Southern Utah 5 day hunt?

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thebuckstopshere

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Any of you sad you don't get another weekend? I am. If the Southern Utah hunt stays five days, I would like to see it go Sat, Sun, Mon, then off for Tues, Wed, Thurs, Fri, and back on for Sat and Sunday the following weekend.

From what I saw, many hunters were killing anything with horns on Sunday and Monday. I won't lie, I was dang sad to leave without a buck. Overall, saw many many deer and 5-8 bucks that should be closer to shooters next year (if they made it).

Just a thought on the five days being two weekends. Really, I would like to see the hunt just extended back to 10 days.
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-25-07 AT 11:00AM (MST)[p]I'm probably going to make some people mad, but with all the pressure the wildlife has these days. They need to keep the 5 day hunt, make the muzz hunt a 5 day hunt and have archery 2 weeks. These animals get bothered in my opinion for way to long in the year. The solution for us addicts take pictures the rest of the time. PLEASE KEEP THE 5 DAY HUNT
 
Keep it a 5 day hunt! Let's keep a few bucks around! I also disagree with the weekend only thing. I think it is good "as is".
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I think the 5 day hunt is a good thing for the most part. Now if we could just find a way to reduce the pressure in some areas (smaller units?) during the 5 day hunt. When it's longer people hunt the weekend and then go home. Maybe they come back the next weekend and maybe they don't. With only 5 days they stay the whole time and the pressure never lets up. It's a mess really. We also need to figure out a way to keep people from shooting all the little fellers down South. I wonder sometimes if a shorter season makes most hunters a little less picky. There sure were LOTS of little bucks taken. I wonder what some of those bucks might have looked like in 4 or maybe 5 years? I guess we'll never know now...

I hope everyone had a fun hunt.

NvrEnuf
 
i really think the 5 day hunt has help'd,, true, lots of young bucks are taken...My brother, our hunting partner as well as myself let the young bucks go by, i pass'd up 8 bucks on the opener, i knew there was better..
We all tag'd out with the largest buck being a 5x6, Been hunting southern Utah for 32 years... i see more and more better deer each year..though unpopular with many, i really think the decisions made by UDWLR is helping the southern herd.... we'd stay'd on after the tags were filled... just to enjoy and be a part of the the southern Utah deer hunt
 
The Southern Utah unit cannot handle a 10 day hunt, and a split, weekends only hunt would be just as bad. As far as people shooting anything with antlers goes, that will always happen no matter how long the hunt is. I am satisfied with the 5 day hunt and I have been very succesful, and yet I still saw 3 170+ class bucks this morning the day after the hunt ended. Something must be working.
 
that wont happen for a while thats the entire point of the 5 day hunt. they want to get away from the two weekend deal cause thats obviously when everyone hunts is weekends! the weekend worriors need to spend more time during the week if they wanna kill
 
I agree with keeping the 5 day hunt. I don't believe that making a longer season would encourage people to take more mature deer. I think that a hunter will either wait and pass on smaller bucks, or will take the first buck they see. At least from my experience, most hunters will only be in the field one or two days anyway. The longer season probably only benefits the locals for the most part. Of course, the locals have told me that my season is five days, they have the rest of the year.
 
Freak, I had to hunt the Northern Region (10 day hunt). Did see a ton of bucks, but nothing bigger than a small 3 point. It was like D-Day. Everybody shot the first spike or fork-ed horn they seen. Obviously the ten day hunt didn't deture many from doing so.
I do like the "micro unit" idea. I wish they would have implemented that a long time ago.
It just seems that I see a lot more mature bucks in the Southern Region than in other areas of the state.
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I saw 4 racked bucks this morning that were living on borrowed time, only reason those bucks made it was the shortened season.
 
its going to stay 5 days forever I think..
seems to work...and its for the deer not for the hunters.
hunt hard do your home work and 5 days is plenty!
rm
 
I agree with the 5 day hunt.. to be completly honest, I wish they would make the whole state 5 days.. at least for a while.. I believe it would improve the quality and quantity of our deer herds
 
I concur!
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I agree the five day hunt is working. I don't really see how having five days split between two weekends would be any different than five straight days. It would likely actually lessen the pressure in the hills as out of state hunters would leave.

