Trailcam's The future or ?

[Gator]

I just read a thing we was talking about last year, How soon it would be before the tech side of trail cam's made it so you could BUY a scouting job, Well I think it will be here sooner then we think. Who know what it will cost for say a hunter in NJ to call up a guy in AZ who's has 100 cam's up and running on 50 waterhole's on the Strip and for $39.95 he will send you the last months worth of picture per waterhole(of course he will sell those same picture to 200 other hunters) It's now a reality that the tech part has the ability to do just that.Does it cost alot to setup yes it is, high price yes to us average guys but to big money no, they will have this up and running in the next few years,(some will have it this year)a power source and a PC base station and camera's that can be used up to 5 miles from the Base. The pictures can be monitored 24/7 to your personal website even. It will be wireless easy to setup.How many big deer will be able to get by that, Look to see WORLD RECORDS fall, It will be about the same as the hanging stands on waterholes,will it be First come first served or will the money guys get to hog the waterholes.

 

[D13er]

Christ, Gator, that is really depressing. I think you are right on the money though.

JB

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
--Benjamin Franklin 1759

 

[fatrooster]

What ever happened to just gettin' out and going hunting? fatrooster.

 

[moneyman]

Bass Pro Shops new catalog has a cam in it that will email you the pics. You don't even have to go check it.

 

[fin little]

Just one more nail.

 

[Gator]

I wonder who will be policing the how and where you can set them up, I see it as a big money (outfitters)pushing out the average guy, Sorry you can't setup your camera here I already have 10 of them, I mean look at the market This will be a huge business for some-one, 1000 cameras 2 per 500 waterholes $39.95 per sale per waterhole say 120 tag holders for one season 80 tag holders for 2nd season 50 tag holders for 3rd season first year you looking at $40,000 to $100,000 in sales, Cyper scouting is come soon to a area near you. Does some-one need a partner,

 

[DallanC]

You are WAY WAY behind the times. People have been selling hunting info like this for years now on MM. It hasnt ruined hunting as we know it... yet.

True trailcams are growing in available features. I love the internet browsable ones where from your webbrowser you can connect, and view images... some of the better cameras you can move it around, zoom in and out. Very nifty. I have alot of links to various cameras I found on the net that I like to browse at work. Its kind of peaceful to see whats going on on the top of some remote mountain when i'm stuck in a miserable job.

Trailcams will only get more popular as prices drop and the average sportsman finds out how fun it is to get their first pict of a elk licking the lense etc LOL. Will Trailcams end hunting as we know it? Not directly but there can be no doubt what hunting is, is changing for the majority.


-DallanC

 

[ddy58]

I can see people selling this info and making a little money but big money. Good cams cost 400 bucks so your initial investment would be 400,000 for a thousand cams. Thats alot of money to leave laying around on public ground, especially waterholes.

If you were selling to hundreds of people it wouldnt take long to piss everyone off when 15 people are sitting on the same holes.

You could make some money if you could find one or two 200 inch bucks and then sell that info for 5,000 instead of 39.95.

 

[Gator]

LAST EDITED ON Jul-04-06 AT 03:30PM (MST)[p]Yep Trail cam be around a long time these are Just a tad newer and whole lot better, You don't have to leave your living room to see what is in your hunting area, You bet you your last dollar that selling it to a bunch of different people will not slow the sales down, Because you are sell what has been there not what is going to be there the days you hunt, How many Camera's do you think a 1/2 dozen 200" will buy, You start out with 6-10 camera find 1-2 200" bucks sell those for 5-6 thousand buy 10 more camera's, If you don't think it will be tough for big deer to get by a waterhole with alot more at stake because of the money involved Maybe the time have passed you by Dallan But even a blind man can see where it is heading, As little as ten years ago you could draw tags for good areas now they are once in a lifetime, Great area's you wait 20 years or more, This new trail cam will be on watch 24/7 it will even take the picture of the guy who try's to steal it, the picture is load into your computer in seconds, with the world wide web putting out the picture of the guy who stole the camera how long do you think it will be before some-one turns him in, Tell ya what if this don't happen I will be the first to go GREAT But I think you will see them popping up in the next hunting season or two.
Big money don't mind putting out big dollars as long as they see how much they will make in the long run Putting a 100 grand into a project that could see back 10 times that is pretty easy for those who put up $60,000 for a single deer or elk tag.
Hell if I was a outfitter that who I would be talking too.
Hunting has become a high dollar way of life, just like many other things,If you got money you got tags, If you don't have money you are in the draw with the rest of us.
Hope your right about it but I have my doubts about it turning out that way, TAKE MONEY TO MAKE MONEY, Let me be one of first to welcome you to the new twist in the hunting world.

