Colorado winterkill?

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It could be looming on the horizon for deer. Some areas in the central mountains are reporting the most December snowfall since the fatefull winter of 83-84 when Colorado experienced its last significant winterkill.

The storm pattern doesn't seem to be breaking and its deep snow conditions on the winter range.
 
I just passed 24in in the last 18 hours here in N Utah... just wait till this storm hits you in Colorado ....

Im the next thing to snow bound right now...
 
I think our good luck may finally be up.

Hate to hear that, especially with the deer making a comeback.

I spoke with a guy today that said deer are already starting to die over there.

I'm surpirsed there hasn't been more talk of it in Utah. I guess most areas are OK, but I can tell you that if it doesn't warm up soon and melt some snow in the NE region we may witness the last blow to our struggling deer herds.

It was -18 at my house a week or so ago with more snow on the ground than there's been in atleast 10 years. Not too mention we don't have the winter range we had 10 years ago.

And I've got 6" of new snow sitting in the driveway......:(

Hopefully a "January Thaw" is in the works.
 
Keep us posted Colorado! That does not sound good at all. As Prism said, a January thaw would be nice. This last storm should be the end of it for a week or so?

Damn! It seems you want the moisture because drought kills them then too much moisture kills them too.....
 
No doubt we could use the moisture. Hopefully it'll slow down some though and get warm enough to melt off some ridges and hillsides.

The bad deal around here is where I use to see deer wintering now all I can find is elk. Most of the deer are right around town trying to find something to eat among the new subdivisions.

It does sound like lots of good moisture down south for growing some huge elk racks for '08;)

Could be a banner year for Southern Utah and Northern Arizona if it keeps this up.
 
I guess it was a good thing that there was no snow and record high temps during 3rd and 4th seasons. I sure didn't think so when I had a 4th season tag in my pocket, every time I looked up at that blazin hot sun I would get so p!ssed. Hopefully it was all for the good of the deer.

I don't think we have as much snow yet, as the last major die off in Utah and Idaho as we did during the winter of '92-'93.
 
>I'm surpirsed there hasn't been more
>talk of it in Utah.
>I guess most areas are
>OK, but I can tell
>you that if it doesn't
>warm up soon and melt
>some snow in the NE
>region we may witness the
>last blow to our struggling
>deer herds.

Central Utah has insane snow right now. Went snowmobiling Christmas eve, powder was so deep even the guys with the 151" tracks were getting buried right and left. I sunk my sled in powder so deep you could only see the top edge of the windshield, it was chest deep when I stepped off. That is at only 6500ft elevation.

The big problem now is that snow packed down and froze so the deer have to dig through all of the new snow to hit 20" of hard crusty deep snow, then dig through that to get at food.

Its sad for the deer for sure!


-DallanC
 
So. Utah is as good as we can get. Lots of snow up high and rain and small snow storms in the valleys. Temps have stayed reasonable for the most part.

The worst thing so far has been the road kills. I see two or three new kills every day going to work.

Hope things thaw out for you folks north and east for a while.
 
An email I just received from Colorado DOW; looks like they see the urgency of the situation. Let's pray the "winter feeding " works.


"DIVISION OF WILDLIFE TO CONDUCT EMERGENCY BIG GAME FEEDING OPERATION IN
GUNNISON AREA


The Colorado Division of Wildlife is planning to start emergency feeding operations for big game animals in the Gunnison Basin as soon as possible.

Deer will be targeted primarily because they are most affected by adverse weather conditions. Feed and hay will also be provided to bighorn sheep, pronghorn and elk.

Providing feed to wildlife requires a major effort and the DOW is
seeking volunteers to help. DOW wildlife managers are now working on the
logistics of the operation. While some feeding will start as soon as
material is available, the effort will increase as feed - specially
formulated for deer - becomes available from a mill next week.

Wildlife officials are concerned that deep snow and extremely cold
temperatures in the Gunnison basin are causing deer to deplete their
energy reserves too early this winter. Without supplemental food,
mortality could reach unacceptable levels. The snowpack in the Gunnison
Basin is now at 143 percent of average. It is difficult for deer to push
through deep, crusted snow to get to natural food sources. Big game
animals lose 30 percent of their body weight during a normal winter.
When they lose more than that their survival can be severely
compromised.

In the Gunnison area, there are about 260 bighorn sheep in several herds
where feed could effectively be delivered. Bighorns winter in steep
terrain that doesn't usually hold snow, so they are not as affected by
the snow depth.