I guess I will have to be more assertive and take more time off next year.

Chit, I think some of you would be happy with an Opening day and nothing more. . . . Doesn't Colorado have three or four rifle seasons?
 
they do have 4 rifle hunts, but they also have many small areas where they can limit the number of tag holders and limit the pressure on deer.
 
Well I grew up in the southern region and up until this year (now that I live in NM)I had almost never missed a year and was always and still am in touch with lots of people who hunt up there. My opinion is to keep the 5 days just how it is. I remember not all that long ago considering a 20 inch 4 point a stud buck on that hunt. For the last few years there are reports of many 170 class deer and up being taken and one or two out right gaggers. This has started since the 5 day season and I believe it is working. Everyone cant and never will shoot monster bucks year in and year out and you are always going to have people shooting smaller yearling deer whether its a guy out there just to kill something or a younger hunter trying to put his or her first or second deer under there belt its going to happen. I say keep it like it is split weekends would not help a thing, and even if people are taking the whole hunt off the locals were hunting all ten days of the hunt normally anyways maybe not in there honey hole but they are still hunting every night after work so I imagine there is still less pressure even though people are taking the whole hunt off.
I personally have seen 2 and herd of 3 or 4 more bucks this year over 180 thats incredible and it wasn't happening very long ago.
 
The DWR will be recommending a return to a 9 day hunt aty the RAC's next month. Studies have them convinced the 5 day hunt didn't help any! Don't come after me, I am merely reporting what I was told by the Big Game Coordinator himself.

PRO
 
Thats the proposal. They claim the data shows a higher success ratio on a 5 day hunt than a 9 day hunt. I would like to see the data. They are also recommending that the Thousand Lakes LE deer unit be changed to General Season next year. Make sure you go to the RAC meetings in November.
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-25-07 AT 03:29PM (MST)[p]Maybe the DWR looks at winter patterns, drought years, predators and other factors that were hurting the herd prior to the start of the five day hunt and have not been as severe since the five day hunt.

I think a lot of you MMers are either only 21 years old or have a hard time with long term memory retention. All through the 1990's the Southern Region was the place to hunt. I started hunting there in the late 90's after going ten years without seeing a decent buck in the Central Region. I saw many big deer in the late 1990's in the Southern Region when it was a nine day hunt. Today, the "locals" are knocking the predators (yotes) to death in the Southern Region and will continue to do so. The winters in the Southern Region are less severe than in other parts of the state. Many areas of I-15 and I-70 now have deer management systems that were not in place five years ago. This is what affects deer numbers. In my humble opinion, adding a few days to the hunt in Southern Utah will not affect deer herd numbers.

The Central Region and Northern region have some nice deer now and the herds are much stronger than ten years ago. This because of climate patterns and less harsh winters and finally recovering deer numbers from the 1993 disaster of a winterkill. The deer numbers really don't have chit to do with the number of days in the hunt (at least the difference between nine and five) and if you think otherwise, you are kidding yourself.

Just an opinion, and I appreciate all other opinions.
 
Whats the logic/data there....that since there's not 2 weekends that people stay the full 5 days and are more succesful?
 
i hate the 5 day hunt we killed a 24 inch four point because we didnt see anything else i mean if it was nine days maybe we could catch up to better bucks but were we hunt it takes that many days to find a big one so i wish it was 9 day hunt again well lets hear about some southeastern or souther bucks taken
 
Going back to 9 days won't effect herd numbers in general, but it will effect the age class of bucks. The DWR has admitted that. You will end up having 9 days to look at 2 points. If that is all you want, you should be able to take your forky in 5 days. We need to keep it 5.

oakbrush
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-25-07 AT 08:24PM (MST)[p]http://wildlife.utah.gov/news/07-10/deer_elk.php

Making deer and elk seasons the same statewide
DWR proposals would give you more time to hunt
Many hunters believe that taking a few days off a hunting season means fewer deer will be taken.

