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Hanson
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Just on average what do you think a hind quarter weighs? Boned out and with bone.
Outdoordan
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Here you go. All the information you need about elk carcass weights.
http://ces.uwyo.edu/PUBS/B594R.pdf
http://ces.uwyo.edu/PUBS/B594R.pdf
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Hanson
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That is perfect. Thanks!
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dleonard4
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the head with the horns and cape attatched is the worst. You can cape the face off and cut the skull plate. However either way its alot of work.
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Sweet rain gear dleonard...
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dleonard4
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-06-10 AT 02:04PM (MST)[p]the funny thing is i actually had some nice rain gear back at camp. But it was blue sky when we left camp I guess thats hunting. The bags were to line my pack but Sometimes you have to improvise.
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bearman
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Bone in front or rear are the same average of 145lbs. Cape 50lbs horns are around 40lbs for a 350 bull.
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all i know is it took 2 guys to pick up one moose hind quarter and one horse to pack 2 hind quarters out
The harder you work the luckier you get!!
The harder you work the luckier you get!!
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bearman, where did you come up with those numbers? I packed out a front and hind quarter off a small 6x6 this year and combinded they were probably not even 100 lbs. I know the upper leg bones on my 345 bull was not much more than 15 lbs.
I don't think there's ever been an elk with 145 lbs quarters. Besides the rear quarters are at least 25% heavier than a front quarter IMHO.
Just currious what kind of elk you've been hunting
Cheers,
Pete
I don't think there's ever been an elk with 145 lbs quarters. Besides the rear quarters are at least 25% heavier than a front quarter IMHO.
Just currious what kind of elk you've been hunting
Cheers,
Pete
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Doesn't it depend on what you consider a hind quarter? When some guys say hind quarter they mean that literally...an animal carcass cut into 4 huge pieces. When I hear hind quarter I think of a rear leg only.
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Hanson
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I was refering to just the leg portion of the hind quarter and not the animal divided into 4 pieces. Good info. though.
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My cow this year (mature cow, probably the size of most young bulls) weighed 195 lbs. That was whole legs above the hocks, and the loose meat except for the back strap and tenderlion. The loose meat took up about 1/2 of a 5 gallon bucket, hanging next to the quarters. I figure the backstraps and tenderloins were about 15 lbs total. If I had help, and more time, I think I could have gotten a little more meat off of the carcass, and had I made a better shot, I would have had about 4 lbs more in the back straps.
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180 split 60/40 is 108/72 or 54 and 36 lbs for the front and rear legs. I left the lower legs on while carrying it out for easier handling at camp. I figure the 60/40 split is a pretty good estimate of the weights.
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210 - 30 (loose meat and tenderloins)
180 split 60/40 is 108/72 or 54 and 36 lbs for the front and rear legs. I left the lower legs on while carrying it out for easier handling at camp. I figure the 60/40 split is a pretty good estimate of the weights.
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bearman
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I have packed out many elk and weighted them at home and that is an average. That is true quarters, cut at the third rib. When taken like that the fronts are almost exactly the same as the rear. My biggest bull was 175lbs a quarter. I would like to know what kind of elk your hunting, small ones I would guess! By your numbers the elk you kill weigh around 300lbs. You sure your not killing deer.LMAO
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>I have packed out many elk
>and weighted them at home
>and that is an average.
>That is true quarters, cut
>at the third rib. When
>taken like that the fronts
>are almost exactly the same
>as the rear. My biggest
>bull was 175lbs a quarter.
>I would like to know
>what kind of elk your
>hunting, small ones I would
>guess! By your numbers the
>elk you kill weigh around
>300lbs. You sure your not
>killing deer.LMAO
You must be hauling the guts out with them too at that weight. Read the Wyoming study.
At 175lbs per quarter you are saying that your elk weighed in at 700lbs field dressed? Are you splitting the head in 1/2 to haul part of it with each quarter? Are you skinning it at all?
Per the study the average bull elk weighs in at under 600lbs live weight. Skinned carcass weight with the skin and head removed was 332lbs, so 2 of your quarters weighed more than the average bull elk?
Maybe a quarter to you is a half? That sounds about right if that is the case. Otherwise it sounds like your scale is off by about double.
