2011 New Zealand Stag Elk 470" SCI

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Got this pictures from "Blueoak" so here is a New Zealand Stag that is pretty impressive.

Check this stud stag out. He scores 470 SCI and has 35 points with 15 inch diameter beams. My friend got him in New Zealand in May 2011. Go ahead and post if you think folks would be interested.
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Brian
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My Question is?

Do the have High fenced Ranch Stagg Hunts?

Or is that a Wild Stagg?



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I don't care if they're big or small!
If they throw lead I like em all!
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Be_Bopper.........I have no idea but I have watched over the years on TV some of those hunts and never seen any fences that high up in the mountains down there.

Brian
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I talked to an outfitter out of new zealand and he told me to grow stags of that size they use high fence ranches.He also informed me that a 500 inch stag would cost 100,000 dollars.
 
Now that's what I call mass and character. Unbelievable how some of these Red stags can grow such incredible racks.

Eldorado
 
A trip to NZ is next on my list. I want to do a stag, tahr, chamois hunt. The place I will go is top notch for the wives to go as well and she would not let me go to NZ without her. I have talked to Gary Herbert many times and in my mind he is absolutely the right choice for me. There are fences in NZ and from what I gather a very very small area that is not fenced. I want to do the helicopter ride for chamois and tahr. Top of the list for me.
 
Good stuff, my wife said she would like to have a stag, so NZ got moved up on the hunt list!

WP

"My only regret in life is setting my goals too low"
 
I've spent about 6 months total in New Zealand over the years. I haven't hunted but I've caught some nice fish. If I had to move out of the US NZ would be at the top of the list. It has it all, mountains, streams, ocean, all within a short distance of each other. And the people are as nice as people can get.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-22-11 AT 11:09AM (MST)[p]Interesting.... its seems like its OK to shoot a monster stag behind a fence in NZ but if you shoot a big elk or deer behind a fence in the US you could be lynched.

littlejoe
Helicopter hunting is a lot like road hunting mule deer.
 
I did a helicopter ride for fun in Hawaii years back and that is one of the coolest things I have ever done. I realize some of the challenge is gone but part of the deal is to do some flying around and see the mountains, etc while we are out and about and that is a big deal to me.
 
>LAST EDITED ON Jun-22-11
>AT 11:09?AM (MST)

>
>Interesting.... its seems like its OK
>to shoot a monster stag
>behind a fence in NZ
>but if you shoot a
>big elk or deer behind
>a fence in the US
>you could be lynched.
>
>littlejoe
>Helicopter hunting is a lot like
>road hunting mule deer.



i didn't want to be the first to say it...

but a quik google search and you can find private elk pushing 600"
thats not cool?
this is just a continuation to my africa post.

i honestly dont understand why it's ok in NZ or AFRICA,but world war 3 if it's elk in the U.S.

NOT TAKING AWAY FROM ANYONES HUNTING METHOD AT ALL!
i just want to know why it's "differenet"
 
My bro-in-law was a farmer on the south island of New Zealand his whole life till he married my sister and moved here about 8 years ago. We've discussed the size of the staggs you see come out of there. He said without a doubt all of the huge stags you see shot are retired farm stags. They use these stags for thier horns. They wait until blood content is at its highest in the antler growth cycle then bring the stags in and cut thier antlers off. They then cut them into medalions, freeze them and sell them to China. The Chinese use it like Viagra. Now, when they get a hunter that wants to come hunt a huge Stag, they'll pull one of thier big staggs and set it free. There are no "high fences" in New Zealand really. Lots of private land but deer move in and out freely. Tahr, Chamois, Fallow ect... all move freely around NZ. As do Reds. You can easily hunt wild, Non-farm raised animals in NZ but they will be of normal size. There 7 different species of deer in NZ. They even have wild Elk and eastern Whitetails.

"The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." General John J. "Black Jack" Pershing, US Army
"Most men go through life wondering if they made a difference, Marines don't have that problem." President Ronald Regan
 
NZ is as pretty a place as there is in the world and I want to see more of it when I am there and will use the helicopter. Some might not like it but that is a decision I have made and did without blinking an eye. We all have reasons for why we do what we do and we all have different morals and I am not going to think any less of anyone that hunts behind a fence or road hunts or however they hunt. It is a decision that they have made and in no way does it effect what I am doing. At least people are getting out and doing something they enjoy.
 
little j
You don't need to explain to anyone how you choose to hunt. Whatever works for you is what counts. I'm sure you'll have a great time and have some lifelong memories.
I don't think anything less of guys who take a helicopter or hunt behind high fences but I think more of guys who don't.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-24-11 AT 06:46AM (MST)[p]There are not alot of people who can hunt Tahr or Chamois on foot. The places these animals live in is a sight to be seen. You would have to train for a triathalon at 10,000 feet for a year to really get after these animals. Most people hunt them out of helo's in NZ. There are a handful of locals there that hunt them on foot and do it well but they grew up doing it. My brother Bruce has killed hundreds of Tahr and Chamois in the southern Alps. He has some crazy stories about it too. I would not judge anyone who hunted Tahr out of a helo in NZ.

You don't actually shoot out of the air either. They find the animals from the helo. You then have to find an escarpment somewhere to drop out of the helo. That could be thousands of yards away. You still have to stalk in and make a clean shot. Its not as easy as it sounds.

As far as the big Reds go. To each his own. I do know this, you can hunt in NZ 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. These animals are very skittish. They've been hunted by professional hunters flying Helos for as long as there have been Helo's. If an animal out in the wild see's you, it gone. UNLESS its a farm deer. They'll still run off but you'll get a shot. The truly wild deer there are not as big and are much more spooky.


"The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." General John J. "Black Jack" Pershing, US Army
"Most men go through life wondering if they made a difference, Marines don't have that problem." President Ronald Regan
 

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