2009 utah Muzzy bull

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LAST EDITED ON Apr-20-11 AT 11:27PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Apr-20-11 AT 11:23?PM (MST)

I have always intended to post this bull, but for some reason just never got around to it. Better late than never I guess. Some of the stories have been embelished and the names and places changed to protect the innocent.:)

I like every other Utah native was thrilled to finally draw an Elk tag on a coveted unit. Like everyone else I quickly assembled my team and hit the hills for some preseason scouting. It wasn't the first time I had been on the unit, but it was the first time that I had been there to hunt. Here are a few pics from our scouting trip.
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Notice how I professionally kept any recognizable land marks out of my pictures. We don't want to let too many people in on our secret areas... Anyway, the scouting was a fun time, just becoming familiar with the unit. I was warned that I might not see very many animials in the summer, but not to worry, because once the rut started, the bulls would come out of the wood work.......and they did.

We arrived in my area 5 days before the opener to do some final scouting. When we got there the early rifle elk hunt was still going on, but for the most part, most of the hunters had tagged out. The weather was perfect, with a storm front moving through and overcast skies, the elk were moving all day long. There were literally elk everywhere. We spent as much time on the hill as possible and looked over quite a few animals. We were locating some good bulls, but nothing great.
We hit several of the more popular lookouts and with one day left before the rifle hunt ended, watched as a local guide and his hunter sealed the deal on a 395 inch monster. Not fair! You can't go and shoot that bull with my hunt so close. Anyway here are a few pics of my family that came along to help.
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A few of the bulls we were seeing.

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The elk were in full rut. There were several canyons that we were watching where the elk were bugling non-stop all day long. To say the least, I was having the time of my life and was so excited to actually have a tag in my pocket I was shaking like a Chiwawa (spelled wrong) on a cold day. Then, as hunting goes everything changed in the middle of the night. Our nice overcast weather was replaced by high winds that just would not stop. With the winds the elk took to the timber during daylight hours. We found that they only stayed out in the open for a few minutes at first light and didn't come back out again until right at dark. The failing light made it very hard to judge the size of the bulls that we were able to find. It was at this point that I came to appreciate the difference between good optics and great ones.
It was the day before the opener and I was already frustrated. Where as a few days earlier I was trying to pick a bull from the many, now I was struggling to find one that I would hunt the next day. That frustration was compounded after a fairly fruitless morning, but on the way back to camp we spotted some cows still out feeding two hours after sunrise. In this area where there are cows, there are bulls. Sure enough, after watching them feed for a while a mature bull materialized. We quickly named him the Big Beam bull for obviouse reasons. He had long, wide main beams that were instantly burned into my dreams. Opening morning I was going to go after that bull.
 
Well geez, that was a great leadin! So now where is the body of the report and a picture of the big bugger?
 
I'm with the rest in that we want the second half of the story! You have our interest, great story so far. I hope this has a happy ending!
 
