CO Deer Refund Checks

In 2006 I received my refund check for deer on June 26th with the deer drawing on May 31, 2006. SO you are probably looking at least a week yet before getting the deer refund.
Don't know about the Elk as drew last year.

For this year the booklet says deer refunds in mail by June 22 and elk must be the same as nothing else stated any different.

Brian
 
I am also still waiting on my check. Funny how these states demand payment in full and then take their sweet time getting the money back to us. I wish these states would do what Utah does and only take the processing fee upfront, the get you for the rest if you draw. However, Utah law changes as of July 1 and now is requiring a small game license before one can apply for hunts. So maybe Utah may be going to something similar to Colorado, who knows.
 
Some of my hunting buddies have not received their deer tags yet, I along with two others got ours. It it is slow on tags and/or refunds checks.

Brian
 
"Funny how these states demand payment in full and then take their sweet time getting the money back to us."

Whats funny is the amount of people who whine about this barely two weeks after the draw. Do you not realize that it takes time to process thousands of refunds? You are not the only who gets one. It takes a couple months to do the draw, why do you expect the refunds out so fast? Its amazing how some of you think.





It's Bush's fault!!!
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-16-07 AT 07:27AM (MST)[p]NR here, still no refund check for deer, elk or pronghorn. But I'm sure they're imminent.........

I also agree that's the one thing that bugs me about Colorado, that you need to send in the full amount even if you're only applying for a point. In lookin at their revenues for 2006, they made a few million in interest, I'm sure most of it off of holding our checks. Colorado didn't earn that money, we did. We have the right to earn interest on it, they don't.

Re: people whining 2 weeks after the draw about checks......... bulloney on two counts. 1. The Colorado draw deadline was early April; it's been over 2 MONTHS (and counting) since they've been holding all these checks. Do the math. 2. If they just charged an application fee (i.e. like Utah does), and didn't ask for the entire amount, they wouldn't have to draw up refund checks in the first place!!!

I don't know how many states do what Colorado does, but if they all did it, I know a lot of people wouldn't have the opportunity to apply for hunts in multiple states. Having thousands of dollars out every season for potential draws would limit that big time. That's my 2 cents anyway.....
 
freedivr,

Were you not around when there was no internet applications and you had to pay up front in every state? It wasn't that long ago. Now everybody thinks they should get a shot at the best tags without having to front some money. BS. You should have to pay full tag fees up front in every state. Then maybe it wont take so long to draw these coveted tags. Where is your information coming from for the few million in interest? I'd like to see the numbers. Also, yeah the draw deadline was back in April but your going to sit there and tell me that it doesn't take time to put thousands of applicants into the computer, run the draw, figure out who gets a refund and then distribute those refunds? What planet do you live on? Again, show me the numbers about the revenue from interest.





It's Bush's fault!!!
 
Correct Kilowatt. It appears they started drawings to control the animal population to attempt to keep hunting good. However, once they found out how much cash they have floating around for a "interest quarter", it turned out to be a good money maker too. Their application quantity is probably much higher than the OTC purchases long ago. Elk by the way, does not require the full amount to file for a preference point. None the less, it's over $500 for the two. What I don't like is all these states starting to charge $25-40 for a dang point. That's rape. In the end....It's all about money. Always is and always will be.
 
Here's another question for some of you, would you rather they make interest on your money sitting in the bank for a couple months, or raise tag fees so you can get your money back faster? Kind of seems obvious what most would want.




It's Bush's fault!!!
 
sremim,

I also get amused at these interest and refund gripes. If the process is unacceptable do not put in. Just for arguments sake, lets say you give them $1000 in application fees. Lets say you earn 10% on your money which you don't. For April, May, and June you lost out on a whopping 25 bucks max. In reality you probably lost a couple of bucks in interest.

I agree 1000's upon 1000's of tags and applications probably take some time to sort through. I got my deer tag within days and a elk refund in 3 weeks. Pretty good I say.
 
My original question was of timing, not whining. However, I did notice you only referred to a little interest, not the $25-40 WY and CO are charging for preference points. What... 3$ wasn't good enough. They saw other states doing it so they said, hey let's raise ours. It mostly affects NR people anyway. It remains $3 for those who buy a license every year. Whiners were the reason they started preference point systems. I guess the rule on 3 years of a dormant account losing points isn't in the CDOW's favor either, huh? Keeps the apps and $$ coming in... but, we love to hunt so we pay it.... and that's what they "bank" on.
 
