littlehunter, I sent you a PM. Hopefully it will help. These guys are right. Spend a lot of time really glassing brushy pockets. I call them eyebrows, places that are too steep for farmers to to harvest. I have seen people walk within 50 of deer down there and they just lay there. But once they get in the open it is very difficult to connect. You are more likely to find mule deer by the river, stay up on top. Drive around east of Colfax, there are many "feel free to hunt" areas. I also think you should have no problem finding a 4 point. Good Luck.