get your camera for that field pic why wouldn't you drop your bow off so you had less stuff to pack out. he was already dead no need for your bow. And what are the odds you drove off the main road all the way back into the exact meadow where he had been all summer and the previous summers for a photo op doesn't add up.
 
I doubt that is blood in the track. It looks like the brown dirt from moles/voles/water that occur in the meadow (and most others). That really isn't the issue.

It is curious that he says they took pictures in the meadow because they did not have a camera at the kill site, but there is a kill site photo. Appears he lied to cover up something.

Some might think it is BS to call him out, but those of us who know the area and had seen that very bull are left scratching our heads as to how he really killed it in the extended area. I tend to think he just did not know the boundaries.
 
>Some might think it is BS
>to call him out, but
>those of us who know
>the area and had seen
>that very bull are left
>scratching our heads as to
>how he really killed it
>in the extended area.
>I tend to think he
>just did not know the
>boundaries.

I am not scratching my head. I know that he killed it out of the extended but I do agree with you that he did not know the exact boundaries. I ran into multiple people that were in that area hunting cause they thought it was in the new annex into the extended unit. But he obviously knew that it was not in the unit cause he tried to cover it up. I do disagree however with it not being blood. cause it looks like is goes up the grass and whereas you have been there you know there is not red dirt up in that area.
 
Where is WasatchWacker?? I usually don't think people should get called out and have to answer for themselves on the internet, but he did post this and say he had no pix from the kill site, but the pix from the archery thread look like the same bull at the kill site....you guys who know the area and the bull seem legit......who knows. I'd hate to cloud a guys great success for no reason, but I'm interested in how this turns out...I hope it was legal and just a cloudy story...
 
Sounds like Wacker may have Wacked for the last time in a while. His story isn't adding up. In the kill sight picture it looks to me as though he is on the edge of a opening. If you look on the left side of the picture you can see that the tree's don't continue. That elk doesn't look gutted in that picture either. It's for sure a kill sight pic. Busted man, that sucks.
 
the kill pics are taken just to the left of where he is in the meadow i have been in that terrain a bunch and there isnt alot of that stuff were he is saying he killed it i have the pics saved and it looks like i may be hunting with a big bull tag this next year on a draw unit expect a visit from the DWR
 
Any recent developments on this story? We have not heard back from "wackmaster" ever since the questions arose regarding the taking of this bull. Where is that meadow located? Judging from the discussion, I am guessing that it is above Midway or Park City?

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so why have you guys that know this meadow gone up and walked those aspens to left in the pick. gut pile will be easy to find. and then you turn him and get a tag???
 
>so why have you guys that
>know this meadow gone up
>and walked those aspens to
>left in the pick. gut
>pile will be easy to
>find. and then you turn
>him and get a tag???

Well the picture is from last year. so the gut pile will not be there anymore. but with how close they are to the road they probably took the whole elk out minus they guts.
 
I think you guys should get some soled info about a situation before you start running a guys name thou the dirt.
 
I agree....but it also seemed like guys who knew THAT bull and THAT meadow were asking the questions, and WasatchWacker gave some conflicting stories, then disappeared.....nothin "solid" about it...just questions.
 
I haven't disapeared, I have been sitting back watching all of you jerks that don't know me, wasn't there when I shot it, have no idea how or where I hunt, have no idea what happened attack me! Who gives any of you the right to try and make up your own story of what happened. I know where the boundries are and I know that I was within the boundries when I shot him so how dare any of you try and say that I wasn't, I am a very ethical hunter and I have never second guessed any dissicion that I have ever made. It is very sad to see that none of you pricks have anything better to do with your time then to sit and let your jealous pride's get the best of your immature mouth's. For those of you that stuck up for me during this immature attack I thank you and hope that you have a very sucsessful hunting season and for the rest of you Im sure you can figure out where I think you should go!!!
 
Well yes Justr_86 I think people have been getting butt hurt a little easy lately...oh wait, that's a different thread...

You shot a great bull and that's awsome! I'm glad you shared it with us. I don't know you at all and am willing to, and want to believe what you say about where you shot it. It makes it harder when other people I also don't know, say they know the bull, and the meadow, and raise questions about it being inside the boundry...combined with:

You saying you had no field photos because your camera was in the truck, but then posting a photo from the kill site in the archery forum....maybe no big deal, but why say you had no photos from the kill site if you did??? I know of a few good bulls that were rumored to have been killed "just a bit outside" of the boundry lines and funny thing is the camera was left in the truck or it was "too dark" for pictures on those bulls too...