Actually, since you asked... I prefer a sweet white wine with an aged colby jack cheese on a triscuit. Try it sometime. It may make you feel better about yourself. Thanks for asking.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-18-07 AT 01:29PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Jun-18-07 AT 01:28?PM (MST)

>freedivr,
>
>Were you not around when there
>was no internet applications and
>you had to pay up
>front in every state? It
>wasn't that long ago. Now
>everybody thinks they should get
>a shot at the best
>tags without having to front
>some money. BS. You should
>have to pay full tag
>fees up front in every
>state. Then maybe it wont
>take so long to draw
>these coveted tags. Where is
>your information coming from for
>the few million in interest?
>I'd like to see the
>numbers. Also, yeah the draw
>deadline was back in April
>but your going to sit
>there and tell me that
>it doesn't take time to
>put thousands of applicants into
>the computer, run the draw,
>figure out who gets a
>refund and then distribute those
>refunds? What planet do you
>live on? Again, show me
>the numbers about the revenue
>from interest.
>
>
>
>
>
>It's Bush's fault!!!


The numbers I saw came from a recent issue of Colorado Outdoors, published by the Colorado DOW, which I would say is a pretty good source for that info. Did you by any chance think they DIDN'T earn interest on those millions of dollars? Of COURSE they do. It'd be dumb not to and I'm sure it's part of their strategy for asking for the whole amount in advance. I don't understand why you, though, would object to the format that UTAH Fish and Game has, I think that's cool and reasonable, to charge a fee but not extort the full amount for no dang good reason. Lordy knows why you asked this, but to answer, I live on the planet earth. Didn't know we had another choice, geeze.....chill dude.......

P.S. If these systems were at all in the interest of the hunter, there would be a way for you to either sell or to transfer the points at least to a family member or friend. If you stop hunting, as my father-in-law just did due to age, the pref. points you've earned/paid for just die. It could be a bunch better I think.

P.P.S. And please don't whine about my posts, they are simply pointing out facts and responding to others questions. L8r
 
>sremim,
>
>I also get amused at these
>interest and refund gripes. If
>the process is unacceptable do
>not put in. Just for
>arguments sake, lets say you
>give them $1000 in application
>fees. Lets say you earn
>10% on your money which
>you don't. For April, May,
>and June you lost out
>on a whopping 25 bucks
>max. In reality you probably
>lost a couple of bucks
>in interest.
>
>I agree 1000's upon 1000's of
>tags and applications probably take
>some time to sort through.
>I got my deer tag
>within days and a elk
>refund in 3 weeks. Pretty
>good I say.


ktc........ it ain't the money. Like most things, it's the principle.
 
It was a simple question, don't get your panties in a wad. No sh!t they earn interest. Would you rather they earn more money that way, or would you rather it be by raising tag fees? So in turn people can cry about having to pay more up front?

"to charge a fee but not extort the full amount for no dang good reason. "

Thats funny right there. No dang good reason huh? How about lower tag fees.



It's Bush's fault!!!
 
Dude.......they doubled the tag fees in Colorado since 2001, and part of the reason was to discourage non-residents from applying. If they raise it more, they'll discourage more. I don't think they worry too much about it. Just another new source of income (the interest) that they squeeze, that's all. It has a different effect (because you will get the $ back)on the applicants than raising fees, and i think that's why they do it..........

I don't wear panties....You?
 
divr,

I could go along with the principle argument IF they did something differently than published. The process goes usually pretty close to how they say it will, so I personally find it hard to get upset at them. Now, if they held the money for a few months longer than they said they would maybe I could get pissed.

It is expensive to apply, buy points, and tie up the money, but I know what I am getting into before hand so I have no gripe.
 
scremin............

Just wanted you to know that I also don't like it when folks throw out numbers but don't back it up with facts. Here's the facts, a scan out of the Colorado DOW magazine "Colorado Outdoors", May/June 2007, page 38. Income from interest earned = 2.6 Million. Keep in mind that this is a government agency, funded by taxpayers and hunters, who made 2.6 million dollars in interest from taxpayers cash in "their" bank.......Anyway, just wanted you to see the factoids cause you were wondering where I got em........here ya go..........

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Scremin, you've got an ally here. Who gives a rats ass if they hold our $$$ another week or 2?? I went to the PO Box 2day to get my #61 tag and there was my elk refund but no deer tag, :-(

So Colorado holds our $$$ another week or 2. Wyoming has had it since at least March 15th and they don't draw for another month. How can they draw and refund elk in less than a month and take 4 months to figure deer????

