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This question is for Wyoming resident deer hunters. How many regions do you typically hunt in one years time period?
WY Residents - How many regions.................
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I hunt 3. K G H
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rumproast
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Two: one in October and another in November, if necessary.
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Three, sometimes four. Depends on the year. In my location it is pretty easy to switch back and forth between a couple of regions right out the front and back door. With the new split between region D and W, I hunt at least 3 every year.
We're lucky that the resident population of Wyoming is small enough that we're not restricted to region unless you want to choose a limited quota tag. I'd just as soon it stays that way.
We're lucky that the resident population of Wyoming is small enough that we're not restricted to region unless you want to choose a limited quota tag. I'd just as soon it stays that way.
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I grew up in Kemmerer and we hunted 3-4 every year. My dad still lives there and hunts 1-2 every year.
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-01-07 AT 08:03PM (MST)[p] lately it has been 3 to 4, hog park,muddy mountian,thunder basin, black hills. i hunt for a big muley and if i don't like what i see i shoot a whitetail in sundance. hog park while bowhunting elk if i don't draw muddy elk, muddy for deer when i do or on weekends and after work at night with a bow but not with a rifle due to deer herd decline i would like to see muddy go limited quota deer. just on muddy mt itself the area around should stay general. then the elk numbers need reduced on muddy itself but that will not happen tell russel gordy opens his lands to hunting.
thunder basin we go to because its between bowseason and rifle elk. my son makes me go there he just can't wait 14 days.
i grew up in sundance and i can allways pull out a decent white tail to fill the tag.
to me once bowseason stops i really don't care to shoot buck deer with a rifle but a guys gotta eat deer steaks.
i haven't shot a buck deer on muddy with a rifle for a long time back in the old 1900's i'd rather let them grow then be able to shoot them at a long range. its all about the hunt to me.
the best deer comes on the last day of the last season reguardless of the size. but i will not shoot young muleys,white tails yes. thats due to herd size the flagits{white tail} are doing great at home.
thunder basin we go to because its between bowseason and rifle elk. my son makes me go there he just can't wait 14 days.
i grew up in sundance and i can allways pull out a decent white tail to fill the tag.
to me once bowseason stops i really don't care to shoot buck deer with a rifle but a guys gotta eat deer steaks.
i haven't shot a buck deer on muddy with a rifle for a long time back in the old 1900's i'd rather let them grow then be able to shoot them at a long range. its all about the hunt to me.
the best deer comes on the last day of the last season reguardless of the size. but i will not shoot young muleys,white tails yes. thats due to herd size the flagits{white tail} are doing great at home.
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I too hunt 3-4 regions a year.
I asked because of a conversation I was having with a friend. We both wondered how many residents hunted multiple regions.
I believe that is an important perk to Wyoming residents. For the record, WY SFW is not pushing any agenda; although, I have heard others taking about restricting residents to one region. This has been thrown out as an alternative to placing regions G & H into a quota system. I don't know how many are pushing for a quota in these regions but I do know that many are talking about making some changes as they believe hunters have waited long enough for mule deer to recover on their own. Current practices do not appear to be helping mule deer recover.
I remain interested in hearing other ideas or solutions to help mule deer recover. Check out the other post asking about the season setting meetings.
I asked because of a conversation I was having with a friend. We both wondered how many residents hunted multiple regions.
I believe that is an important perk to Wyoming residents. For the record, WY SFW is not pushing any agenda; although, I have heard others taking about restricting residents to one region. This has been thrown out as an alternative to placing regions G & H into a quota system. I don't know how many are pushing for a quota in these regions but I do know that many are talking about making some changes as they believe hunters have waited long enough for mule deer to recover on their own. Current practices do not appear to be helping mule deer recover.
I remain interested in hearing other ideas or solutions to help mule deer recover. Check out the other post asking about the season setting meetings.
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I hunt 3-4 in a normal year. But I would GLADLY give up that right if I had the chance to get one QUALITY hunt every year or two. Wyoming really needs some management on their mule deer.
Funny that you don't hear a single Wyoming resident complain about the antelope license system. We're limited to a single area just like nonresidents for antelope. And we have some quality antelope hunts due to the management.
Same for elk. Wyoming has some quality elk areas and everyone applies there. There's more limited quota elk areas than deer, and again, the quality of the hunting is better.
Change comes slowly............
And no, I don't belong to any of the groups mentioned. I've been asking for some quality managemnt on Wyoming deer for over a decade, and I still don't see it coming. Not sure it will arrive in my lifetime.
Funny that you don't hear a single Wyoming resident complain about the antelope license system. We're limited to a single area just like nonresidents for antelope. And we have some quality antelope hunts due to the management.
Same for elk. Wyoming has some quality elk areas and everyone applies there. There's more limited quota elk areas than deer, and again, the quality of the hunting is better.
Change comes slowly............
And no, I don't belong to any of the groups mentioned. I've been asking for some quality managemnt on Wyoming deer for over a decade, and I still don't see it coming. Not sure it will arrive in my lifetime.
