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lone_hunter
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Aug-21-12, 
05:30 PM (MST)
"real time Monroe suggestions"

I am on the Monroe for thd first time with general elk tags. Honestly having a bit of trouble locating herds. Saw a good herd saturday on the east of Langdon. We got uo there last night, nothing there. Any suggestions would be appreciated, even PM.

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 Subject   Author   Message Date   ID 
 RE: real time ...  llamapacker      Aug-22-12   1 
  RE: real time ...  HorseCreek      Aug-22-12   2 
   RE: real time ...  BigPig      Aug-22-12   3 
    RE: real time ...  BIGJOHNT      Aug-22-12   4 
 RE: real time ...  brutus54      Aug-23-12   5 
  RE: real time ...  dleonard3      Aug-24-12   6 
   RE: real time ...  mntman      Aug-24-12   7 
    RE: real time ...  Gator      Aug-25-12   8 
     RE: real time ...  brutus54      Aug-25-12   9 
      RE: real time ...  llamapacker      Aug-26-12   10 
       RE: real time ...  dleonard3      Aug-27-12   11 
        RE: real time ...  llamapacker      Aug-27-12   12 
         RE: real time ...  mmwb      Aug-27-12   13 
 RE: real time ...  flatdead      Aug-27-12   14 

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llamapacker
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Aug-22-12, 
09:40 AM (MST)
1. "RE: real time Monroe suggestions"

The elk are largely in their summer nursery herds, although starting to disperse a little. Things will change very drastically in the next couple weeks, but right now you need to look where the elk were in mid-summer (which it still is.)
Bill

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HorseCreek
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Aug-22-12, 
01:42 PM (MST)
2. "RE: real time Monroe suggestions"

I don't know Langdon very well but from what Iv'e heard there aren't a ton of elk down there. Move north and if you don't find elk keep moving. The elk aren't hard to find on that unit at all.


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BigPig
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Aug-22-12, 
04:09 PM (MST)
3. "RE: real time Monroe suggestions"

LAST EDITED ON Aug-22-12 AT 04:10 PM (MST)

I didn't think there was any general elk hunting on Monroe. Are we talking about archery spike?

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BIGJOHNT
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Aug-22-12, 
04:56 PM (MST)
4. "RE: real time Monroe suggestions"

Maybe its a good thing he cant find the elk then

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brutus54
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Aug-23-12, 
02:52 AM (MST)
5. "RE: real time Monroe suggestions"

You can Hunt Spikes with all three weapons on most LE units now.

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dleonard3
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Aug-24-12, 
11:34 AM (MST)
6. "RE: real time Monroe suggestions"

>You can Hunt Spikes with all
>three weapons on most LE
>units now.


^That's stupid, stupid, stupid.^ Buy beef and save those baby bulls until they're grown up. First timers? Save your self for a six point.

This is just my opinion - and you can't take that away from me.

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mntman
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Aug-24-12, 
12:46 PM (MST)
7. "RE: real time Monroe suggestions"

Here we go again... popcorn and beer are on the way!

Mntman

"Hunting is where you prove yourself"

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Gator
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Aug-25-12, 
11:54 AM (MST)
8. "RE: real time Monroe suggestions"

Why does everyone B!tch about a guy who HAS a TAG, He brought and paid for his tag he HAS THE RIGHT to shoot what trips his trigger. Not every hunter is a horn hunter.Some hunt for the joy of being on the mtn with family and friends.

"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
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brutus54
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Aug-25-12, 
04:16 PM (MST)
9. "RE: real time Monroe suggestions"

Well Said Gator!!

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llamapacker
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Aug-26-12, 
04:51 PM (MST)
10. "RE: real time Monroe suggestions"

I filled my general archery elk tag on the Monroe with a spike on Saturday. Sure I would love to have shot the nice 6x6 standing beside him, but I was very happy to take the spike and now have a freezer full of premium meat. I don't really care if someone else is happy with that or not. If someone wants to buy me a LE tag every year so I can just shoot mature bulls, then I'll stop killing cows and spikes. Since that isn't too likely to happpen..... I am happy with the spike, and enjoyed the hunt.
Bill

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dleonard3
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Aug-27-12, 
08:55 AM (MST)
11. "RE: real time Monroe suggestions"

Bill, I'm sure you enjoyed your hunt. The problem I see is that the guy that applied and waited 15+ years to draw that LE tag, had to have his nearly "ONCE IN A LIFETIME" hunt downgraded because of over-crowding by unlimited spike elk & deer hunters. Ya, I understand that you love to hunt, but for pete's sake, this is supposed to be a "LIMITED ENTRY" unit. Remember, if more bulls survive to maturity, there will be more big bulls, and more LE tags. I liked it when Limited Entry meant limited entry, and General Open Bull meant you could kill any bull you could find.

Again, this is just my opinion based on my own experiences and preferences. You can't take my opinion away, and it's pretty unlikely that you will be able to change it. I'm sure my opinion doesn't change yours either.

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llamapacker
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Aug-27-12, 
09:29 AM (MST)
12. "RE: real time Monroe suggestions"

dleonard3,
I understand where you are coming from, and if more spikes really turned into more big bulls I mihgt even agree with you.But first, although the overcrowding can be a problem near the roads, I have to say I never saw another hunter on foot the last two weekends. Sure, there were people riding around on ATVs, and plenty of archery deer hunters as well. And I even passed a few parked ATV's now and again, but I never saw another hunter. I don't think I interefered with a single LE hunter, although I'm sure it happens. My own personal expereince with an LE tag on the Monroe was impacted more by rifle hunters scouting for their upcoming hunt than the few general spike hunters present.
Back to the "more big bulls" statement. If the herd didn't have a high ratio of mature bulls, than letting the spikes all live might produce a few more mature bulls. That isn't the case onMonroe and many other LE units in Utah. Beyond a certain limit, you can't keep increasing the ratio of bulls to cows, and this led specifically to the introduction of management bull tags a few years ago. Several of our herds would be healthier with a bit fewer mature bulls in the herd. I wish it weren't so, as we would all love to see ratios of 2 bulls for every cow, but that just isn't the way nature works. Harvesting a few spikes each year can be good for the herd, as would culling a few inferior raghorns, but that is hard to manage. The added opportunity of the spike/cow hunt is good for the overall health of the herd, and the opportunity it provides.
And yes, I realize I probably won't change your mind.
Bill

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mmwb
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Aug-27-12, 
09:41 AM (MST)
13. "RE: real time Monroe suggestions"

Cover a lot of ground until you find them: as in 10+ miles--or the max your body will allow--a day if needed.Once you get into fresh sign you can slow down and hunt more meticulously.

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Aug-27-12, 
12:31 PM (MST)
14. "RE: real time Monroe suggestions"

I want in. My problem with hunting cows and spikes on a LE unit is everyone wants to call and chase the big bills for fun. Ive been on sevral of these hunts and waisted time hikeing over to a call to find a spike hunter with a camera. I hope some day the guys that are doing this get a tag for a big bull so I can repay them. If utah wants a spike or cow hunt give them there own season after my 15 year wait!!!! But utah does this on purpose so not as many bulls get killed and they can up the tags and get more money thats what its realy about. And you dont think people will hike for an elk, they will and them spend 2 days getting it out. That realy helps hunting out.

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