Kali hires temp help during the draw season which costs more $$$ and leads to mistakes. I'd rather the cost stay down and I lose a couple of bucks in interest rather than the accuracy of the draw.
 
freedivr,

Thanks for posting that. It is nice to see that someone can back up numbers with a source. I was not doubting that you read it somewhere, but it is nice to see you provided where.







It's Bush's fault!!!
 
I said that about the interest 4 months ago and got the same crappy answers from sremim ! bottom line is this. the government agency already- ALREADY gets our money for the tags/licenses. the interest they make off of tags/licenses is just like the interest we get- it is basically FREE MONEY !!!!! it has squat to do with whether or not they raise squat ! it is free cash nothing more ! they did NOTHING to earn it. the costs to run the draw are already included in the license/tag money. the wages paid to wardens is from taxes/licenses/tag money ! that millions of dollars they make is free cash dude ! all the states do it. arizona wants my money on june 26th. they get it. they sit on it in thier banks until AFTER the drawings are held. then they sit on our money, refunds or otherwise UNTIL several months pass by. that is millions of dollars- FREE DOLLARS they make each year- 2 and 3 times a year now ! colorado for non residents is like this. I had to send in my 300.and my sons youth 100- that $400 bucks they have had for awhile now- they have the draw- they have NOT refunded our money yet- they are sitting on my money right now ! they are making free money off of it right now- mine and about a million other hunters money. they do NOT have any way to decide how much interest they will make- depends on how many applicants, res vs non res, they have NO costs included in interest. it is FREE CASH ! now I applied in 4 states this fall. that is 4 states that are making free cash off my money. whether or not I draw squat does'nt matter they make free cash if I get a tag or not. they make free cash if I get a license or not. 4 states made free money off me and alot of other hunters. thats what pisses me off- it ain't whining dude it is fact ! tags/licenses or not- they make free cash either way !

Proud White Man !!!!!
M WAITE, AZ.
 
If you don't like the wait for a refund I have a suggestion, don't apply for the tags. keep your money and increase my odds.
 
wwwaaaaaa wwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaa wwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Cry me a river. HUNTERS BEWARE. All G&F departments are out to get you and your money. They will not sleep at night until they have it all. After all, we all really know that a draw can be done the next day after the application deadline, the tags and refunds can be mailed out the day after that, but they don't do it because they want "free" money. If you are so freaking attached to the money, as mentioned before, don't apply. I read a post on another site that says the DOW contracted with an out-of-state company to do the draw and they have had nothing but problems. Sound familiar? But lets just blame it all on the DOW and accuse them of keeping our money so they can make more. Why is it more and more people b!tch and complain about stupid things like this? Why don't you call the DOW and ask them why you haven't recieved your refund before coming on here and saying what SOB's and POS's they are? Its rediculous.




It's Bush's fault!!!
 
Here's a good one.....

I can't hunt Co this fall, but I applied for pref. points for DEER, ELK and ANTELOPE. Total sent was somewhere around 900 bucks.

Yesterday in the mail I get the first check back......$251 for BEAR.

Problem is, I didn't apply for bear. WTF?????
 
Re-read my last post. They used an out of state company that they have had nothing but problems with. Probably the same people AZ used.



It's Bush's fault!!!
 
piss off ! you're still full-o-the-poopy ! I am not sitting here waiting on a refund.
what you retards are whining about is useless. what I have been telling you for months now is
IT IS FREE CASH !!!!!
don't go giving us 9 million reason why they do this, reasons why they need it, or some crappy line that they somehow earned it. they earned NOTHING ! you need to realize they are receiving millions of dollars of FREE CASH ! and call it what it is. they know that if they ask early and refund late- they make millions of dollars on us all- thats what I said jerk off ! stop coming up with "poor game and fish" whaa they need that money, whaa they earned that money- they did NOT do 1 damn thing to earn that extra money- nothing ! it's free ! I am not sitting on the edge of my seat wondering when my money will be given back to me. but I am not thinking that "poor game and fish" crap either- they know EXACTLY what they are doing !

sremim you are now, and have always been a tool.
and for the record how many years in a row does the game and fish contract out to someone that screws up a draw before we can blame the g&f for hiring cheap labor ? you tell me because you are the expert at everything draw related. az has hired and fired 4 DIFFERENT INTERNET DRAW companies in 5 years- when oh exalted sremim can we finally put the blame where it belongs- squarely on the g&f dept for hiring stoopid people- ooops do you work for the g&f ? nm has crashed every year for 4-5 years in a row now- when can we blame them without upsetting you oh perfect full-o-poopy internet expert ?

thats what I thought

now go ahead and whine !!!!!