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Just a point or two while we weed through options here:
The stink raised when 'set-asides' were up on the block would pale compared to restricting Res. Deer to a Region. That would bring out the quiet majority. We'd mutiny, fer sure. Big time. It would be perceived, rightfully so, as a 'special interest' benefit, and as the outfitters found out previously, would be shot down like a rabid dog.
Gate closures would have the instant effect of concentrating road use in other spots, then what to be done about those areas becomes the issue. The Elk hunters wouldn't put up with that crap, for one thing. The legalities would be questioned, if not "dealt with", right away.
Limited quotas would concentrate some hunters on other general areas, most likely, and those might start going downhill where there's never been a problem before. I'm sure residents of those areas would be very unhappy at the prospects.
These methods might be effective for the given area, but how many other areas would be adversely affected? Is it worth it? And to whom?
The one thing that I see as not much of a problem is the road hunter himself--9 out of 10 don't go more than a mile from their ride. There's an awful lot of country that never sees a footprint that isn't half a mile from a well-traveled two-track.
Those guys just don't want to be too far removed from their creature comforts. Doesn't matter what they're hunting.
One thing that might have Regions G and H (which are artificial boundaries for residents) amenable for some type of tag restrictions is most, by far, residents don't travel to those places to hunt deer--they go there for Elk. And they wouldn't bother going there at all if not for Elk.
Resident majority just doesn't give these places the deer popularity marks they seem to get from outside, on the whole. Most of our deer hunting is done in places the mags won't hear about. Closer to home, for most. That's the way it should be.
But try messing with residents' Elk hunting territory, and you've got a battle royal on your hands. Try closing gates where the Elk camps are set up, that will be a lead balloon.
Rumproast
The stink raised when 'set-asides' were up on the block would pale compared to restricting Res. Deer to a Region. That would bring out the quiet majority. We'd mutiny, fer sure. Big time. It would be perceived, rightfully so, as a 'special interest' benefit, and as the outfitters found out previously, would be shot down like a rabid dog.
Gate closures would have the instant effect of concentrating road use in other spots, then what to be done about those areas becomes the issue. The Elk hunters wouldn't put up with that crap, for one thing. The legalities would be questioned, if not "dealt with", right away.
Limited quotas would concentrate some hunters on other general areas, most likely, and those might start going downhill where there's never been a problem before. I'm sure residents of those areas would be very unhappy at the prospects.
These methods might be effective for the given area, but how many other areas would be adversely affected? Is it worth it? And to whom?
The one thing that I see as not much of a problem is the road hunter himself--9 out of 10 don't go more than a mile from their ride. There's an awful lot of country that never sees a footprint that isn't half a mile from a well-traveled two-track.
Those guys just don't want to be too far removed from their creature comforts. Doesn't matter what they're hunting.
One thing that might have Regions G and H (which are artificial boundaries for residents) amenable for some type of tag restrictions is most, by far, residents don't travel to those places to hunt deer--they go there for Elk. And they wouldn't bother going there at all if not for Elk.
Resident majority just doesn't give these places the deer popularity marks they seem to get from outside, on the whole. Most of our deer hunting is done in places the mags won't hear about. Closer to home, for most. That's the way it should be.
But try messing with residents' Elk hunting territory, and you've got a battle royal on your hands. Try closing gates where the Elk camps are set up, that will be a lead balloon.
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It would be pretty tough to give up the liberal hunting seasons we have in Wyo.You can pretty much hunt for 3 months on general tags.No where else can you do that!That being said,if worse came to worse,I wouldn't have a big problem with some sort of limits,if it would decrease crowding,improve quality,and raise B/D ratios and age class.I'm not very lucky;don't draw tags very often.I've drawn 2 antelope in the past 13-14 years.If general areas were better,it wouldn't be such a big deal.Last year, I only hunted 2 areas for deer,but usually it could be as many as 5.
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WOW.... kind of reminds me of Utah's situation back in 1994
In Utah we get to pick a region and our weapon of choice.
If ya hunt with a bow you can still hunt statewide for about 30 days ( deer ) and for about 3 month's in a few extended hunt area's.
We have several area's in the state that are limited to 5 day seasons. We have basically turned Utah into a draw state.
I know several hunters that can't draw a southern Utah tag for a rifle so they purchase one of the 16,000 over the counter general archery tags and this is the only way that they can hunt in their back yards or where their families have hunted for years.
My point is after 13 years of history in which Utah has gone to the limitations Wyoming is discussing can you honestly say that Utah is better off???
In Utah we get to pick a region and our weapon of choice.
If ya hunt with a bow you can still hunt statewide for about 30 days ( deer ) and for about 3 month's in a few extended hunt area's.
We have several area's in the state that are limited to 5 day seasons. We have basically turned Utah into a draw state.
I know several hunters that can't draw a southern Utah tag for a rifle so they purchase one of the 16,000 over the counter general archery tags and this is the only way that they can hunt in their back yards or where their families have hunted for years.
