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i got this picture in an email today and thought i would share it with you all. this is the exact email that i got with it. i dont know anything else about this bull. but what a monster!

When officially measured by SCI in 60 days, this will be the new world record for a typical elk.The current score done by an SCI Master Measurer is 525 typical and 546non-typical. It will number 1 typical and number 4 non-typical. Forgetit's score and look at the mass of each point and you will realize how unique this bull rely is. I shot him at the Broad mouth Canyon Ranch in Idaho on August 18. It was a challenging hunt on horse back and foot in the middle of the Black Foot Mountains of Idaho. Priceless!!


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"Shoot Straight"
 
Absolute monster indeed. But something smells VERY fishy??? I will say there are some truly giant bulls that have come of Broadmouth in the past but the email sounds fishy to me???
 
This bull is on B&C Trophy Watch website stating it was shot on a high fence ranch in Idaho.
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-15-10 AT 06:57PM (MST)[p]Yes, it is a high fence bull. Pretty impressive nonetheless at 525". This pic does not do it justice.
 
hey thanks apollo, that one picture that i had really doesnt do the bull justice! still an awesome bull. too bad its a high fence kill.





"Shoot Straight"
 
Yeah awesome bull but its just not the same though.
Its like people pulling huge fish from Private waters it just doesn't seem as cool.... But ya smoker bull for sure
 
That bull is "ok" it's lacking a little in the "mass" category. I can't believe Mossback didn't buy that bull and turn him loose on Monroe for a repeat?? I bet Mossback will be giving that ranch owner a call next year to get one of those GPS chipped bulls for one of their high dollar customers.
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-16-10 AT 00:11AM (MST)[p]I'm not a fan of high fence hunts but that bull is ridiculous. Its pretty amazing that they can do that with genetics alone, most people think the high fence ranches pump the bucks/bulls with all sorts of steroids/hormones to get huge racks but thats not the case. Great genetics + Great feed + Age = Huge animals!!!
 
@NV4life- "most people think the high fence ranches pump the bucks/bulls with all sorts of steroids/hormones to get huge racks but thats not the case."
You are familiar with the operations of ALL high-fenced ranches I take it...?? I've been up to Broadmouth Ranch in the Weber Valley in Utah at feeding time for the animals there. They are fed like cattle. Cattle are fed hormones and such. It is impossible to know if they are, or are not, giving the animals steroids and such... No one can know except the operators... And we all know there are shady operators.
This is why I respect B&C scoring and records as they don't recognize fenced animals- and neither should true sportsmen...

This bull is literally UNBELIEVABLE


"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 
I beleive the guy is wearing a Broadmouth Ranch hat now that you mention it. All I can say is a high fenced bull is just like the 1000 pound hog at the fair, simply a result of its enviroment.
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-16-10 AT 02:25PM (MST)[p]@RoidRage (BrowningRage) - Like I said I'm not a fan of hight fenced hunts and will never support them. No I am not involved or know the processes in this ranch, I have done research and talked to some of the big deer breeders.

What I should have said was 'most' don't pump there stock with steroids. A lot of the big whitetail ranches do not pump their critters with steriods and hormones, they want a healthy deer that will live long. They can produce huge genitic bucks by using a doe from 200"+ buck and breeding them with huge bucks. Once they have their ranch full of geneticly picked does and huge bucks for breeding stock they don't need the roids or hormones.

I take it your a cattle rancher, you know every cattle ranch pumps there stock full of steroids and hormones?
 
A ranch hunt is like a whooore house........ they both would cheapen the experience for me! To each his own but not my cup of tea.

Honestly, I'm not sure I would hunt a bull like that even if YOU paid my way. I would be ashamed to show it off unless I had a handicap.

I'd rather see a 290" bull that some guy takes off the Manti after he busts his azz to do so! THAT'S HUNTING!

Check out the guy from SoCal that came to Ut and bow killed a great bull. That's hunting!

Just my opinion though.
Zeke

PS: Cool bull anyway but he can keep it!
 
Ya i gotta agree with zeke on this one. I don't get why you would want to shoot a tame animal.

Even if he was that huge. The fun part of hunting is finding the animals, and working hard to do it.