But Division of Wildlife Resources surveys show that's not always the case: on average, Utah deer hunters take more deer during five-day deer hunts than they do during nine-day hunts.

That's why the DWR is recommending that the general rifle season in both the Southeastern and Southern regions return to a nine-day hunt for the 2008 season.

The DWR is also recommending that the statewide general spike bull elk hunt return to a 13-day season. That would make the spike season the same length as the state's general any bull elk season.

Some information regarding deer and elk management in Utah will also be discussed at a series of upcoming public meetings.

The meetings provide an opportunity to learn more about the proposals and to provide biologists with your input and suggestions.

Citizens from Utah's five Regional Advisory Councils will take the public input received to the Utah Wildlife Board when it meets in Salt Lake City on Nov. 29 to approve Utah's 2008 Big Game Guidebook.

Meeting dates, times and locations are as follows (two notes: the Southern Region meeting begins at 5 p.m. The Northern Region meeting is being held on a Monday):

Southern Region
Nov. 6
5:00 p.m.
Hurricane High School
345 W. Tiger Blvd.
Hurricane

Southeastern Region
Nov. 7
6:30 p.m.
John Wesley Powell Museum
1765 E. Main St.
Green River

Northeastern Region
Nov. 8
6:30 p.m.
Western Park, Room #2
302 E. 200 S.
Vernal

Central Region
Nov. 13
6:30 p.m.
Springville Junior High School
165 S. 700 E.
Springville

Northern Region
Nov. 19
6:00 p.m.
Brigham City Community Center
24 N. 300 W.
Brigham City

Providing more opportunity

"It might be hard to believe, but our harvest data shows that more deer are typically taken during five-day hunts than during nine-day hunts," says Anis Aoude, big game coordinator for the DWR.

The following chart compares five-day hunts in Utah to nine-day hunts. The chart begins in 1999, when Utah's first five-day deer hunt was held in parts of the Southeastern Region:

Year Season
length Average days
hunted Deer taken per
1,000 hunters
1999 5 days 3.2 470

9 days 3.9 321

2000 5 days 3.3 480

9 days 3.8 326

2001 5 days 2.9 330

9 days 3.6 275

2002 5 days 3.2 317

9 days 4.0 237

2003 5 days 3.0 224

9 days 3.7 241

2004 5 days 2.8 367

9 days 3.5 329

2005 5 days 3.1 282

9 days 3.5 229

2006 5 days 3.0 441

9 days 3.5 324



Aoude has some ideas about why fewer deer are typically taken during a nine-day hunt.

"I think it might have something to do with hunters putting in more effort during a five-day hunt," he says. "They know the hunt isn't going to last long, so they put some extra effort in. Because the hunt is fairly short, I think they're also willing to take one of the first deer they see."

A busy life and procrastination might also be factors.

"During a nine-day hunt, I think hunters are more selective. If they don't see a deer they want the first weekend, they know they can come back and hunt the second weekend," Aoude says. "But despite their best intentions, most hunters don't make it back the second weekend to hunt."

Aoude says Utah deer hunters hunt an average of three-and-a-half days during a five-day hunt. During a nine-day hunt, they hunt an average of four days.

"If Utah stays with a five-day hunt in southern Utah, four days including a weekend will be taken away from hunters," he says. "Most hunters wouldn't take advantage of the extra days, but those who would like to hunt some extra days could if we went to a nine-day hunt.

"That's very important for young hunters who are in school during the week and for those who have jobs that allow them to hunt only on the weekends."

More time to hunt spike elk

Another DWR proposal would give you more time to hunt spike bull elk in the state.