You don't have to defend yourself at all, but don't get to bent if people question where you shot it. If you're legit, don't worry about it.
 
The field pic that was posted came from an old cell phone that I didnt know I had anymore, I had no camera at the kill site or else there would have been more pics, all I had was my phone.
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-01-10 AT 07:52AM (MST)[p]>The field pic that was posted
>came from an old cell
>phone that I didnt know
>I had anymore, I had
>no camera at the kill
>site or else there would
>have been more pics, all
>I had was my phone.

Not trying to beat a dead horse here but if you did not know that you had it how in the world did you post that kill picture before you told us you did not have any pictures of the elk before the rack on this thread? Because according to the post in the archery section you posted the kill pic at 9:07 P.M. on the 24th. And told us that you had no pictures while the bull was dead at 10:25 am on the 25th. and some of us may know more about you than you think.
 
Justin,
I've never been to Utah and I have no idea where or how you shot this great bull. However, those who have questioned it have brought up what appear to be some pretty legitimate and detailed questions. Your only defense so far is some contradictory story about your cell phone and to say you guys are idiots, you don't know me, and you don't know the story. That isn't much of a defense in the face of the facts that have been offered up by others. In fact, it makes some wonder even more. So, I sure hope your bull is legitimate and was taken legally. If so, congratulations, you have every right to be proud. If not, you have some 'splainin' to do.
 
Great bull. My best guess on score would be 355. He's a stud!

A bit of conflicting information posted by our OP...I hope he's being honest.
 
I dont think you drug that elk for a while then decide to get the best cell phone pic i have ever seen that look just like your cam pics
 
WOW!
DBG3285. You are a Mental Giant! You really threw me for a loop, until I got to looking at what you were really saying. I looked at the post "SUCCESS PICS PLEASE" by B BOP a LU LU. A picture was posted on August 24, 2010, at 9:07 with field photos of that Bull which was posted by WASATCHWACKER. In a different forum, 1 day later August 25, 2010, WASATCHWACKER is quoted as not having a Field Photo. Crazy.
DBG3285, way to go smarty pants! If the picture in the front yard, is his own residence, atleast the Coppers got him narrowed down with the rock in the background that says his last name?
 
Bunch of real internet Sherlock Holmes around here... He got it with a candlestick in the meadow where the "blood" is....Spare me...Nice bull man, thanks for sharing. Some of you guys need to get out and hunt instead of wasting your time breaking down successful field pics

RockyMtnOyster
 
>LAST EDITED ON Aug-26-10
>AT 04:41?PM (MST)

>
>Well I guess I will be
>the first one to just
>flat out call Bull Sh*t
>on this one. I was
>fishing earlier but I will
>just come out and say
>it. I watched that bull
>alot last year. He never
>once went that far from
>that exact meadow in which
>you are standing. anything over
>half to two thirds of
>a mile would put you
>on private gound. and anything
>two and a half miles
>would put you in houses.
>and all between that is
>private as well. I may
>be mistaken but that appears
>to be blood in the
>lower corner of the picture
>in the tire marks. If
>you did shoot him 2
>1/2 miles to the northeast
>that is one bid a$$
>hill he ran up to
>come down that back side.
>As I said before though
>I called that bull in
>many times last year and
>saw him many others and
>never once did he go
>towards the north of that
>cabin subdivision up there. so
>I have a hard time
>believing that one day he
>decided to walk all the
>way up that hill down
>the other side and reside
>in a city until he
>got shot and then decide
>to run all the way
>back to where he had
>spent the previous four months
>of the summer/fall just as
>he had for the previous
>five years of his life.
>I have never really been
>one to start controversy. But
>stupidity and pride made you
>have very bad judgement in
>posting those pics that told
>everyone exactly where you were.
>
>
>
31668724bull_elk_4.1.jpg

>
>Highlighted in red is the blood.
>you can also see his
>bow. I was in this
>meadow multiple times last year
>and I was actually standing
>right there last night that
>stuff on the groung is
>not a growth nor is
>it usually there I am
>pretty sure it is blood.
>and if you transported the
>horns to there why would
>you have your bow laying
>on the ground.