My point is after 13 years of history in which Utah has gone to the limitations Wyoming is discussing can you honestly say that Utah is better off???
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I try to limit myself to one area and concentrate on a particular buck if possible. If I am pressed for time, I will go to as many as 3 regions in a season so I can at least go hunt, even though it may not be where I prefer to be.
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As many as 4. With all the different types of groups that are against hunters,why would we want to restrict ourselves? The next thing you know some sportsmens lobbiest would be in Washington saying " I represent the hunting community. We as sportsmen of the U.S. would like pick a state to ensure our hunting heritage continues." Just my point of view. I like to keep my options open.
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I hunt 2 Regions.
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I see the Mule Deer Init. has a blurb about a Deer License Study Group. Supposed to come up with pros and cons regarding separate Muley and Whitey tags, and Lim. Quoting the deer system.
Most curious to see their findings, supposed to be done by Feb.
Can't find a sign of it anywhere yet, though.
ICM--
Why are you trying to compare Antelope hunting with Deer hunting?
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Res's. don't mind Lim. Quo. for lope since we're going to fill the tag, most likely within one day, no matter what area we put in for. It's a 'shoot' for a lot of people, a 'kid hunt' for a lot of others, because it is so easy.
'Deer camp' is a valued time of year, planned time off, if you will, but I've never heard a bunch of res. hunters going to set up 'antelope camp'. In a practical sense, that's pretty laughable.
And, for the sake of saving a post, it sounds like you've got just the perfect little slice of paradise over there.
Maybe the Magical Elves have got their Hobbit-holes nestled snugly along the banks of the Trophy Trout River, also!
To not accept poaching as much, if not more, as an inside job, rather than a truckload of trigger-dudes violating property and game laws, is a bit too rose-colored for this "ghetto resident" to stomach.
Rump
Most curious to see their findings, supposed to be done by Feb.
Can't find a sign of it anywhere yet, though.
ICM--
Why are you trying to compare Antelope hunting with Deer hunting?
Spelled out:
Res's. don't mind Lim. Quo. for lope since we're going to fill the tag, most likely within one day, no matter what area we put in for. It's a 'shoot' for a lot of people, a 'kid hunt' for a lot of others, because it is so easy.
'Deer camp' is a valued time of year, planned time off, if you will, but I've never heard a bunch of res. hunters going to set up 'antelope camp'. In a practical sense, that's pretty laughable.
And, for the sake of saving a post, it sounds like you've got just the perfect little slice of paradise over there.
Maybe the Magical Elves have got their Hobbit-holes nestled snugly along the banks of the Trophy Trout River, also!
To not accept poaching as much, if not more, as an inside job, rather than a truckload of trigger-dudes violating property and game laws, is a bit too rose-colored for this "ghetto resident" to stomach.
Rump
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I think the guys posting here are going to be hard core hunters and not the true picture of what the majority of WY hunters do when it comes to number of regions hunted in one year. If I look around my community the majority of guys only hunt one region.
WYHunter
PS I usually hunt 2.
WYHunter
PS I usually hunt 2.
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-07-07 AT 10:08PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Apr-07-07 AT 10:07 PM (MST)
I dont think you can compare Utah and Wyoming they are apples and oranges ...
I think both states need some major changes and the sooner the better as both states could be some of the best hunting in the west
WHAT is Colarado doing so rite that they are just going back into there hay days of muledeer hunting and they DO give out a lot of tags and many are in the middle of the RUT
Look at Nevada & Arizona for what they have they look pritty good for deer hunters
Idaho is going to need to make changes also and they are having the same problams as Wyoming i.e South Eastern Idaho deer numbers are Way down just like reg G & H in Wyoming
Dont get me wrong if I lived in Wyoming I would be going crazy but what should they do???
What about giving out 1 high demand Region and 1 other like a G and a B or a K and a F hell somthing is going to be the key but finding it is going to take some changes
Hope it all comes out Good for everyone as I love Hunting in Wyoming the Oudoors and People are GREAT
UThunting
CLynt L Citte
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I dont think you can compare Utah and Wyoming they are apples and oranges ...
I think both states need some major changes and the sooner the better as both states could be some of the best hunting in the west
WHAT is Colarado doing so rite that they are just going back into there hay days of muledeer hunting and they DO give out a lot of tags and many are in the middle of the RUT
Look at Nevada & Arizona for what they have they look pritty good for deer hunters
Idaho is going to need to make changes also and they are having the same problams as Wyoming i.e South Eastern Idaho deer numbers are Way down just like reg G & H in Wyoming
Dont get me wrong if I lived in Wyoming I would be going crazy but what should they do???
What about giving out 1 high demand Region and 1 other like a G and a B or a K and a F hell somthing is going to be the key but finding it is going to take some changes
Hope it all comes out Good for everyone as I love Hunting in Wyoming the Oudoors and People are GREAT
UThunting
CLynt L Citte
Willard Utah
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