My 2010 Oakcreek Bull Video

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Here is a link to my elk hunt this year. I just got the video from my buddy skyler who filmed the whole thing. Man it was a very challenging hunt with low elk numbers but was very greatful as you will see in the video. I tried to put it on the monster hunt clips site but it said it couldn't pull the url up for the video. But here is the link enjoy!
 
Hey nv_mulies,
I was really enjoying watching your hunt until you got to the part where you said you shot at another bull at 600 yards "which was too far" and hit it but couldn't locate it. As many have commented in the past this new trend of shooting at any distance in "hopes" that you can make a kill is a real problem in our sport. I hope that in the future you will never take such a shot again. A great hunt, but in my opinion tarnished by your early miscalculation.
 
Sorry but I have to agree. Makes me kinda sick to hear how not bothered you were by shooting a bull 600 yards away and then simply not being able to find him. Should have punched your tag.
 
You know guys, we can criticize all want. And yes I totally agree, taking a shot beyond your limits on a living, breathing, animal with hopes of getting lucky is unethical practice. But at the same time I'll be the first to admit I too have lost animals in my time of hunting. One being a cow elk when I was 14, she was on a trot at 200 yards or so and I hit her far back and track her until night fall, lost blood and came up empty. Another was an archery bull that I hit in the shoulder and wasn't able to find after too days of looking. Did I feel sick to my stomach about these things, hell yes I did. But at the same time I learned some valuable lessons from these events. What I hope is Nv_mulies has learned the same lesson. As far as not feeling bad about it during the time of the kill... I think most of us are pretty happy and excited after taking a good bull and its hard to go to one extreme to another. Just my thoughts.
Coloradoboy
 
+1 Coloradoboy.
I would dare bet that anyone who has hunted long enough, has lost an animal. We all make mistakes, we have to learn from those mistakes. Did I like the fact he took a 600 yard shot and wounded the elk? Absolutely not! I am not going to get on here and ridicule someone for something I would put money on we have all done. If you haven't lost an animal, good job, but if you hunt long enough the dreaded thing happens.
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-13-11 AT 07:03PM (MST)[p]Let me explain myself,I hunted all 9 days. On the afternoon of day seven we located a bull( and the biggest bull I had seen to that point a decent 5X5) at well over 1/2 a mile away on an open hillside. We stalked in and got as close as we were gonna get as it was wide open with not a tree on the hill. I got set up and ranged the bull at just over 600 yds. I am very sorry for the wounded bull I hit. Was it far? Yes, but when it came to preparing for this hunt I shot my rifle over 250+ times.We have a range that my family shoots at and the farthest range that we shoot is 600 yds. Now when I go to the range I shoot from 100 all the way to 600 yds focusing on 300-600 range. So with that being said, I know where my gun shoots and where to hold out to 600 yards. The one thing I didn't ever shoot in was the wind, and on this day the wind was blowing. Thinking I knew where to hold to ajdust for the wind took a couple shots hitting him far back, stillto this day I am not sure where. Let me tell you I was sick to my stomach to watch this bull go up and over the hill and out of sight. Right then we made our way over to find some blood and sure enough there was blood on the ground so I knew we would have to let him sit over night and go in and find him the next day. I called reinforecements who drove all the way from las vegas in one night to help me find this bull. So, on day 8 at daybreak Five guys made our way up to where I shot and then on to the blood. As we made our way up the hill the blood started to get sparce and soon became a speck or two everytime he would stop. Most of the time we were in the snow so tracking went farely quick. As we made our way to where he bedded for the night the blood started to thin out and soon he stopped bleeding and even got back with his harem and was not seen the rest of the day. We seriously tracked our butts off(he bled for the first half mile and then nothing for the next 2 miles) all day going back and forth and backtracking just to try and find him we literally spent all day looking for this bull and to come up empty handed made sick to my stomach. Searching all day until dark and not finding anything to us signalled that the shot was not fatal, do I know that? No, but when I have five guys who are putting forth the effort to try and recover a wounded bull and not even turnign up another speck of blood after 1/2 a mile and following the whole herds tracks up and down hills and not seeing a track go in a diiferent direction says to me it was probably a flesh wound. If you havn't figured out I am a non resident who spent alot of money to hunt a bull elk and to have this roller coaster of a hunt go on was the last thing I wanted to do.Seriously I hunted my a@$ off. But having good friends who were there to help keep my hopes up was all that I will remember. Am I sorry for the wounded bull? You better believe it I never want to wound anything. But having put forth the money, time and effort to accomplish this I could not go home empty handed but that reality set in that night. To be honest that last moring I wasn't planning on seein or even pulling the trigger as I had seen only a handfull of elk. That last moring we went to a different area and right off the bat we found a spike. I didn't want to shoot a spike but my buddies informed me that I had spent well over $2500+ in food, fuel, lost wages, license and tag and that he will taste tons better than tag soup. So I made the treck to shoot this spike. The rest is what you saw on the video. I am sorry if I offeneded everyone it was not my intentions at all, I am truelly sorry for wounding a bull I truelly tried to locate him all day, and for not acting remorseful, well that was where I was caught in the moment of finally being able to put my hands on a bull. It was bitter sweet because I drew an elk tag in 2007 in NV and on the last day of the hunt I missed a 350 class bull due to bull fever and on this hunt I connected on the last day at 220yds. I am very sorry and have come to the realization that I need to make better judgments before taking that long of a shot.
My appologies
Larry Staley
 
