Another NV 400"

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A friend sent this to me, do you really think this is 400?, it looks a little like trick photography to me?
 
Wow! What a brute. That is one awesome looking bull.
Check out the fronts on this bad boy.
Congrats.



ELDORADO
 
The other Gov Tag Bull. 408 gross 402 Net nt, 403 gross typ 388 net typ. The Guide was Timberline Outfitters.
 
Doesnt look like a trick to me. Awesome bull, well worthy of any gov tag. The fronts are amazing.
 
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The guy in the middle is Thomas Brunson owner of Timberline Outiftters. No affiliation to mossback.

And yes it is over 400 - 18, 21, 16, 22, 17 and big beams...408 gross. No need to stretch the tape to boost egos, these guys kill big bulls every year.
 
are gov tags even fair?
they should have a special record book for these guys, instead of them being able to just hop out of a truck and shoot any elk they want, opposed to the rest of us, that have to put in for a unit, and maybe get a good tag once in a life time if that, then we have to scout, and hike, and pack everything back out. these gov tags are way to easy for these guys to Kill gaint animals with little or no effort.
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-01-10 AT 05:24PM (MST)[p]Welcome to monstermuleys gripit...you'll fit right in.

Also the Record Book was designed to record the management of the animal not the hunter. Something people have forgot over the years.
 
Thomas shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as mossback. He runs a fair chase guide business, nothing like the mossback hunts.
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-01-10 AT 05:42PM (MST)[p]+1 bearman, Brunson is first class all the way, they kill big animals year in and year out in areas that have been on the decline, yet they still kill big stuff. Congrats to the hunter its nice to see a gov. tag hero shot with a guide and sub guide oppose to half of southern utah in the pic.
 
maybe its just the agle of the pic, the people are not that small compared to the elk's head.
 
gripit - I don't know if your just trying to stir $##%, but that bull is 400. You have 4 posts to your name and your calling out a reputable guide and advertiser on this site...seems suspect to me.
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-02-10 AT 12:06PM (MST)[p]gripit is right..they are back a ways..unless they are all midgets...call it "trick photography" or whatever..but call it like it is.

Why the slam on mossback?
 
I love how you guys think every thing is "trick photography", no need for a trick here since I was the guy that put a tape on the bull and was there to pack him off the mountain, maybe trick photography is how you guys do it to make your ego sky rocket, but thats not case here. The bull does score 408 and 5/8 gross green and nets an even 402 and 0/8 green, we will see after the 60 day dry period what the final score will be. So if you score guys think you can do better by looking at a picture on the computer then more power to ya because the folks that were around when the bull hit the dirt know the truth. Get a life guys and maybe grow up a little. Thanks to you who helped with locating and packing this monster off the mountain and congrats again to the hunter!
 
Congrats huge bull lets hear the story and where in nevada you got this big boy.........Thanks
 
gripit sounds like a guy called arizonahunter, I saw several emails from this week. I think this is equivalent to saying you should not to go to a nice restaurant and be seated by a hostess, waited on and served good food in a nice atmosphere. You should only eat beef you slaughtered by yourself, or at best, eat at some fast food dump, with no services provided and clean your own table. Just because you can afford that kinda service, you should not do it, it might make some other person jealous.
How funny it always comes back to Mossback? They are the most successful, so the most rumors fly around with never anything substantial to back any of it up.. The guys spreading these rumors sound so petty! I bet if they hit the lotto they would be the first ones buying auction tags and calling Mossback!
As far as judging the score on that bull, maybe you should take a long hard look at the "Bull" and compare the antlers to it and not the guys in the photo. This method will give you a lot better success at judging a score, than worrying about midgets and smoke and mirrors.
Another thing that maybe you could stop and think about, is all the money that is spent in the communities that benefit from these "GUIDES" scouting for weeks on end. They buy gas and food, and services to numerous to mention here, from these towns in the hunting units. I bet the proprietors in these places are not moaning about the revenue that these tags generate for them. I think that even you are benefitting in some way, whether you realize it or not? That would be the improved services that the State has provided for you, with the funds from these tags, not to mention the hours of entertainment you are getting out of complaining about them!
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-03-10 AT 11:26AM (MST)[p]Gripit

Im in no way an expert on scoring bulls. But here is my take I think if I can guess a bull within 30" of the correct score im doing good. I only really look at the photo presence. meaning is it symmetrical, does it stand out, is it abnormal, is it unique, would I shoot it.