Opening morning found us sidehilling through the thick timber in the dark. The bull and his cows were hanging out in the top of a steep draw several canyons away. The anticipation of being close to the bull was overwhelming as we slowly emerged from the dark timber at first light. The slight role of the hillside made it immpossible to see into the slide that the elk had been using and the high winds made it hard to communicate, let alone hear a bugle. We slowly eased over the ridge and caught sight of cows and calves. He had to be close.
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We slowly moved closer and when we were about 200 yards from the herd, we jumped 3 large bucks from the timber below us. I swear my heart quite beating, but when I looked up the elk had not noticed. For once the gusting winds were in our favor. We continued forward until we were 150 yards above and to the side of the herd and I set my muzzleloader up on my shooting sticks to be ready for when the bull appeared. Just as if it were scripted, the bull stepped from the timber below and tipped his head back to bugle.
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He slowly turned and moved closer. I clicked off the safety and started to follow his progress through my red dot. The closer he got the more nervous I got.
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He stopped to let out another bugle, and I new this was the moment. Just before I squeezed the trigger, I glanced back to fellow MMer KK and said what do you think. An after thought. I knew what he thought. Shoot! As the dot settled behind the shoulder, KK said. "I say we keep looking. Don't get me wrong he is a good bull but not a great one. I say we keep hunting."
Whaaaaaaaat?! I was in shock, so I don't remember the whole conversation, but I sat there looking at this:
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I do remember him saying that I had waited a long time to draw the tag and that I needed to decide if I wanted to punch that tag on that bull opening morning or take the opporunity to Hunt. With that, I clicked the safety back on and said "let's go hunting". And walked away from one of the prettiest bulls I had ever seen. I couldn't believe what I was doing.
We snuck away and did not make it 200 yards when my doubts were put to rest. The wind had calmed and we could hear bulls bugling all around. With just a few cow calls this bull showed himself and though he was smaller, the fun we had calling him in close let me know that I had made the right decision and that I was in for the hunt of a lifetime.
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Come on man... whats this all about.. get us reeled in then makes us wait out some more. Keep the story going would ya for hell sakes. The first bull of the day was def a pretty bull. You got me biting my nails in anticipation of the rest of the story. Keep it going
 
I am loving this story and I can't wait for more. It is fun to read something new and make us anticipate what is next to come.
 
Kinda like sitting in the dentists chair. Cant wait for the end!!!! Then he tells you to come back next week and the next. LOL
 
The morning of day two found us dropping into a drainage that we had spotted a lot of activity in the night before. We were not sure exactly what kind of bulls to expect to see, but we could tell from the sheer number of bulls we had glimpsed through the spotter that it was worth taking a closer look. It took us a good hour or so to locate the herd and they were already in the dark timber by the time we closed the distance. There were at least 20 different bulls chiming in and there was not more than a few seconds between bugles. We decided to follow them into the timber to take a closer look, hoping that our movement would be lost in the frenzy.
We slowly made our way forward, trying to focus on the deepest, nastiest sounding bugle. Whatever bull was making that nasty sound seemed to get the rest of them fired up. As we closed the distance, we started seeing bulls. Never in my life have I seen that many bulls in one place. Within minutes they were on all sides of us screaming their heads off. Here are a few pics (by the way, most of these pick were taken by KK. He is a great guy. I didn't ask him to take them, he brought his camera and at the end of my hunt his wife sent me a cd with all the pics he had taken. Can't say enough about him and his wife.)
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We kept sifting through the bulls in an attempt to get a look at the bull we suspected was the herd bull. We closed to within 50 yards on several occasions, but with all of the commotion and the steep, thick terain we were finding it impossible to get a clean look at him. All we could tell was that he was BIG. With the limited looks he had given us, it was apparent that if given a chance, he was a bull we needed to take. But with bulls literally everywhere we were having a hard time singling him out. After playing cat and mouse for close to two hours at close range, we finally decided to back out. That big bull was smart. He had around 15 cows and at least 20 satalite bulls around him. He kept those cow held up in the dark timber and with all of those eyes and antlers he was unkillable in his little hideout. Here are a few other bulls we passed:
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I can honestly say that I was having the time of my life, but by day 3 and 4 (days 8 and 9 we had been at it) the adrenaline was starting to wear off and fatigue was becoming and issue. The terain in the area I was hunting was steep and unforgiving and we seemed determined to cover it all on foot. I was also fighting other demons. I suffered with a bout of Posterior Tibial Tendenitis in both ankles earlier in the year that had required physical therapy to help control. A steady diet of ibuprofen, Mt. Dew and Adrenaline had kept it bearable, but on the evening of day three the burning in my ankles as I hiked was making its voice heard. But as the sun set on the ridge we had hiked up, this bull and his cows moved into the open and helped take my mind off of the ailment.
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He was a pig of a bull. Watching him chase those cows as the sun set is one of my favorite memories of my hunt. I was tempted to take him, but visions of the Big Beam bull kept popping back into my mine.