Larry,
You did all the right things after that shot. You are not the first and certainly not the last person to make this mistake. Its just one of those ugly misfortunes one can experience out in the woods. I've seen people wound elk at 700 yards and at 50 yards. I imagine you've learned more than you can explain from your mistake and it will be something you will take into your next hunt. Its just part of growing as hunter. One a side note, you did hunt your ass off and made the most out of a tag most would turn down. Most guys don't have the will power to stay out and hunt 9 days straight without seeing alot of elk. Congrats to you for not giving up and filling your tag.
Coloradoboy
 
Coloradoboy,

Thanks for the understanding. Indeed I have learned alot from this hunt and will continue to learn and I will not make that mistake again. I am grateful for the opprotunity I had to hunt all 9 days, it was hard but I would not give up the memories of the hard times the stressfull times and the joyous times of this memorable hunt. Thanks again for the support and may your hunting ventures this year be successfull.
Larry Staley
 
Nice job. As far as the wounded bull, it hapens. The guys on here giving you a hard time did not hunt hard diligently in your shoes. I wouldn't worry about any critics. Fact is the oak creek south late hunt is one of the most difficult and lowest success hunts in the state. You beat the odds. Nice job. More bulls are wounded and lost with muzzleloaders and bows. Many more unethical shots taken with muzz and bow. If you look at the harvest data you will find that few hunt 9 days on an elk hunt. Therefore unless the critics have been on a full length limited entry elk hunt on a low success area, zip it......
 
Congrats on a nice bull in one of Utahs toughest units! As far as the 600 yard shot I do not agree with, but you said you knew your rifle at that range, and had practiced at that range. To me that is no diff. than an archery hunter at 70 yards or a muzzy hunter at 200 yards. Practice all you want with any weapon, under certain situations, even the best shots will miss. The part of long range shooting that bothers me is the ones who miss by feet, and keep shooting and when there magazine is empty just assume, they had missed and do not even bother on checking if they hit the animal. You put in a good effort to retrieve the animal. Again congrats.
 
LAST EDITED ON Mar-14-11 AT 06:22AM (MST)[p]nice bull. probably should have left the wounded at 600 yards out. i find it interesting some of the long range posts shoot at even #'s such as 600 yards. not 612 or 596 but exactly 600. i may be way off but 75 yards either way could be a few inches in trajectory calculations. also must add after watching the vid. there is a ton of cover. hard to believe you couldn't have closed the gap to 300-400. but i wasn't there. i personally would have stopped after i lost the bull. but i wouldn't have sent off a hail mary shot either. but to each their own good bull !
 
Nv_Mulies,

Great bull on almost any LE unit. I hope to have that same kind of excitement some day when I draw my tag!
kth
 
Nice video thanks for sharing and congrats on the bull! I for one complement you on admitting you took a bad shot and wounded a bull when you could have easily not have mentioned it or edited that part out of the video. Mistakes happens even to the best of us. I think it's awesome you didn't try to cover up you wounding that bull. It's good to see someones is still able to take responsibility for their actions. Once again congrats man!
 
I have to agree- props for admitting what you did to a very tough crowd here on MM. I'll admit I took a crack at a 180" class buck one year at close to 600 yards... I had shot out to 500.. blah blah blah, I did it, and missed clean, in the dirt, under his belly. I have had opportunities and PASSED on these shots since- learned my lesson- hope you do to...
If you had been at 100 yards, these same guys might be raggin on you that you should have punched and all that (it's not the yardage they care about so much- but the wounded animal, which is good concern IMO)... I'm sure a few guys here have also done it. I think having MORE people admit to it really opens our eyes to the number of animals we sportsmen may be wounding, ultimately killing, and not retrieving... So thanks for sharing... Sounds to me like you did all you should have to retrieve it, and he just plain got away...