The DWR is recommending the general spike bull elk hunt return to a 13-day season. It's been nine days long for the past few years.

The general spike bull hunt would run from Oct. 4?16. Those are also the season dates the DWR is proposing for Utah's any bull elk hunt.

"The length of the spike bull elk hunt was shortened a few years ago when the age objective for bulls taken on limited entry units was lowered on most of the units," Aoude says. "Lowering the objective allows more permits to be issued and more bulls to be taken. The idea behind shortening the season was to save more spike bulls so they could grow into mature bulls."

Since that time, Aoude says the age objective on most of the elk units has been raised. Raising the objective means fewer bulls will be taken.

Even if there was a need to protect spike bulls, Aoude says keeping the season at nine days wouldn't make much of a difference. "The elk situation is the same as the deer situation," he says. "Even if the season is lengthened by four days, most hunters won't take advantage of the extra days."

Aoude says hunters who hunt nine-day elk seasons in Utah hunt an average of five days. That number increases to five-and-a-half days when the season is 13 days long.

Proposals for southern Utah

Some of the other big game proposals the DWR will present include the following for southern Utah:

Change the Fillmore, Oak Creek South bull elk unit from a limited entry unit to a general any bull elk unit.
"The habitat on the unit isn't very good for elk, and there aren't many bulls on the unit," Aoude says. "If you draw a tag for the unit, there's a pretty good chance you'll take a bull. But we can't offer many permits for the unit, and we don't believe it meets the requirements to be a limited entry unit."
Change the Plateau, Fishlake-Thousand Lake buck deer unit from a limited entry unit to a general season unit.
"This small unit rarely meets the minimum objective of 25 bucks per 100 does that each of Utah's limited entry deer units is supposed to meet," Aoude says.
"The unit is surrounded by private land, and deer move in and out of the unit a lot," he says. "General season hunters on the private land surrounding the unit take a lot of deer as they move to and from the unit."
Create a new general any bull elk unit in southeastern Utah. The unit would be on the east side of US-191, just east of the San Juan limited entry bull elk unit.
"The elk in this area could cause hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage to sunflowers that are being raised for biofuel," Aoude says. "We're hoping general season elk hunters can help reduce these losses by taking some of the elk."
For more information about the meetings, call the nearest Division of Wildlife Resources office or the DWR's Salt Lake City office at (801) 538-4700.
 
Anyone that says the five day hunt hasnt helped the quality of bucks dont have a clue what there talking about including the DWR. But they have never had a clue. By the way noch you sound as dumb as they are..........
 
Nochawk, it's hard to argue with raw data. I personally don't think season length really makes a difference. I'm from the opportunity camp. If hunters are hunting a meat buck i.e. 2 points or spikes, they will take one opening morning or any time they get the opportunity. Does it really have an impact on the quality of the herd? Probably not! We went 0 for 5 this year, but that's ok. We are head hunters. Another 4 days of hunting would be great in my book. The BIG BOYS are just as hard to find in 9 days as they are in 5. I'll defer to those that do the studies!

See BCB! I don't try to piss off normal Wardens!

RUS
 
I read about half of nochawks post until he got to the whole number thing. I dont care what there numbers say they are wrong. Maybe they better spend a little more time out there and look at the deer the last two years.
 
more hunters in the field for longer time means more deer killed. The thing about the 9 days is all the meat buck shotters kill there deer the first three days and go home. Then there is less presure on the rest of the bucks and they come out the last 3 or 4 days and they get killed to.
 