For day four, we had decided to hike into a more remote part of the unit to try our luck. This morning was different. For the first time my ankles hurt before I got our of bed. But it was more than just the aches and pains, I just could not get the images of the Big Beam bull out of my head. Before we headed out into the darkness, I took my younger brother aside and asked him to go and look for the bull. I just had to know if he was still where we had left him.
Our hike that morning seemed to go on and on, but the deeper we pushed into the wilderness, the more elk we were seeing. We once again found ourselves in the middle of a rutting frenzy and were close to what we thought was a giant of a bull. We had several close encounters.
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We finally closed in on the heard bull and caught him and his cow out in a large clearing. The clearing had a small rise in the middle that hid the bull from us. All we had to do was make it to the rise and he would be less than 100 yards. We quickly made it into position and as I eased up over the rise, I caught a glimps of his antlers and his hind quarter slipping into the dark timber. His cows were still in the middle of the clearing, and I knew there was no way he would leave them.....and I was right. A thunderous T-Rex sounding bugle exploded from the timber where the big bull had just disappeared and I watched in disbelief as his cow all ran to his call. With that the woods around us went quiet, and it was obviouse that our morning hunt was over. Another close call, another great morning, another victory for the elk, another long disappointing, 3 hour hike, and the ibuprofen and Mt. Dew were not working anymore. By the time I got back to camp I was like a horse that had been ridden hard and put away wet. After retelling the mornings adventure to family and friends, my little brother smiled at me and said, "Big Beam is still there and he has company. Another good bull with short thirds is dogging the herd. You need to take a look at him." All of my pains went away. I knew where I was going in the morning.

Here are a few other bulls we saw:
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Sorry for being so long winded, I am reliving this as I am typing.
 
You dirty dog. ONce again you build me up thinking this one is it. This is where he gets his bull. Im heading out of town here shortly to so im gonna have to wait all weekend to catch up on this. Great story
 
You're killin us here...!!! this is one of the funnest threads in a while... I can't wait for the next post..!!!!


"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-22-11 AT 09:32AM (MST)[p]Go up a little ways in the thread (post #15)guys as he just put some more stuff in late last night, but for some reason he put it above our last posts and it's now out of order! I see now why all the old ladies are having a hissy about those two soap operas that ABC has decided to drop from their lineup after 40+ years on the TV! You just can't get enough once it gets started, LOL!!!
 
>Post #15, 4th picture down. That
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Very Very tempting with abow. From what i can see that is a darn respectable bull.
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-22-11 AT 11:56AM (MST)[p]Seen that pic Sniper and reminded me ALOT of my bull, but with a longer main beams, was my first thought, don't you think? Good looking bull for sure.
 
I gotta jump in here to so I can hear the end of this story.



"We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately."
Benjamin Franklin
 
Lien2- Ha, no they are not peeing in the first pick, but that is exactly what I think every time I see it. I am sure that they will appreciate the fact that I posted it.

Anyway, back to the show.

