LOTS OF BROKEN BULLS?

[B_BOP_A_LU_LU]

Spent time in 3 LE Units within the last 1-1/2 Months!
I've noticed more broken points than normal/usual this Fall.
Also some of the Hottest September Weather for the Rut I've ever seen!
Just wondering what other Hunters were seeing in LE Units?

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[one_dryboot]

Didnt see many big bulls on the stick hunt but Lots of busted bulls during rifle-muzz. Also there seems to be alot of bulls with short 5ths this year, especially down south. If you look at alot of the bigger bulls killed on MM, they grew Very short 5's???

 

[justr_86]

I've noticed more broken tined bulls this year too. Had a couple conversations about it with outfitter friends too.

 

[bergy]

Lots of broken bulls. Probably because there are so few cows on some of the Units due to the DWR issue hundreds/thousands of cow tags every single year......... Utah DWR, mismanagement at its finest!

 

[dleonard4]

just got back from the monroe almost every mature bull we saw was busted after passing on a couple really nice busted bulls 6 days into the hunt we decided to take the biggest bull we saw wich was also busted.

 

[B_BOP_A_LU_LU]

Well dleonard4?
What'd ya get?

I love not acting my age,
Damn I love my NASCAR race,
And Hell yes I love my Truck!

 

[HorseCreek]

Lots of broken bulls during the archery on Monroe...one completely broken off right main beam after his second. The small 5ths have been consistent for the last few years IMO.
Traditional only >>>------->

 

[logslinger]

I hear you can't see the sky for all the buzzards flying around. Eating on all of the wounded elk that the archers left to rot in the field. Maybe BBop all of the broken points are from archers errant shots!!!!

 

[one_dryboot]

Very good point Logslinger!!!

I also think that Genetics are on the downhill because of Archers. Hell those stick flippers are the main cause of GLOBAL WARMING! Damn, we shoulda elected John Kerry cuz he's right

 

[Elkhunter96]

On the books, I did not see one broken bull during the archery hunt. Probably because each small 5x5 or raghorn had 10+ plus cows each. The big bulls had 20-40 cows each. It may have been the late rut, but I felt there were not enough bulls for the amount of cows on that unit.

Of course, on the Pahvant in 2009 muzzy hunt, it was the exact opposite. Saw plenty of broken tines and there were not enough cows to go around. In my opinion, spike hunts are killing the bulls off the books and way too many cows tags are being issued for units like the Pahvant. But what do I know, I don't work for the DWR...

 

[joesikora]

Great Post Guys.
Are any of you in a contact with Utah DWR,specially the outfitters?I've been gaining points for 6 years now and I'd hate to think when I finally draw my Bull tag I'd have to settle for a sub-par or broken-up Bull.

Also I've heard the same thing about the AZ Bulls being busted up later in the season(after the bow hunts).Is this the same cause of limited cows?

Let me know.

Thanks Joe.

"Sometimes you do things wrong for so long you think their right"

-Joe E Sikora

 

[hunter567]

Agreed,
Way too may cows are being killed. We need to do away with some of the late cow hunt and limit the stick flippers to spikes only for the general season.

 

[one_dryboot]

>Agreed,
>Way too may cows are being
>killed. We need to
>do away with some of
>the late cow hunt and
>limit the stick flippers to
>spikes only for the general
>season.

Thats a terrible Idea!!! we Shold limit them to hunting bunny's and squirels. They can hunt anything that produces in bulk. but no antlered game

 

[rugarm77]

B-Bopper I have seen a lot of broken Bulls to. I think all the arrows stuck in them makes up for the broken parts. One bull looked like a 3D target running around the mountain.

 

[AWHOLELOTTABULL]

Hot is an understatement! I don't think I ever remember a hotter September hunting season. It was mid 80's in camp and lows in the high 40's and 50's at night. We got some reprieve this last week but it's been miserably hot. That combined with a full moon for most of the rifle season and muzzy season made it really tough.

I did see a bunch of broken bulls. Mostly the bigger bulls. I did see A LOT of elk this year though. Numbers are good.


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[mountainhunter]

I just got back from SW WY. My B-I-L had a tag. I was shocked how many of the bigger bulls were busted up. We found a main beam that had been broken off below the sword tine laying on the ground while hunting. One of the bulls we saw had long brow tines and busted off above that on both sides.

 

[Deerlove]

My buds Lasal rifle bull had it's fronts missing.

 

[dleonard3]

Here's the bull I got on the Monroe Muzzle loader hunt. I've got video of this bull the last day of the early rifle hunt, and he wasn't broken then. When I found him again on the first afternoon of my muzzle loader season, he was broke. I passed on him then, but my son (dleonard4) and others in camp sure gave me a rash about it. We slept in the wood with him that night and heard him fighting hard again with another bull - lots of screaming and antler smashing. We hunted our guts out and only found one bull that might have been bigger, but he was on private property we didn't have access to. When I ran into this bull again on Sunday the 3rd, I couldn't resist anymore. My son guided me in to a great position where we could watch and set up for a shot if it presented itself, and I made two good shots. I'll spare you the details of the kill, but we got it done.

 

[Zeke]

dleonard3,
Sweet bull. Broken or not it's a beauty! congrats!

B-BOP,
I spent most of the rifle hunt on the Wasatch elk unit and didn't see one broken bull! Maybe a tip missing here and there but no bad breaks. Possibly the bulls are all whimps and won't fight or maybe there are plenty of cows to go around. I don't know because we saw way more bulls than cows.

I probably saw 3 bulls for every cow but where we hunt this is the normal. Might be a "bull testing area". I don't understand all the dynamics of the rut.

Hot, hot, hot, Yes and wind and smoke and a FULL moon. The best time to hunt would have been at 2AM!

Zeke