About 600 pronghorn also live in the area and efforts will be made to
feed them. Unfortunately, the DOW has had limited success in getting
pronghorn to take supplemental feed. The DOW will attempt to feed them
with smaller wafers that have worked previously.

"So far, deer appear to be in pretty good condition for this time of
year given the current weather and snow depth," explained J Wenum, area
wildlife manager in Gunnison.
"We haven't seen any weather-related mortality to speak of yet. But from
experience we know that the snow conditions could soon start to take a
toll on deer."

Officials from the Bureau of Land Management, the U.S. Forest Service
and Gunnison County are helping the DOW develop strategies for the
emergency feeding plan. The DOW would also like to work with private
landowners to establish feeding sites.

Deer have more specific nutritional needs than elk and cannot survive on
hay. The feed formulation that will be used was developed after
extensive nutritional research by DOW years ago. Ingredients include
wheat and other grains, dehydrated alfalfa and cottonseed meal. The feed
is formulated into wafers so that it will stay on top of the snow. Deer
will receive about 3 pounds of the feed per day.

"We will not be trying to feed every deer in the Gunnison Basin. We will
be looking for areas where the animals are most concentrated and where
we can derive the most benefit," Wenum said.

Wildlife managers will work to keep deer and elk separated. The DOW
plans to provide hay to elk - but not because they need it to survive.
Elk are aggressive and will quickly displace deer if easy food is
available. Placing hay in specific areas will help keep them away from
deer feeding areas. Hay may also be placed to move elk away from
ranchers' hay stacks or highways.

Because deer derive very little nutritional value from hay, homeowners
and landowners are urged not to feed hay to deer that gather on their
property.

The feeding operation will probably continue through February or until
conditions moderate. By early March officials hope the weather will be
getting warmer and that natural forage areas will open up. Big game
animals prefer natural forage and will move to those areas as soon as
they become available.

Previous winter feeding operations were conducted in the Gunnison area
in 1984 and 1997.

Volunteers will be needed for a variety of jobs. To haul feed the DOW
needs trailers and a substantial number of vehicles that can handle
snowy conditions, especially snowmobiles, snowcats and four-wheel drive
vehicles. Volunteers also are needed who can travel through deep snow on
cross-country skis and snowshoes.

Volunteers who want to help in the Gunnison area should contact Jennifer
Kleffner, southwest region volunteer coordinator at (970)375-6704.

Wildlife managers are also monitoring weather and snow conditions in
other areas of western Colorado, including the Eagle Valley, the Aspen
area, the Meeker/Craig area and the lower Yampa Valley.

Throughout western Colorado travelers are urged to watch carefully for
wildlife along roads. As snow accumulates animals will move toward open
areas. The DOW also requests that people avoid disturbing wildlife at
this time of year. Do not attempt to get close to animals; observe them
at a distance using binoculars or a spotting scope. If they are forced
to move they will expend energy unnecessarily.

# # #


The Colorado Division of Wildlife is the state agency responsible for
managing wildlife and its habitat, as well as providing wildlife related
recreation. The Division is funded through hunting and fishing license
fees, federal grants and Colorado Lottery proceeds through Great
Outdoors Colorado.


For more information about Division of Wildlife go to:
http://wildlife.state.co.us.
The Christian
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-09-08 AT 05:36PM (MST)[p]Just had 3 little bucks and a doe w/ fawn wander through my yard looking for something to eat. The bucks looked OK, but the same couldn't be said for the doe or fawn.

And that dang weather guy just said another storm tomorrow night and the next day.

Enough already!

Happy to hear that Colorado is once again being PROACTIVE in protecting its deer herds.........

Thanks for the update!
 
Looks bad from what I am reading about the deer herds even if they feed them alot will still die.Anytime there is a big winterkill the hunting is just not the same its to bad it takes so long for mule deer to mature into nice bucks and it only takes one bad winter to destroy a great herd.
Keep us posted about Colorado.Northern Utah will be next these back to back heavy snow storms we are getting is about all I can take thinking of the animals that will die if they dont catch a break.I have never shoveled this much snow during the 11 years I have lived here.Its looking bad for the deer if you ask me.I heard it was 35 below up around Labarge Wyoming so it could be the year alot of deer die off in many states.
 
Here is a picture I took yesterday, just west of the basin bout 300 miles.
Cabin fever is startin to set in.

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Send some snow our way. We will gladly take it. Here I live in North Dakota 3 miles from canada and it is brown as can be we have had about 2 inches all winter. It was just 42 degrees here the other day. The middle of January and all I needed was a hooded sweatshirt and a vest on the last day of pheasant season. Hope the deer make it through this ok as I should draw a unit 44 3rd season tag next year. Might have to wait a couple more years if there is a big dieoff.
 