5 day hunt are pretty good, Most people don't stick out a 9 day hunt, I wish they would show the breakdown of the day that most of the deer are killed I bet it would show the first 2 days the most bucks are taken followed by 4th day least 2 days would be last day and the 3rd. IMO

Those that would like another weekend to hunt break out those calls and kill some coyotes.
 
i would support going back to a nine day hunt for the hunters and the deer. come down to the sand dunes an witness the slaughter for yourself. i gaurentee people are killing the first thing in sight for lack of time to find a bigger one. also, the deer hunt for a lot of people is spending time camping with their families than accually killing a deer. and it would be nice to have to weekends to do it. if i thought that keeping it five days was going to help the deer herd than i'd be all for it. but the truth is wether its five or nine the same amount of bucks hitting the ground will be the same. so you might as well give people the chance to spend time with their kids out in the hills.
 
I can see a big problem with the data.

For example,
No 9 day hunt took place in the same region as the 5 day hunt.

So are they compairing the harvest in Logan Canyon against the prime harvest in the best southern areas. Generaly the areas that are 9 day have very few bucks.
 
I agree with UFO. How can you campare harvest in one region campared to another. There is more deer and deer hunters in the Southern Units, that is why you have more harvest. Hello! They are putting a spin on the data for their objectives.

Oakbrush
 
The DWR's objectives for deer are buck/doe ratios and herd numbers. The directive MANDATED from the current Deer Management Plan, which is up for review in 2008 FYI, tells the DWR to manage for certain deer populations for specific areas and buck/doe ratios, NOT for 'quality'. Like it or not, the buck/doe ratios are improving statewide. As much as I dislike agreeing with Nochawk, he is correct.

PRO
 
manage the herds for the herds, not the hunters.
break the areas up into smaller units, manage for deer numbers
and buck/doe ratios and you could have a 30 day season.
Like Nevada does.
I've always wondered what with the awesome habitat Utah has if they would manage smaller units, the great deer hunting of yesteryear would return.
 
OH!!!

IF SOMEBODY FROM THE DWR SAYS IT Pro SUCKS IT HARD!!!

IF THE DWR SAYS IT,IT'S GOSPEL ACCORDING TO Pro!!!

IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I JUST POSTED Pro,REFER TO RUS'S POST JUST ABOVE THIS ONE!!!

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THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
 
I have hunted deer in utah for nine or ten years. I have hunted pretty hard on most of them. I have had a close call or two on good deer but they were few and far in between! So the last two years i have hunted out of state killed two deer both over 180 and they will be hanging on the wall. DWR-5 days or 50 days its not worth my time. Utah you better add more tags next year cause you wont be gettng my money for one! See you on the other side!
 
use the area boundaries you already use for limited entry elk.
Can you imagine if the Beaver unit was managed for deer with
30 bucks per 100 does. Or the dutton. or Panguitch Lake
or the Pahvant.
WOW!!
 
I just read nohawk post, tell your friend aoude the reason why the oak creek sucks is because thats what he manages it for! It used to be good then they let everyone shoot the sht out of them. And they killed some awesome bulls, then after years of shooting the sht out of them it sucks, and know u think we should just open it up and shot more! That'll help! I got an idea lets open the henry up for more tags and see how many good bucks are left. Then after years of shooting more bucks off the henrys we can open in back up to an open unit. And then we can be the only state without a good deer unit! Sorry for all the negative comments but dmn I got ten deers points in utah and i would trade them for 2 points in colorado!
 
RUS, WTF???

All I did was post what the Big Game Coordinator stated and I am sure he will repeat it at the RAC's. You and bessy are real biologists I suppose and know more than the DWR folks, what was I thinking?:eek:

PRO
 
Does Utah have a mandatory reporting of hunter success?
If they don't, how do they know that as many deer are killed in 5 days as there are in 9?

How about a 7 day hunt? 2 more days without throwing in that extra weekend.
 
pro
I would have to say you might be the only one on here that dont know more than the DWR. And if you are really a guide you better get off the computer and find out whats really going on out in the hills instead of what the DWR is telling you.
 
pro your not really a guide are you. You got to be a 10 year old kid that dreams of working for the DWR someday. Because thats all we here is DWR
 
Yep you are right swd, I am up past my curfew, so I best be off to bed. I need my sleep for 4th grade biology tomorrow, so I can get an edumacation like all you smart fellars here.

