Banff National Park

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The wifey and I are planning a vacation to Banff National Park and was wondering if anyone has ever been there during the elk rut in September? I would appreciate some suggestions on the best time to view the elk in September (early, mid-month, or late)while they are bugling at the peak of the rut. Any suggestions, recommedations, and advice would be greatly appreciated.

For those of you in the know, How does Banff N.P. compare to Glacier N.P., Yellowstone N.P., and Jasper N.P.?
 
Banff N.P...the wife and I stopped there back in 1984 on the way home from a trip to Alaska. Really a sight to see and Lake Louise is beautiful, we were there in late July and still snow right by the big Lodge. The other places that you mentioned never been there so can't comment on them.

Brian
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I've been in all four of the national parks you have mentioned at one time or another. While I don't recall being in Banff in September, my expectation would be early to mid September would be a great time to view rutting elk.

As a very general observation, I would suggest that the US parks are a bit more commercial, and often more contiguous. Yellowstone is more commercially oriented (Tourist driven) than Glacier. I took my honeymoon in Glacier National Park, and visited there often in my youth. It is much easier to get away from tourist acitivies in Glacier.

The Canadian Parks tend to have even small, non-park related towns embedded in the park. Banff is the obvious example, but also think of the ski resorts and associated areas. The Canadian National Parks seem to encompass the "leftover", undeveloped and rugged areas around these towns. The park is not one contiguous block of space. There seem to be very few commercial operations (Concessions)set up to exploit tourists, and although there are plenty of tourist activities in the towns, the park proper does not seem as tightly regulateded as US Parks. You can spend quite a bit of time in these Canadian Parks and not recognize the difference in terms of regulations, etc., from just being in a national forest.

These are just general observations, and all of the parks have reasons for visiting. Glacier and Banff are my favorites of the four listed, but each have their unique charms.

Bill
 
Middle of Sept.The town of Banff itself you will see plenty of elk go out to the golf course they are every where.Do the whole park some of the most beautiful scenery anywhere plus ;lots of animals.Yellowstone has a lot of elk south of Gardiner in early Sept. Lamar Valley anytime.Glacier you wont see many elk but might see sheep and goats. Teton in Sept. can be really good, lots of moose also.
 
My wife and I drove through there on the way back from POW Island, Alaska 2 years ago the first part of September. It was night time when we stopped for gas and as I was pumping fuel I could hear elk bugling around me but couldn't see them. After fueling up we pulled back on the road and got stopped at a traffic light. A bull walked out onto the road and looked in mye drivers side window along with several others that were hanging out inthe middle of the road. When the light turned green I just sat there and enjoyed the elk. Needless to say the locals didn't like it and were honking and waving at me. LOL. The elk looked like some outlaw gang running the streets. It was way cool and I wish I could have spent some more time in daylight hours. I am sure you will have a blast.
 
Visited Banff the last week of Aug in 1999. There were big bulls close by even then. Didn't get to see any ruttin action, but they were just layin around close to roads. +1 on the golf course too...

My opinion is that it was no Yellowstone, but last time I went to Yellowstone, we saw less big bull elk than ever (2008)... So by now maybe they're even...?

Lake Louise is incredibly beautiful. Take a canoe out and enjoy the scenery. Also, take the gandola to the top of the peak there... There were big horns laying right under the board walks and the view from up there is UNBELIEVABLE...


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LAST EDITED ON May-19-11 AT 02:25PM (MST)[p]If you want rutting elk you need to go to Rocky Mtn. Natl Park and stay in the town of Estes Park, CO. You'll see more elk than you ever had. Just look it up on youtube. sorry not much help with the others, only been to Yellowstone about 13yrs ago before the wolf epidemic.
 
+1 on rocky mtn national park, I was there the first week in september a few years ago and saw alot of elk and some really nice bulls, awesome park.
 
I've been to Banff, Yellowstone, and Glacier, but not during rut(I'm hunting). I'd recommend staying at least one night at the Lake Louise chalet. There are probably as many postcards of that as there is Old Faithful.(with a lot less people)
 
Just head to the golf course right near the river...those medium sized bulls come out of the dark timber and tear up the greens every evening and early morning of course...the golf course greenskeeper obviously hates the elk. We honeymooned in Banff in Mid-July and also saw a pile of sheep too. Be careful if you explore the backcountry (which is loaded with untouched trout creeks) because bears abound in that country (grizzlies! and blacks). We return to Banff in June of 2012 for an all-expense paid trip that I won this season. We'll be flyfishing the bow river in Calgary again, whitewater rafting, and hiking the backcountry.

In terms of roadside bugling elk activity....nothing beats yellowstone in mid-sept. I know the wolves have hurt that population, but the lamar valley, old faithful, and the lower park offers decent roadside rutting activity. I wish I could antler hunt yellowstone! I hear there are thermal areas within the park boundries that are historic wintering spots where big bulls go to die. I hear you can find piles of old horns within small areas in the yellowstone backcountry...Unfortunately you cant touch'em!