If a hunter asks what his bull scores ill throw out a score. If someone else asks and is not the shooter. Then i usually don't want to get involved.

but here is one to compare for yourself. It looks awesome all the way around and the score on it says 386. to me it looks legit and looks impressive but so does the bull in the above photo. in the end I don't care about score on either of these bulls because id shoot either one on any unit any where with any weapon.


386 gross/net? dont remember and dont care its awesome
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408 gross
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I do know one thing nets are for fish and ill take gross score any day. nets are for fish


There are no big bucks in Utah! LOL

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It looks like GOOD photography to me. Get behind them, like that, and show them off!

Some people's kids shouldn't have access to a computer!

Great bull! Congrats to the hunter and guide.

Zeke
 
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>A friend sent this to me,
>do you really think this
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What a giant!! Whats up with his nose? Is it dirt or is the fur rubbed off?
 
Droptine45

I was looking at the nose too. I scrolled up to another photo and the nose looks fine. Must be a leaf in the way of that pics.
Looks weird though but only in that photo, other look fine.

Still one heluva bull!

Zeke
 
Thats what it looked like to me. When I first seen the pic I thought they must of cut down a tree for the pic.
 
Great bull guys. I know that Nevada has cut back the tags over the last two years and have turned a lot of area into wilderness. So, hopefully Nevada is back on the way up again like it was in the late 90's. I have 15 elk points there and will be looking to get back in there to hunt in the next couple of years. Congrats and great photos.
 
i am suspect because i just signed up, with a question?
and i dont have a lot of post like other people, whom most of their posts are "great bull" and that makes them a expert on big bulls because they have more posts. i wasnt calling anybody out, i was simply asking a question, and playing a little devils advacate. I am sorry i pissed so many people off, but isnt that how people learn, by asking? thanks for the good advise from those who gave it. and congrates to the outfitters and Hunter who killed this bull, it sounds like we now have some good references to confirm that this bull is actually a 400 bull, i am just so sick of hearing how many Bulls over 400 are taking every year out of Nevada, and i dont believe it, the record book only show a handfull, and i hear about more than a handfull that are supposivly killed each year.
 
Great bull! It doesnt matter if it scores 400 or not it is one sweet bull.

Hey Gripeit.....if your so sick of hearing how many 400" bulls come out of nevada then dont come to sites like this...you say you dont believe it because they are not in the record books, well maybe not everyone is hung up on the record book, maybe not every 400" bull gets put in the record book. I know i have some muleys that would no doubt make the book...i dont care if they are in there or not so i dont. Not everyone is hung up on seeing their name in some book.
Its a 'another' great Nevada bull that i have no doubt scores 400"!!
From what i hear about Thomas from people that have had first hand experience with him is that he is one of the most upstanding hard working guides you will ever come across. If he says it scores 400" then it scores 400".
 
Having someone sign up to post a pic and say ?A friend sent this to me, do you really think this is 400?, it looks a little like trick photography to me?? does seem suspect, people sign up to stir the pot and start crap all the time. If you've ever been hunting elk in eastern Nevada you would know those Ely boys take this stuff serious. There is a lot of competition with the guides over there. Maybe think about how you ask your questions next time, maybe ?Got this from a friend. I heard its over 400, what do you guys think?? something like that would have gone over a lot better then the way you came across. Also coming back with the same comments after several people posted up about the bull being 400 made you seem like you were here just to stir it up.

I had heard about this bull hitting the dirt the day it was shot, I knew about this bull several days before they killed it. I've known Thomas my whole life, I grew up with him and his family and I have hunted with him to many times to count.

I will agree that there is said to be a lot more 400? bulls killed every year than actually are. I hear from a lot of people that hunt Nevada say ?I saw 10 400? bulls and 15 200? bucks?just couldn't kill one? or ?my cousin?s brother in-law?s nephew killed a 420? bull.?, I just take it with a grain of salt. With that sait, its pretty easy to tell from a pic if a bull is close to 400 or not, and the bull in question has everything it takes to get there.
 
In most area's they have raised the tags. We have been working for four years to get the elk numbers raised but are unable too get it done with the ranchers having political control.
 
>LOL!! its a tree stump.


Trick photography!

Nevada doesn't have any tree stumps that big. I hear people say the stumps are that big over there but I've never seen one. LOL oh hell I think I'm funny!

Zeke
 
no i have never been hunting in eastern NV, nor could i afford a guide, i will do my best to word my questions better for now on.
awh hell... no I wont this is to much fun!
 

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