PRO
 
What UPS said.

Since the DWR refuses to cut tags I say the 5 day hunt is the only thing keeping a management system that is already on life support alive.

Mike
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-26-07 AT 03:34PM (MST)[p]Don't know UPS, but I think I like him:)

I'd also trade 10 Utah deer points for 2 Colorado points. Heck, I'd trade 'em for no Colorado points and likely kill a bigger deer every year than most hunters in Utah will have a chance at in a lifetime of our current piss poor deer management:)

I think just about anybody that hunts the Southern region would tell you that the hunting is better than it was.

The DWR can spin data and numbers all they want, but I believe the 5 day hunt is about the only smart thing Utah's DWR has done for mule deer in years.......

Come on SFW and MDF-squash this idea FAST!
 
I like the idea of moving to a ten day hunt. The buck to doe ratio has improved it is time to move it back to ten days.
 
I sort of agree with hunterted, I think it would be better because of the fact that everyone has a little more time to hunt so they don't have to shoot a forky "my favorite" I love and spikes they are a true trophy. Anyway people would not want to take the first thing in sight because they have a little more time to hunt. I may be wrong because I always I'm, that is what the wife tells me anyway.
 
I have mixed feelings on the 5 day hunt. I hunted all five days, I seen over 100 does and fawns, 12-13 bucks,(2 shooters) the rest spikes and two points. I missed a big four point. I couldn't see a branch that deflected the bullet. Dang it!

I think five is to short and ten is to long. Maybe seven or eight days would be a good compromise. This was the first time hunting that I seen Bucks all five days. It was amazing! I believe I would of got that four point if I would of had one or two more days. I knew where he went. But who knows?

MTK23
 
If someone is willing to pass up smaller bucks to get a big one, then it shouldn't matter if it's a five day or a nine day hunt. I have never been on a general season hunt where guys aren't dropping forked horns all over the place. I am not buying the reason people are shooting small bucks is because of the shortened season. Watch a forked horn run accross an open meadow in one of the northern regions on opening day and see how many hunters hold out for a better buck because of the longer season! I would much rather have a five day hunt with a chance at shooting a nice buck, then be able to hunt for nine days without an opportunity to shoot a mature deer. Anyone who likes to hunt big deer should fight to keep the rifle hunt at 5 days!
 
Well Torch! this is what the Dwr plans to do.


Making deer and elk seasons the same statewide
DWR proposals would give you more time to hunt

Many hunters believe that taking a few days off a hunting season means fewer deer will be taken.

But Division of Wildlife Resources surveys show that's not always the case: on average, Utah deer hunters take more deer during five-day deer hunts than they do during nine-day hunts.

That's why the DWR is recommending that the general rifle season in both the Southeastern and Southern regions return to a nine-day hunt for the 2008 season.

The DWR is also recommending that the statewide general spike bull elk hunt return to a 13-day season. That would make the spike season the same length as the state's general any bull elk season.

Some information regarding deer and elk management in Utah will also be discussed at a series of upcoming public meetings.

The meetings provide an opportunity to learn more about the proposals and to provide biologists with your input and suggestions.

Citizens from Utah's five Regional Advisory Councils will take the public input received to the Utah Wildlife Board when it meets in Salt Lake City on Nov. 29 to approve Utah's 2008 Big Game Guidebook.

humm that's wierd isn't it?
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-27-07 AT 11:09AM (MST)[p]

I'm fully aware of what the division plans to do. No, I don't think it's weird at all for the division to screw up a good thing. If it gets changed back to nine days the number of mature deer will drop again and I'm sure the division will then blame it on drought, predation, or some other factors. Well..I take that back, the division isn't concerned about having mature deer around....they only care about buck to doe ratios. I'm sure I will see forked horns being dropped all over the place just like they were when it was a five day hunt if it gets changed back too. At least the UDWR has a mandatory harvest report, so we all know how accurate their numbers are. There has been an increase in the amount of mature deer over the last couple of years, but obviously some of you don't think the 5 day season has anything to do with it and I respectfully disagree.
 