Chris
 
If your wanting to see elk, then Banff and Jasper are the ticket. We saw the most elk in Banff, but with that came the amount of tourists too. Jasper did not have as many elk, but the bulls I saw were unbelievable. And, not that many tourists. There is a museum in Banff, cant remember the name, but its down town I think near a city park or something (I think). You must take the time to go check it out. Very very neat stuff in there......Hope this helps
 
Have not been to Banff in September, but went in August. Saw lots of sheep and some goats on a few hikes. As well as some bears up on a ridge, had to have binos for them.

Since Banff and Jasper run together we went to both parks. It is an amazing area, and I would love to go back any time.
 
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Banff- crowded with foreign tourists, very cool shops, pricey restaurants, pricey but very high grade hotels, great museum, wonderful Native American history center, large numbers of elk and big horn sheep wandering throughout the town especially along the parks and golf courses that border the river. Mountain scenery is stunning. 50 minutes to downtown Calgary (800,000 people)

The Highway to Jasper: Goes past Lake Louise, a spectacular lake and old world Hotel built by the railroad over a 100 years old (approx.) Canoe rents worth a self guided paddle around the lake. Lake is the color of the summer sky. On to Jasper, this could be the most amazing 180 miles of scenic highway in North America. (haven't seen them all but this one has go to be right up there) Glaciers next to the road, pristine rivers and creeks, numerous water falls next to the road. Sheep and elk are common, black bear on occasion, the white specs above the timber line are mountain goats. Take nearly 4 hours if you don't stop for a look at anything, 6 hours if you stop for the normal looks more if you explore. Not any motels that I can remember after you leave Lake Louise.

Jasper- less foreign tourists, more local folk. Not so glitzy as Banff, everything is less expensive but not as high grade, more laid back and restful. Beautiful scenery, like Banff but different. No so many critters wandering the streets. Banff would be better if it's elk your after, IMO. North of Jasper things get rougher, remote and less travelled.

In my opinion, every one that loves the outdoors needs to drive this road once in there life. It is such a safe and easy drive from the Western US. You can leave Salt Lake City at 6 a.m. and be in Banff before midnight the same day. Interstate 15 goes all the way, they just change the name at the border.

Glacier National Park- beautiful but nothing in the way of a community to stay in, in the Park. Nothing on the east gate, West Glacier is a pretty small community at the west gate. Never seem to see a lot of wildlife in Glacier however I did encounter two 3/4 grow grizzles just east of the east gate a few years ago.

Yellowstone- what can say, there's no place like it. Every one needs to spend a week in Yellowstone. Elk, buffalo, now days the bears even show up once in a while. I guess you might see a wolf (puke). I never have, thank you!

The sleeper that few know or care about is Waterton National Park, in Canada but is basically an extension of Glacier National Park, the US/Canadian border divides them. I like the scenery better in Waterton that I do in Glacier, and the town is an amazing little village setting on a lake that is a pretty as any you'll see any where in the west and it huge. The motels are all old and mostly run down but if you kind of hold your nose you'll do okay, they won't kill you, we've survived them many, many times.. Restaurants are a little better but not much and theres not a lot to pick from. But it's worth it, if you like great places and are so concerned with have great service. During the first week of August the saskatoons (like blue berries) are like grape vineyards and smell like a perfume department in ZCMi. The blacks bears can smell those berries for 30 miles and they all come running. Golfing is a contest between you and the bears. On the road to Red Rock Canyon it's common to see a dozen different bear, loading up on berries. DO NOT WANDER THROUGH THE BERRY BUSHES THIS TIME OF YEAR.

There is a secondary road, Alberta Highway 22 (the Cowboy Trail) very scenic, remote and very little traffic, that goes north from the Waterton area and comes out just east of Banff. It's way off the normal route but well worth the drive if you want to see the back country. One of the best kept secrets in Alberta. Fill up the fuel tank before you leave because there are no services for a long way (100 mile +/-) Not much in motels along this section either, some at the north end, none on the south. For a road less traveled, give this one a try, you'll be happy you did, if you not in a hurry.

DC
 
I would go to Banff during the first half of September to catch great rut activity. I hunted to the east of Jasper for elk in late September once, and the rut was already largely over, at least the bugling was mostly done by then. On the other hand, I once hunted elk in late September to the west of Banff, and the elk were still bugling good the last week of September, so who can say for sure?

A couple thoughts on taking your wife to Banff. First of all, spend a night or two at the Banff Springs Hotel. It is a grand hotel with lots of things your wife will love, and there are plenty of elk right around town. Second, spend a night or two at Chateau Lake Louise. Your wife, and you, will love it. Most of all, since this is a vacation with your wife, staying at those two places will score more 'brownie' points for you than you can imagine.

Take a good camera and learn how to use it. You're going to one of the most beautiful places on earth, and early September is one of the most beautiful times of year to be there.
 

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