The morning of the 5th day (Sunday) found us intently glassing the Big Beam bulls hide out. As the darkness slowly turned to grey we were picking apart treelines and shaddows in an attempt to find the herd. As the shaddows lightened someone finally verbalized what my heart was dreading. "They are not here." For the first time since we hit the mountain some 10 days earlier, we had failed to turn up an elk in the Big Beams hidey hole. "Well", I said, lets move around the mountain and do some spotting and then head back to camp. I think I will take a shower and head to town and go to church." I was mentally, emotionally, and physically beat. I needed a break. So we headed around the mountian to check out a few vantage points and to do some glassing.
As the next basin came into view, I have to admit I was feeling sorry for myself and not paying attention, besides we had yet to see an elk in this area, I was jolted back to reality when someone said Elk!
We immediately threw up the glasses and were treated to a scene of utter chaos. There were elk running in all directions. Two small bull were chasing three cows straight down the steep face, while four or five other satelite bulls were taking 1 or 2 cows each in every direction. And there, at the top of the open basin were two big bulls locked in serious battle. It was the Big Beam and the Small thirds bull my brother had told me about. Now I'm here to tell you, these boys didn't like eachother and they were not holding anything back. At one point the Little 3rds litterally rolled the big beam bull over backwards down the steep hillside, but as soon as he could get to his feet he dropped his head and charged straight back up the hill. We could hear there horns crashing together from half a mile away. We all looked at eachother and said "let's go". The chase was on.
We had to get above the battling bulls, whose fight was taking them back towards Big Beams hidey hole. So we busted it around to the back side of the mountain and hoofed it up and over the ridge to where we could look down into the drainage. All in all it took us a solid hour to make the circle. As we crested the ridge above where we hoped the bulls would be, we peered down into an empty drainage. "They should be here. Did they split up?" Then the crashing of antlers again echoed up the draw. They were still fighting in the dark timber. They were close to 800 vertical feet below us, but we closed the distance quickly. When we though we were about on the same level as the bulls we stopped to listen, but in the time it took to decend , it had become quiet. After listening for a time we started cow calling but only got one faint response.....the fight was over and both bulls weren't talking. So with nothing to lose we let out a bugle in hopes that the winner would assert his dominance, and he did. But he was not interested in coming to another fight, so with nothing to lose we decided to take the fight to him.
We dove into the dark timber and covered the distance between us at a fast walk. We would call occasionally to keep tabs on him and with-in a few minutes we had cut the distance in half. The timber was thick and steep with intermittent slides. As we finished struggling through the jungle like growth of one of these slides, we caught movement ahead. My brother in law dropped back a bit and started cow calling and pulled a small 5x5 past us at less than 20 yards. With his attention on my in-law, KK and I continued to slip forward as the bull we were after kept answering the cow calls as well. We were close enough that his screams seemed to make the very air vibrate, but the timber was so thick we couldn't see him. We were finally able to pick him up by using our binos, and figured he was only 40 yards infront of us. Even at that close range, we couldn't make out which bull we were looking at. We slowly crept forward and the bull hooked his cows and started slowly moving up the hill. They turned and walked through a small opening not 50 yards above us and KK cow called to stop the bull. It was the small 3rds bull. With my muzzleloader raised I wispered to KK," what do you think". He said, "I'm not sure I can't get as good a look at him as I'd like" BOOM! Smoke filled the air. The bull tipped over and stared rolling down the hill towards us. I immediately started reloading. I could hear limb breaking and KK saying "reload, reload he is getting up!" By the time I got the cap in place I looked up and the bull was gone. KK said he was hit hard and was probably down just over the rise, but when we got there we came into another slide and there were no elk in sight. A quick comb of the area revealed tracks and one small drop of blood. We folled the trail down the slide for about 100 yards, and the trail split. With no signs of blood since the initial drops, we were not sure which way the bull had gone. So we did what every hunter in our situation would do, we sat down and had a snack to mull things over.
I don't know how long we sat there, but the beef jerky and gator aid didn't sit well in my increasingly sickened stomach. The sign was not good. What went wrong? How could I have made a bad shot at that range?
KK and the in-law followed one trail and I put my nose to the other. I followed my trail another 100-150 yards into the timber, but had found no sign of my bull. As I checked in with KK they too had not found any sign. It had been over an hour since the shot, and we had only covered 3-400 yards mostly following tracks that we weren't even sure belonged to my bull. For the first time in my hunting life, I was fighting off tears. There was no way a bull hit hard could have come on the trail I was following........
Then movement caugt my eye 50 yards ahead. There he was, bedded watching his back trail, but he was so weak he could bearly keep his head up. I quickly put another round in him, and he bulldozed head first into the trees a few yards below and it was over. I had my bull. I hope no one is offended, but here is how he was laying when I walked up on him.
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After struggling for a while to get him repositioned while trying to keep him from rolling to the bottom of the mountain, we finally got him in a more respectable postion befitting the warrior that he was.
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Got to give props to my peops who gave up there time to be with me on my hunt. KK, his wife (who by the way killed a bull the year before that is 3 inches bigger than mine. Some day I'll beat ya Kehli) and my tow in-laws. There were others, but my brother , dad and cousin all had to leave the day before and didn't get to share in the finally.
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And my two favorite pics:
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Now I would be remiss if I didn't talk about the pack out. We got in such a hurry to chase these bulls, that we were not as prepared as we would have liked to be. We were all exhausted from the chase and new we wouldn't get back in there to make a second trip that day. So we decided to take our time and leap frog the bull out the old fashioned way, on our shoulders.
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Almost there, only have to get to the bottom.
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And I have to post this one, cause my inlaw claims he still had a numb spot in his back where the devils tine kept poking him.
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My bull officially grossed 352 6\8. Narrowly missing my goal of 355 6\8 (KK's wifes bull was 355 5\8), but I could not be happier.
So the Big Beam bull lived to fight another day. So if anyone draws this tag feel free to PM me, I would be happy to help out in anyway that I can. It was truely a hunt of a lifetime.
 