Proud White Man !!!!!
M WAITE, AZ.
 
Wow, someone is a little bitter. Whats the matter bad day? If you hate the G&F so much why do you support them by applying for and purchasing licenses and tags? It sounds to me like you have a few issues to deal with. It must suck to have that much hatred built up. I feel sorry for you.





It's Bush's fault!!!
 
no hatred built up here. I just hope someday you smarten up and give truthful accurate information instead of the crap you spew ! they get free money dude ! interest in an incentive for you to put your money in a certain bank. they pay customers interest when you put your money in thier banks- you get that free interest money for doing NOTHING but putting your money there. it is NOT earned. there are NO costs associated with this money, they never know how much they will make as that depends on how many apply and where they are from. all that state knows is they deposit OUR hunting money in thier banks- just like you and I do into our banks. then at the end when you want/need/spend that money you have more than you started with. they have MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS more than they started with- it is free money. no one earned squat. no one worked or spent that money. our tags and licenses pay for that other crap. interest is FREE CASH nothing more nothing less. and no I am not going to stop applying because I am not happy with the free money- you need to just call it what it is instead of defending it all the time.

Proud White Man !!!!!
M WAITE, AZ.
 
I never said it wasn't free money, so if I did please show me. What untruthful inaccurate information do I spew? Sorry, I didn't know it doesn't cost anything to run a draw, as you imply.

"no hatred built up here"

None at all. Yeah, it sounds like it.



It's Bush's fault!!!
 
This is hilarious.... all this for a simple question asking if anyone remembers when deer refunds are sent out. Damn, I'm sorry I asked the question. I think the horse is dead and has been for quite some time. Planning is half the fun.
 
Damn Dave, your a poop starter and ya didn't even know it ;0)
see ya in a few months... Jim
 
whatever travis. everyone knows it's free money just stop acting like the g&f departments don't make money on this. the free money far outweighs the costs of running a draw, paying for tags and refund checks. they make money every year.
you stop applying !

Proud White Man !!!!!
M WAITE, AZ.
 
I haven't received my deer refund yet (not complaining, just a fact).

By the way, it is free money and should not be sat on for months I agree, but printing and cutting checks isn't free either. The cost is not just for the draw process, but for sending the money back too. This is why electronic systems are so much more efficient when there is no physical check. I agree the interest amount is probably much more than the cost, but that's the price of the game we play.
 
Hey Jim - hope to see you in a few months too if I draw D. More than likely will.
I have accidently raised heck on here once before too. Must be good questions.... I'm starting to get excited for the trip out west. We'll know here in a couple weeks.
 
I dont care that they are making money off of my money, I am glad they are, this happens every year, who cares that some body is making free money off of your money, cry somewhere else, I wish utah would go back to paying for tags upfront, so that they could make some free money, and then cut conservation tags.
 
I think that the process is fine. Paying the money up front probably keeps quite a few from applying for points, unlike the previous Utah system and 1-2 months is not too bad to get a refund, definitely better than Wyoming's Deer and Antelope.

Most likely the DOW is getting a better return rate then most of those people applying would, so the money made on interest is probably quite a bit more than individuals would make. I am sure this money is part of the DOW's overall budget and if it was decreased, they would have to raise license fees some, so it might be in our best interest to allow them to handle the money for a few months. All in all, I think Colorado does a better job than most all other states.

Good luck in the draw.

Nino
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-29-07 AT 06:04PM (MST)[p]Free money or not if they didn't make that 2.6 million off the tag money where do you think they would find it, Yep your right in the next increase of tags fees or just sell more tags, Or better yet Just raise the NR tag fees,PLEASE KEEP USING MY TAG MONEY TO MAKE THE F&G MORE MONEY. at least it not going to cost me a arm and leg to hunt just a arm here and there.

Got both refunds about 10 days apart, Thanks But I would rather got a tag.
 
Yeah, nothing doin here either yet on deer or antelope refunds. Soon.......
 
Hunterman.....maybe you should've used a different last name on the application.......you know them gov't folks, when they read the word Wait(e), they will..... :)

Got my deer $ back on Monday.....
 
Havn't received my elk refund in the mail so I called today to see what was up. They said it was mailed on 6/11 and must be lost in the mail. They said I have to wait till July 23rd and call back then and they will send me a "lost in the mail affadivit". I fill it out and send it back. Looks like I'll be getting my refund sometime in December.
 

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