Great video- The excitement is awesome...!!! And as I posted on Youtube- that bull is a way better trophy than a 300" guess gives him credit- He's a stud...!!



"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 
I think that ALL of us have some things in our past hunting experiences that we would change given the opportunity. Hopefully we learn from them.

Congratulations on a good bull in a very tough unit. You really have to earn what you get there.
 
Just circling back. Since I started this I too wanted to thank you for your frank comments. It helps to put some perspective on things. As most have said we have all made mistakes and taken shots we shouldn't have. I didn't want to come across as holier than thou but instead make the point that 600 yard shots are really low percentage shots aqnd should be avoided by us all.
Maybe I am getting old but I would rather go home with nothing after 9 days of hard hunting than go home knowing I took a low percetage shot and wounded an animal. there is a lot of satisfaction knowing you gave it everthing.

Let me close by saying that is a nice bull you took and it sounds like you worked your butt off for it. Congradulations!
 
>Just circling back. Since I started
>this I too wanted to
>thank you for your frank
>comments. It helps to put
>some perspective on things. As
>most have said we have
>all made mistakes and taken
>shots we shouldn't have. I
>didn't want to come across
>as holier than thou but
>instead make the point that
>600 yard shots are really
>low percentage shots aqnd should
>be avoided by us all.
>
>Maybe I am getting old but
>I would rather go home
>with nothing after 9 days
>of hard hunting than go
>home knowing I took a
>low percetage shot and wounded
>an animal. there is a
>lot of satisfaction knowing you
>gave it everthing.
>
>Let me close by saying that
>is a nice bull you
>took and it sounds like
>you worked your butt off
>for it. Congradulations!

I respect your opinion. But saying a 600 yard shot is a low percentage shot for everyone is false in my opinion. Call me unethical but I did in fact take my bull in wyoming this year at 671 yards. That being said I have a rifle that is capable of the task and I know my abilities as shooter and had confidence in making the shot. I know that long range shooting is a frowned upon practice here on MM's but I am confident in the fact that I put in the necessary amount of time behind my rifle and working up hand-loads for it. I do not feel the shot I made was lucky to any extent as I had zero wind, a solid rest, and a stationary broadside target. This all resulted in a clean one shot kill. And I would bet my bottom dollar I could make that shot 10 times out of 10 in the conditions I had to work with. I feel the reason most people don't make these shots is because they shoot over their abilities as a shooter and they don't posses the proper equipment to make these shots possible.
Coloradoboy
 
Congratulations on a hard hunt! I will just make a couple comments on the long range distances. The first is that he admitted he had "wind" and was "guessing" on hold, even though he had practiced a lot out to 500 yards under good conditions. The second is the previous comment on 671 yards with lots of long distance practice, but that shot was with "no wind"---one helluva big difference and why many feel those long distance shots should be avoided in most instances. Cudos for at least taking a lot of hunt time the next day in your search and getting more people involved in that search. That somewhat made up for the original mistake and your followup comments sealed it IMHO!!!
 
The only animal I have lost was a big bull one year in Wyoming. I hunted hard for that bull till the season closed. I punched my tag after I did not find him. I was not going to punch it on any other elk just him. I am not critisizing you for doing what you did. I don't give a damn about what people say on this forum. The way I feel about your situation is you made an iffy shot and wounded, now you know better. I am not ok with that shot but I am not judging you. You rallied back and make a better ethical shot the second time. Bottom line is I always work my ass off for my game. I make it a point to know my limits. I encourage you to keep that in mind. Sometimes we get wrapped up in the moment and forget what needs to be remembered. Yes we all have lost game and to this date that elk I lost is the last one so far and I hope for the rest of my life. Buena Suerte!
 
I am sick of people handing out lectures on ethics. That is what makes me sick. I am sure he feels bad about it and hindsight is always 20/20. He didnt post this to get a huge lecture. Maybe you should have cut to a scene of you crying under a cedar before all the celebrating and that would have made it better haha. Nice job and nice bull.
 
Nice bull... I was one of the guys in the white Dodge that stopped and took a look just as you were getting back to your trucks. Thanks for sharing the video and the whole story. Congrats again!!!
 

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