>and weighted them at home
>and that is an average.
>That is true quarters, cut
>at the third rib. When
>taken like that the fronts
>are almost exactly the same
>as the rear. My biggest
>bull was 175lbs a quarter.
>I would like to know
>what kind of elk your
>hunting, small ones I would
>guess! By your numbers the
>elk you kill weigh around
>300lbs. You sure your not
>killing deer.LMAO
You must be hauling the guts out with them too at that weight. Read the Wyoming study.
At 175lbs per quarter you are saying that your elk weighed in at 700lbs field dressed? Are you splitting the head in 1/2 to haul part of it with each quarter? Are you skinning it at all?
Per the study the average bull elk weighs in at under 600lbs live weight. Skinned carcass weight with the skin and head removed was 332lbs, so 2 of your quarters weighed more than the average bull elk?
Maybe a quarter to you is a half? That sounds about right if that is the case. Otherwise it sounds like your scale is off by about double.
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bearman
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-09-10 AT 12:11PM (MST)[p]You may read studies to tell you stuff but I do it. Next year I will take a picture and show you the weight. No thats not the hide on or guts in. If you shot a 600 pound bull you shot small elk. I have weighted many of them and know for a fact what they weigh. If you think a quarter only weighs 50-60 lbs I would love to have you come pack some real meat out. I butcher meat and my scale is not off. Show me some of your pictures of your elk you have been around. Mybe you shoot one to two year old elk!
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bearman
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Thinking about this the study was an average, most likely one year old to ten year old. That could be the average. I was talking about for people that go out to get a trophy not a meat animal. You must have only taken small young bulls. A mature bull doesn't weigh in at 600lbs. Maybe one day you will kill a big bull and have the fun of packing out those quarters. Their are many ways to drop weigh. Take out hind legs cut at ball joint or front cut between shoulder and ribs. If done that way to drop weight to pack out the quarters will weigh less. If you take the animal out in true quarters you will have way more meat!! Lots of people leave neck meat and lots of other good grind meat. Don't act like you know and I don't when I have weighted many elk and killed and been in on many big bull kills.
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So did that 175lbs per quarter include the head and skin or not?
If you use your numbers from earlier at 50lbs for a cape (which is more than the entire skin in the study) and 45lbs for the antlers, then you are saying your field dressed animal weighs 800lbs. Multiply that by 1.42 and you get 1,136lbs for an estimated whole weight that does not include any blood loss at the time of the harvest.
I shot my biggest bull this year. No idea how much he weighed, other than a lot. I quarter and debone in the field and while I would like to think there was 300lbs of meat there, I really doubt it. The study from Wyoming shows the numbers for some elk that were aged at 10 years old that field dressed at 540lbs, which would put their estimated whole weight at 767lbs which is right around where I've always understood a mature bull weighed in between 700 and 800lbs.
If you use your numbers from earlier at 50lbs for a cape (which is more than the entire skin in the study) and 45lbs for the antlers, then you are saying your field dressed animal weighs 800lbs. Multiply that by 1.42 and you get 1,136lbs for an estimated whole weight that does not include any blood loss at the time of the harvest.
I shot my biggest bull this year. No idea how much he weighed, other than a lot. I quarter and debone in the field and while I would like to think there was 300lbs of meat there, I really doubt it. The study from Wyoming shows the numbers for some elk that were aged at 10 years old that field dressed at 540lbs, which would put their estimated whole weight at 767lbs which is right around where I've always understood a mature bull weighed in between 700 and 800lbs.
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I did weigh the neck roasts from my bull this year as I was butchering it. They were 13lbs each. I don't grind the neck meat, I think it makes the best roasts by far.
I do plan on starting to bring my scale with me so I can start weighing my backpack when I haul a load back to camp. I weigh all the whitetail deer and pigs that I shoot and it would surprise most people what they actually do weigh on the hoof. It generally is not near as much as people think.
I do plan on starting to bring my scale with me so I can start weighing my backpack when I haul a load back to camp. I weigh all the whitetail deer and pigs that I shoot and it would surprise most people what they actually do weigh on the hoof. It generally is not near as much as people think.