DDY who cares if they get mad it a long list of people wanting that information and those that drew this year will be 20 years older before they draw again. Whats on the cam's now isn't a drop in the bucket to what can and will be out there, This service will be aimed at NR who will be appling for tags in hard to draw units. You bet the information will sell.

 

[feduptwo]

Isn't technology great. you all talk about these scouting cameras like its the first thing we've invented to create a unfair advantage. If I had my way I would severly restrict 4 wheelers, long range shooting systems, and all the electronic gadgets. I would also close every road in Western United states that wasn't a county or state maintained road during hunting season (of course i would have certain areas exemt for handicap and senior hunters). If we as hunters policed ourselves we could continue to have long seasons, enjoy healthy herds and have a ton of opportunity but I'm afraid we've started down a long slippery slope that our herds will never regain from without severe restrictions in hunter take. Add to the mix unchecked populations of large predators and its spells doomsday for our sport as we know it. Oh well I guess we'll enjoy it will it lasts
Eric,

 

[tooele]

I know everyone doesn't agree, but my opinion is that they are unethical toward deer and other animals, should be forbiden for hunting and that if we don't police ourselves someone else certainly will, and I will support them in their effort.

t

 

[trueblu]

wow, i cant even believe that someone would call road hunters or atv riders lazy hunters compared to trail cam users. trail cams take laziness to the next level. at least atv guys accually have to be out in the mountains, not on their a$$ at home checking their e-mail scouting for deer. i say they make great targets to shoot at. obviously if someone is willing to leave their belongings out in the mountains in a tree they know the risk of them getting destroyed.

 

[feduptwo]

In my opinion 4 wheelers are the anti-christ of my hunting heritage. Everyone says they use them responsibly but every year I see more and more area tracked up where they weren't supposed to be. Maybe the 10% is just growing?
I use trail cams and I still have to hike to put them out,so I have to be out on the mountain to put them out. I could ride a 4 wheeler to most of the locations I set them out but I'd rather just walk? screw it.

 

[moneyman]

I would love to catch some loser messing with one of my cameras.

SQUEEEELLLLL LIKE A PIG, BOY!

 

[moneyman]

Trail cameras are unfair to the animals but a .300 Ultramag with a 14x scope shooting computer designed bullets at 500 yards (measured with a laser range finder capable of +_ 2 yards and calculating the inclination and bullet drop) is fair?

LOSER.

 

[feduptwo]

I think their is a level of unfairness in it all. I mean in the 60's the heyday of hunting how many people had scoped rifles? I think the long range shooting is especially dangerous because about 5% of the people that buy the video have the ability to shoot good enough to be effective long range shooters. The other 90% of us will end up with a bunch of legs blown off and cripples.
Back to the post scouting cameras are fun but i don't believe that it would ever get as bad as what is mentioned in this post. on public land you'd have too many problems with vandalism and theft to make it affordable.

 

[ddy58]

I dont see how any lazy fat ass riding a quad with a cooler full of beer on back can call anyone lazy.

I hike 6 hours one way to set up cameras in places Ive never seen another person. You could hike up there to shoot it off the tree but you would have get off your ATV. But then your atrophied legs wouldnt be able to get half way there.

And unless your literally hunting your back yard, you cant retrieve the pics without hiking out again to pick up the Card.

And lastly what is more invasive. A guy riding his quad to get as close as he can to get pics and scattering deer for miles. Or a camera hanging on a tree that takes a pic with the deer hardly noticing.

Just my 2 cents

 

[AWHOLELOTTABULL]

Good post! I do think that you are over reacting a bit. Just like a few have mentioned, you still have to hunt to kill the big one. It's just another scouting technique. I know ranchers in Kansas that have satelite cameras set up on their property. These cameras transmit their signal back to their computers. They can actually click on the camera they want to look at at any given minute and see what is in front of their camera while they are sitting at their desk. It's pretty cool. Myself...I have 9 cameras out as we speak on public land. It allows me to see what's out there. Personally I don't think it's cheating. I am sure that there are a few traditional archers that would say a compound bow with an 80% let off, sites, and a range finder is cheating too. For me, it's just growing with the times. Just remember, you still have to hunt!

www.awholelottabull.com

 

[Gator]

It not cheating, I just think as more of these type of camera's are put into use you will have less big deer getting pass them, and there will be a market for those who don't scout right now, As DD says he hikes in 6 miles, but if he had the new setup he would be able to see what was there from his den at the house, Maybe even sell a few pictures to those quad riders.