Thanks for your reply I only had 4 points and drew 1 of 2 nonresident tags. I cannot belive it i have archery hunted elk in Idaho and Wyoming for 25 years without missing a year. Have never had a bull over 330 in archery range. I have horses mules and pack supplies dont quite now what im up against. Plan on 4 day scouting trip in july. No way i will pass a 350,plan on hunting at least 16 days for sure only one Utah elk hunt in my lifetime.Still cant belive im that guy i have 13 points in AZ and still cant belive im goin to Utah. Any info would be sweet!