Ok now I see them. Sorry. When I looked before I was at work...maybe there was a block and they didn't come up. Pretty tight restrictions where I work when it comes to computers. Anyway now I see them. Always a possibility I suppose, but it doesn't look like anywhere near where I shot the bull on the was arch. I have no idea where the herd winters, but not really anything deserts like the pics anywhere I can think of....even within 20 or 30 miles. But who knows? Looks like a nice bull regardless. Congrats. I would be curious as to whereabouts you found them. General area. Send me a p.m. If you like and I will send one in return.