Southern Wyoming is looking bad too. For everything! There are groups of hundreds of antelope that have moved into the mule deer winter range. I've never seen this many antelope in groups. The old muley does would have probably made it but now with the antelope moving in the does and the fawns are all going to drop like flys. The deer that are wintering futher up the mountain look pretty good, but if it keeps snowing were gonna lose alot of them too!

Just like everyone else said this is the worst they have seen it since 83-84. In the desert around here you can't even see the sage anymore cause of the wind. Haven't been up snowmachining on the mountain yet but i can't even imagine how much snow is up there.

PY
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-10-08 AT 08:23AM (MST)[p]I don't think there is any more snow here in n. utah as there was in '03-04', in fact i trap cat's, and in my area i know there is not as much. but damn co. has me scared, thought 08' was the year for 4th season, guess we'll see! bad thing is by the time we know the true damage, we will already have to have our apps in. they say it's after the bucks shed, that is when most of them die off.
 
I live right in the winter range of middle park and it went something like this... vitually no kill cause of incredible warm weather in 3rd +4th season. Good snow in Dec.followed by a nasty wind which bared all the knife edges facing west- a good thing-BUT it packed the snow so tight where it ended up that a fat guy (me) could walk on top, this crust was 4-5" thick. Then last week -25 deg. to solidify everything. Then it RAINED, in Jan no less, never seen that before. then we got another foot of snow which is still coming- although today looks nice. We have hundreds of deer down right now by our house all looking good (but they always look good in Jan). Once that rain layer freezes in more - 25 weather it's gonna be ugly. I also have cabin fever bad but can't justify taking the dogs for a walk cause of the deer we'ld push.

It does make for some awesome viewing in the short term, lots of good bucks, nothing over 180 yet but the biggest are just starting to show up.
It reminds me of why I don't live in the city when reaching for the TP I look out the window and see a 175" buck staring at the window cause he caught the movement and can't figure out what it was.
The fawns are going to be eagle chow this year.
 
I wish I could report positively from a meteorological standpoint, but I can't. Right now the models are forecasting hideous weather in NW and west-central CO in the 5-8 day period, I'm talking -20s and lower temps and potentially heavy snow. That could change but it's been consistent for the progs for next week for 3 days now.

I don't live in Craig but I was there a week ago and the snow was deep....they've had a big storm in the last 2 days but next week could be the worst of the weather so far for them this winter.

Doug
 
Last year the winter kill was significant East of the Divide, this year it looks like it will be the West side.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

Thanks for the update.

Later,
Vince
 
PY - we noticed the same thing the other day down in the valley - the critters towards Battle looked pretty good, but there's nowhere near the deer in the Dad junipers that there has been in years past. Hundreds closer to town, along with alot of goats that usually winter up between Wild Horse and Adam's. Seems like the tough winters usually push alot of deer west along the border, but the drought has really taken a toll over in the Powder country, with alot of the really good bitterbrush and mahogany stands deader than a turd over the last five years or so.

The antelope are herded up in Rawlins for the first time since the big die-off in '83-84, and there is a pretty large elk herd right off the interstate herded up with 500 - 1000 goats. Haven't seen wildlife winter in many of these areas since the '80s. If we don't get a break of about 2 weeks, we're going to start seeing them pile up...
 
Yesterday I got out and walked the traintracks next to the house for maybe 2 miles, there were 12-15 fresh dead ones that had not been there 3 days earlier. Here they get weak and the train or the highway do the dirty work of finishing them off. The elk are smarter and seem to never get hit, but I've watched herds of deer get split down the middle and the fawns on the wrong side from mama dive right under the train, dumb, dumb ,deer.
 
This is awful, it's supposed to warm up into the 40's here in eastern Oregon next week so lets hope this warm front heads east and gives those animals a break.

I don't want to take this thread away from the intended updates on the deer in Colorado because not only am I concerned about them suffering but I have 11 points myself. BUT, I remember some of you a while back wanting to change the landowner tag system in Colorado and saying to hell with the landowners. in the article posted here it sounds as if private landowner cooperation is important to the feeding program and overall survival of the deer, now maybe you can understand what some of us were saying about needing to work with the landowners. we all need to work together if we're going to have healthy game herds, if Colorado starts a donation program for feeding like some states do please post it. I'll donate and probably a lot of others here would.
 

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