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bearman
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Well this is the last post I will do on this as I know for a fact what they weight and I'm not going to get in any more of a pissing match. I have been in on many bulls between 380-417. I don't know how to get pictures up under a post so I will put some up under a new post.
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bearman
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I just read your post Field judging elk with 30x scope and by body size. Then about going home and taping that keg "your wife". Very nice how old are you? Glassing with 30x and judging elk by body size says all I need to know about what kind of hunter you are>LMAO
>Well this is the last post
>I will do on this
>as I know for a
>fact what they weight and
>I'm not going to get
>in any more of a
>pissing match. I have been
>in on many bulls between
>380-417. I don't know how
>to get pictures up under
>a post so I will
>put some up under a
>new post.
I think we're talking average bulls but I could be wrong. If your average elk are 380-417 then you are high fencing it. You also said cut behind the 3rd rib which is what I would do if I was loading it from the road into the back of your truck by myself, not hauling it out on a packframe. You could very well be talking 175 lb quarters under those conditions.
>I will do on this
>as I know for a
>fact what they weight and
>I'm not going to get
>in any more of a
>pissing match. I have been
>in on many bulls between
>380-417. I don't know how
>to get pictures up under
>a post so I will
>put some up under a
>new post.
I think we're talking average bulls but I could be wrong. If your average elk are 380-417 then you are high fencing it. You also said cut behind the 3rd rib which is what I would do if I was loading it from the road into the back of your truck by myself, not hauling it out on a packframe. You could very well be talking 175 lb quarters under those conditions.
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bearman
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No high fence hunting and we haul all of the meat out!! Yes they weight just what I said they do! Look at the pictures I posted for you.
>No high fence hunting and we
>haul all of the meat
>out!! Yes they weight just
>what I said they do!
>Look at the pictures I
>posted for you.
Hauling and packing can mean very different things as we have learned in this post. It's pretty simple to haul "all" of the meat out when you can drive a truck to them. We may have originally been talking about using a backpack and hiking out of the mountains with it but again, I could be wrong.
>haul all of the meat
>out!! Yes they weight just
>what I said they do!
>Look at the pictures I
>posted for you.
Hauling and packing can mean very different things as we have learned in this post. It's pretty simple to haul "all" of the meat out when you can drive a truck to them. We may have originally been talking about using a backpack and hiking out of the mountains with it but again, I could be wrong.
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bearman
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It can mean very different things. We do it the same if it is on our back or truck. That is I used to now I get my big dumb friends to pack for me, or find a way to get to it.
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ELKTAPER
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I would think that making a statement about your friends being big and dumb, would WEIGHT on your mind. Maybe you should be nicer to them?
for the ones with questions about moose, i have packed out 16 moose as of now and i always figure it as 7 loads of close to 120 pounds/average per moose. a big hind is probably 130 without the skin and leg cut at the knee. fronts are probably 100 and then another 2 loads of loose meat and then skull plate and cape as the last load. thats a lot of meat!!!
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Dear Zigga,
We went on for way to long because you thought you knew what you where talking about. Enough is enough shut up about me! One day when you grow up you may kill some bigger animals and know what you are talking about until then stop talking.
Love and kisses,
pearman
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All this about 175 lb hind quarters.
Thanks Hanson
Dear Zigga,
We went on for way to long because you thought you knew what you where talking about. Enough is enough shut up about me! One day when you grow up you may kill some bigger animals and know what you are talking about until then stop talking.
Love and kisses,
pearman
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All this about 175 lb hind quarters.
Thanks Hanson
Another one!
Dear Zigga,
Do you know when to shut up! How old are you? My guess would be around nineteen or twenty. You sure are acting your age. Sure I claimed my elk hind quarters were larger than an Alaskan Yukon moose. The trick is to cut the hind quarters behind the ear. Good luck and you are my idol.
I love you,
pearman
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Dear Zigga,
Do you know when to shut up! How old are you? My guess would be around nineteen or twenty. You sure are acting your age. Sure I claimed my elk hind quarters were larger than an Alaskan Yukon moose. The trick is to cut the hind quarters behind the ear. Good luck and you are my idol.
I love you,
pearman
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