Coupl'a questions for DBG3285,,
If you really think that's blood in the pic, where did it come from??
Dam sure ain't enough there from a gut job,, dam sure didn't drag no big ol bull over and load it in a truck right there,
If he would of then there should of been alot more damage to the grass, as it is there ain't nothing there except a tire track, hardly any other grass laid over..

Wheres the blood on the kid?? I don't know bout you but when i field dress an animal i get some blood on my hands, maybe a spot on my knee, or the sleeve of my shirt..
This kid looks like he just got his clothes out of the dryer.

Why can't an Elk move off a few miles from where you last seen him?? Did you watch that bull every single day,24 hours a day??
Wasn't the spyder bull killed 15 miles or so from where he was last seen??? But earlier in the year he was pretty easy to find in the same general area??

Whats the big deal bout having his bow with him for a photo op.?? if you think that pic was taken the same day he shot it,
well i have to ask again wheres the blood??
If i would of killed that bull or any bull for that matter with my bow,
i dam sure would have my bow in most all the pics, that's quite an accomplishment to stick such a fine animal like that with a bow..

Your evidence is not only weak,, but very weak,, yet you and hornkiller have taken it upon yourselves to Bar-bq this young fella's ass with nothing more than some supposed blood on the ground, and a bow in the pic??

I have no idea if this bull was killed legal or not,but i do know it dam sure ain't my place to judge him, and there just ain't a shred of solid evidence to make me think he done anything illegal. The no field pic is a little suspicious, but it dam sure ain't enough to send this kid up the river, could be a millon explanations,
Maybe it really is from a cell phone, i have seen some pretty good pics from some of these new cell's..

Wasatchwacker nice bull congradulations..
 
+1 Rocky
# 1 Some-one is pissed because HIS bull moved out of his unit into another unit and got killed.

# 2 Go to the spot(meadow) and CSI the dirt(get blood DNA) and then have the DNA matched to the bull skull plate and problem solved and pick up your tag for that unit next year from the DFG.

# 3 I wish I was hunting instaed of sitting here.

# 4 STILL IT A GREAT BULL but I still wish I was hunting.


"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
>Bunch of real internet Sherlock Holmes
>around here... He got it
>with a candlestick in the
>meadow where the "blood" is....Spare
>me...Nice bull man, thanks for
>sharing. Some of you
>guys need to get out
>and hunt instead of wasting
>your time breaking down successful
>field pics
>
>RockyMtnOyster


LMAO!!!!
 
Now if he shot it in that meadow and took a picture by that aspen that is in the cell phone picture (Dr Death post 26)
should be easy as hell to match that tree and it spots to the one in the picture right kind of like a fingerprint. So find the tree and prove he shot it there.
Now if he shot it in the extended area I'm sure he can show you that same tree there in the extend area.

I'm starting a new show call "CSI in the Wild"


"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
>Bunch of real internet Sherlock Holmes
>around here... He got it
>with a candlestick in the
>meadow where the "blood" is....Spare
>me...Nice bull man, thanks for
>sharing. Some of you
>guys need to get out
>and hunt instead of wasting
>your time breaking down successful
>field pics
>
>RockyMtnOyster

Very funny rocky. Sorry to tell you though Sherlock Holmes and Clue have really nothing in common. Sherlock Holmes was a book about a great mythical detective. Clue on the other hand where the forementioned candle stick came from is a board game. In no way are they connected
 
The story will get better soon.
GDG3285 stick to it bud.


"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
there is nothing really to stick to wasatch is adament about killing this bull on the extended all I can prove is that the meadow with the skull cap is not in the boundaries. but he says he killed it in the extended and transported it for pictures. I think I know what he did but proving it is another matter. he says it died in the extended so I will leave it at that.
 
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See it all comes out with this Show, The top guys are getting the girls too. You too can became a top Wildlife Investigator on the hottest new show on the front.

Wasatch are you in for another series. LOL
See sticking to your guns or Bow pays off.
Wish you had more of the hunt story to tell us would love to hear how the hunt started and ended. Please post up the story Thanks for sharing.


"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 

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