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rumpletown
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I hope this post comes across as non-bashing and not to controversial.
Ive had this discussion probably 759 times with the guys I work with.
So im curious to see what you guys think.
In our discussions the subject is brought up about who does a better job at management, CWMU's or the DWR.
In the debate, we discuss and compare the two.
Here are a few of our thoughts.
1 - Elk tags are more expensive then deer tags.
2 - We think the DWR focuses more on elk management then deer because it gives the DWR more revenue.
3 - Elk herds and high scoring bulls have never been better here in Utah because of their management.
4 - Deer are not doing that great, they may be recovering but still its not like it used to be.
5 - Because they focus more management on elk then deer the deer herds have and are suffering.
6 - Now, you look at how CWMU's, at least those that really make an effort to manage their herds, they seem to have alot of deer on their land, and alot of bucks. I have been on enough of them to see for myself and compare them to public land.
7 - Is this a a coincidence, or do you believe that what you see is what you get. CWMU's manage the deer better and therefore have larger herds, better buck to doe ratios, and more big bucks?
7.5 - It has to be more than just predators to make the deer herds diminish like they have.
8 - Can their be a balance in the management for deer and elk to make them thrive, or is one always going to have precendence over the other?
I love hunting them both deer and elk and want to see the deer have as much succes as the elk have. Give credit to the DWR for making elk hunting so good, but why has their been a downturn in deer hunting. I remember seeing so many deer I coulndt count them this time of year. Now I go out and I count maybe a couple hundred all day.
We would like to know what you guys think. We talk about it for hours when it is brought up at work.
Thanks
Ive had this discussion probably 759 times with the guys I work with.
So im curious to see what you guys think.
In our discussions the subject is brought up about who does a better job at management, CWMU's or the DWR.
In the debate, we discuss and compare the two.
Here are a few of our thoughts.
1 - Elk tags are more expensive then deer tags.
2 - We think the DWR focuses more on elk management then deer because it gives the DWR more revenue.
3 - Elk herds and high scoring bulls have never been better here in Utah because of their management.
4 - Deer are not doing that great, they may be recovering but still its not like it used to be.
5 - Because they focus more management on elk then deer the deer herds have and are suffering.
6 - Now, you look at how CWMU's, at least those that really make an effort to manage their herds, they seem to have alot of deer on their land, and alot of bucks. I have been on enough of them to see for myself and compare them to public land.
7 - Is this a a coincidence, or do you believe that what you see is what you get. CWMU's manage the deer better and therefore have larger herds, better buck to doe ratios, and more big bucks?
7.5 - It has to be more than just predators to make the deer herds diminish like they have.
8 - Can their be a balance in the management for deer and elk to make them thrive, or is one always going to have precendence over the other?
I love hunting them both deer and elk and want to see the deer have as much succes as the elk have. Give credit to the DWR for making elk hunting so good, but why has their been a downturn in deer hunting. I remember seeing so many deer I coulndt count them this time of year. Now I go out and I count maybe a couple hundred all day.
We would like to know what you guys think. We talk about it for hours when it is brought up at work.
Thanks