Monte ,I was not involved in the harvesting of these bucks .My freind John Stever,Purplesage outfitting,was the guide service who were involved in the harvest of these two bucks , John has E mailed me more photos of a couple more dandies that the ladies have taken , and as well the elk season is opening ,I am looking frward to more success photos I will share with you as soon as I get them ,Good hunting ,TOM