It seems to me I remember when the season was 10 days that every year there would be a couple of bruisers brought to town
taken on the second weekend. I assume that happens all over Utah, not just in my hometown.
So, I have mixed feelings about that. By having a 5 day season you're protecting some of these mature deer. However, do we want to leave them for breeding or do we want hunters to have a chance at them?
A lot of hunters I know in Nevada wait to go hunting until the end of the season because the weather and maybe start of the rut will give them a better chance at a big buck.
I think you're right though, DWR manages for numbers and ratios
they don't care how many bucks are mature or young.
I think that they think. "We have limited entry units for trophy hunters. We will manage general areas for numbers not mature bucks."
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-27-07 AT 01:05PM (MST)[p]I would have to say the five day hunt is a great idea. Over the last couple of years i have seen a dramtic improvement in the number of buck and also the size of bucks! I saw more 23 and 24 inch bucks than i have ever seen before! I Also saw may trophies buck than ever before! I spend 30 to 60 days a year in the field so im no amateur! People need to be patient changes dont come over night! It takes a couple of years! Over the last three years me and my brother have taken, shot at and seen Numerious trophies! Three years ago i took a 25 inch 4by4 and was 25 inches tall, last year i took a 28 inch 4by4 that scored 170, and this year my brother took a 7 by 8 that was 26 inches wide. I have hunted the same 3200 acres for the last 13 yeas so this isnt just an opinion its the facts. The five day hunt dosent allow everyone to slaughter these deer on ther winter range! Anyone can go to the winter range and think there a hunter and kill a nice deer! The fun of the hunt is the challenge! This is just my opimion! The numbers are up in my unit 21 bucks to every 100 does the highest they been in thirteen years! AND IT SHOWS!!!!!!!!!!!

FOR ALL YOU IDIOTS THERE ARE MORE DEER BEING KILLED ON THE FIVE DAY HUNT THAN THE 10 DAY HUNT YEARS AGO IS BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE DEER NOW BECAUSE OF THE 5 DAY HUNT!!!!!!!!!!
 
IDIOTS????
I am pro 5 days ......
I am a nonres hunter who passes
on those forked horn dinks.. so please be more kind!
5 days is plenty, if I don't get my buck its my fault,
I played cat and mouse with a very nice buck! (CLOSE TO 190") (last year and he won, 6th day he would have been in the freezer, I had fun and then theres next time) I am good with that. I DID SEE AN AWFUL LOTS OF FORKED HORNS BEING SHOT THOUGH AND THOUGHT....WOW!
RM
 
NVdrhntr wrote: "I think you're right though, DWR manages for numbers and ratios, they don't care how many bucks are mature or young. I think that they think. "We have limited entry units for trophy hunters. We will manage general areas for numbers not mature bucks." "

That is EXACTLY what the DWR is mandated to do per the Deer Management Plan(DMP), that directs how to manage the deer herds. All of you folks running the DWR down should maybe find out what the DWR is MANDATED to follow. This DMP was passed and approved by the five RAC's and the Wildlife Board. If you don't like the current plan, you need to get a hold of the folks that will be on the deer committee who will be coming up with the new MDP. They will be meeting next year. To accuse the DWR of being "idiots" when they are doing what the public asked for is "IDIOTIC" at best.

PRO
 
That being the case then:
Those of us who want better quality instead of quantity on the general units, need to make our voices heard at the RAC's (will they listen to a non-resident by the way?) and request slightly higher buck to doe ratios on the general units. Which in turn will mean a few less tags given out. I'm all for that!!
 
Why not just make it a 30 day hunt. Just think of how many 2 points we could save if guys could be picky for 30 days?
 

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