Awesome bull! You are a great writer. It felt like I was relivin' the moment right there by your side. Stories like these make me even more anxious for the draw results!

So how did last years hunt compare to the '09 hunt?
 
That was exciting with great writing and fantastic pictures of the animals and country they inhabitated! Just an awesome job on a beautiful bull and I can't wait to get out to AZ and WY this year to help my buddy chase those big buggers around again! Thanks for a great thread man!!!
 
Dr huner:
No comparison! Last years hunt was fun, but nowhere near the experience of 09. The fishlake doesn't have the number or average size of bulls that the San Juan has. We struggled at times just to find elk and that was never a problem here. But it was a wierd rut last year in central utah.
 
That is a stud there carbonnation! You brought some long lacking excitement back that has been missing here. I had a '10 Dutton muzzle tag and have to agree that 2010 was a very wierd and rough year for the rut. Congrats and good job!!
 
Nice bull Carbonnation.
If it was my tag, the hunt would have been over after pic #4 in post 15!!!
Those tough pack-outs make great memories as well. I always tell people that the meat tastes better when it is marinated in sweat.
 
Awesome Story with a great bull at the ending. That is a really good story and pictures of a good hunting trip with friends and family.

"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
Good story Ryan, It was a real fun, real hard hunt. You put a lot of hard work into getting your bull.
 
Great story know the area well grew up there.Now if I could ever draw a tag for the area . 17 pts. maybe this year.
 
Could not have done it without ya KK. Seems everyone loves your photos, maybe time for a new career?

Now all I need to die happy is to reach 355 5/8
 
LAST EDITED ON May-23-11 AT 12:48PM (MST)[p]The pictures turned out good for a $150 camera.
You know how mad my wife would of been at me if your bull was bigger than her bull. Thanks for letting me tag along on the hunt, it was great. I will be down again this fall hunting bear.
 
LAST EDITED ON May-23-11 AT 09:49PM (MST)[p]What unit was this? San Juan? One heck of a bull and a good story. I have dealt with knee tendinitis and it is brutal, I can only imagine.
 
Sweet bull and story!!! If I'd seen this post before my hunt last year I'd have bugged the crap out of you and KK even more than I did :)

Congrats,
Pete
 
Carbonnation,
Well done and ya done well!
I even liked the way you "jerked" us around and kept us wanting more, more, more!
Zeke
 
Holy smokes man. That was a good read man!!! Congrats on a great bull. I am at 14 points now and maybe someday in my lifetime I will have a hunt like yours.

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Very very good story! And an amazing bull.. Congrats and Thanks for sharing. I can't wait until my turns up.
 

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