Cool bull though! ha
 
I'm not for high fence hunts for the reasons stated above. But in my grandpa's case it was a very good thing! He has hunted hard all his life, taking some huge bucks! He was never able to kill anything over a spike bull. He is retired and can't get around very good anymore. My uncle took him on this elk hunt and he had an absolute blast! In that case they are a good thing! When people try to play them off as wild is wrong.

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LAST EDITED ON Sep-16-10 AT 09:34PM (MST)[p]No difference in that high fence hunt and the rich guy called in to shot huge animals that are found by the big business guides! Both walk in and shot. Funny how some think great for the rich guy that waits for the call to pull the trigger on free range animal. Same people bag on high fence hunts. I'm against both. What bull cost more to "hunt" this one or spider?
 
Lord have mercy that thing is huge. He's not ever going to be in the class of the wild bulls, but I just want to know how much that rack weighs? I would love to have those sheds in my collection.



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what is worse some rich guy paying to shoot an elk on a private ranch or some rich guy out in the wild with all the latest and greatest stuff messing everything up for the average Joe. In my opinion ranches like this are doing sportsman a favor by keeping all the out of state people off public land. Sure its a high fence operation but who cares. I too don't like when people try to say its wild when its not but I am sure most of the ranches are just trying to make a living and don't try to hide what they are doing.
 
Ranch bull or not I still like looking at those horns. What Mass. It goes to show what could be done to the herds in the wild with genetic and age and feed.

The belief that these bulls are feed growth hormones are just crap.
I have seen 1st year bulls have 4x4 antlers and others are just spikes and 3 years later they both have the same size racks alot of that is because of the cow and how ell she does in the eating dept. and if she was breeded early or late in the season how hard the winter is on her well she is carrying, those cows that get a jump on building up the calf in her womb will beat that cow who gets breed right before a hard winter and her calf will show it in the spring it will take that bull calf awhile to catch back up to the others. Now this is just MHO.

Balance feed is what they do they try and keep the protein at a good level they don't use sub-standard feed they use they same type feed the dairy farmers feeding the high price stuff with a supplant of minerals that is needed to grow bigger antlers.(same stuff you see in ads for growing bigger racks) most of that stuff just isn't abundance in the wild.
Have never seen it happening or heard of it happening in the ranch raised elk circle of ranchers where some-one is feeding growth hormones(would grow bigger bodies too) to grow bigger antlers(they do put out as much natural minerals as possible) they do put out as many mineral blocks as they can so they get all the want just like we do for our cattle. Yes I have several friends that raise Elk and it a small world of people who do raise elk and they do talk to each other about doing the raising. They do the same thing a cattle rancher does they bred the best bull they can to the best cows they own and it takes years for their program to pay off in getting a bull like that.
On the cattle side we are in the 16th year of selected breeding of a line of purebreed cattle. So it not a overnight thing.

No I wouldn't shoot a bull that is on a ranch raised elk farm but I still love seeing what a good selected breeding program can do to a animal I love hearing and seeing.


"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
High fence operations ethics

My problem lies with the hugh fence operations where there is no actual way to seclude their herd from wild, free ranging herds. I know for actual, real life true experiences where wild elk repeatedly get in with the domestic herd so they "the ranch" contacts the DWR and they shoot the wild animals because of contamination. Why do you think not all elk have tags in their ears on these high fence operations. Once again I have known instances where the domestic herds have been able to escape out of high fence operations in good numbers. No, the animals were not tagged and no, they never were recaptured; so, yes they are now free ranging animals.

I do believe that some will not believe these claims that does not bother me. I guess the saying goes: "It is what it is."

God bless, shoot straight and use ethics so you can stand up straight when the childrren look up to you.
 
Hoseback hunt? Challenging? Where is the grain bucket!

TICK
TALL, WIDE, AND HANDSOME
 
someone earlier i the post said it would be cool if one jumped the fence and spead his genes around... i also agree... it would be cool to get some of those horns growing around out here... but i also heard thats where cwd began to flourish and then spread to other wildlife because some did get out and in the end they had to be shot..
idk, can any one support or deny this?
 

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