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Jan-20-08, 
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" Mountain Food Plots?"

Has anyone used food plots on western mountain properties to attract Muledeer and or Elk, or any other attractants like what is used on whitetails?

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 Subject   Author   Message Date   ID 
 RE: Mountain ...  nochawk      Jan-20-08   1 
  RE: Mountain ...  zekers      Jan-20-08   2 
   RE: Mountain ...  BuckSnort      Jan-20-08   3 
    RE: Mountain ...  mtmuley      Jan-20-08   4 
     RE: Mountain ...  zekers      Jan-20-08   5 
      RE: Mountain ...  joesikora      Jan-20-08   6 
 RE: Mountain ...  jcmuleys      Jan-20-08   7 
 RE: Mountain ...  ZR1      Jan-20-08   8 
  RE: Mountain ...  Wanted      Jan-21-08   9 
   RE: Mountain ...  mtmuley      Jan-21-08   10 
    RE: Mountain ...  joesikora      Jan-21-08   11 
     RE: Mountain ...  Wanted      Jan-21-08   12 
      RE: Mountain ...  ohiohntr      Jan-22-08   13 
       RE: Mountain ...  timberline_...      Jan-22-08   14 
        RE: Mountain ...  HuntNevada      Jan-22-08   15 
        RE: Mountain ...  pete37901      Mar-16-08   22 
 RE: Mountain ...  1muleman      Jan-23-08   16 
  RE: Mountain ...  accubond      Mar-16-08   17 
   RE: Mountain ...  Gator      Mar-16-08   18 
    RE: Mountain ...  cohntr6      Mar-16-08   19 
 RE: Mountain ...  gb22      Mar-16-08   20 
  RE: Mountain ...  polarbear      Mar-16-08   21 
   RE: Mountain ...  Califelksla...      Mar-17-08   23 
    RE: Mountain ...  nontypical      Mar-17-08   24 
     RE: Mountain ...  accubond      Mar-17-08   25 
      RE: Mountain ...  264winmag      Mar-17-08   26 
      RE: Mountain ...  cocinaelkta...      Mar-17-08   27 
 RE: Mountain ...  ZR1      Mar-17-08   28 
  RE: Mountain ...  BuckSnort      Mar-19-08   29 
   RE: Mountain ...  polarbear      Mar-19-08   30 

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nochawk
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Jan-20-08, 
08:06 AM (MST)
1. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

I think that the alfalfa fields work pretty good for that...no need for anything else..corn fields also work for Northern whitetails...

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zekers
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Jan-20-08, 
08:46 AM (MST)
2. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

Mix in wheat with the alfalfa when you drill it. Works great for the late season. Oats are great for elk.

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BuckSnort
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Jan-20-08, 
10:16 AM (MST)
3. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

I think it's illegal in most western states and falls under baiting...

I think it would take the fun out of hunting western game but thats just my opinion..

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mtmuley
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Jan-20-08, 
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4. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

Elk come to alfalfa like moths to a flame. You can't keep them out of it. But around here they aren't food plots. They're ranches. mtmuley

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zekers
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Jan-20-08, 
10:36 AM (MST)
5. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

It is illegal to hunt over bait. It is not illegal to hunt private agriculture such as alfalfa, corn, wheat, whatever.

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joesikora
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Jan-20-08, 
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6. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

Don't waste time or money on Bio-logic etc. Alfalfa is better. Have a farmer plant it and harvest it. It's a win win.


Joe

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Jan-20-08, 
08:11 PM (MST)
7. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

I have had great success planting forage turnips. Elk and Deer will dig through snow to find it. Had fair sucess with wheat and clovers. But I would plant forage turnips.
jc

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ZR1
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Jan-20-08, 
08:37 PM (MST)
8. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

>Has anyone used food plots on
>western mountain properties to attract
>Muledeer and or Elk, or
>any other attractants like what
>is used on whitetails?


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Wanted
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Jan-21-08, 
06:50 PM (MST)
9. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

I would be really careful what you plant. Some of that Bio-logic etc. may be invasive to native plants and you may end up doing more harm than good.


Doe hunters squat to piss!

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mtmuley
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Jan-21-08, 
07:33 PM (MST)
10. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

"Doe hunters squat to piss" I've put an assload of does in the freezer over the years, and I seem to stand straight up when I am pissing. Shot a bunch of cow elk too. Stupid statement. mtmuley

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joesikora
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Jan-21-08, 
07:55 PM (MST)
11. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

Here in IL I've shot a lot of doe's. We don't shoot 2 1/2 or 3 1/2 year old bucks, and I feel the same about elk. I would rather shoot a cow than shoot a elk that needs to have the time to grow up.

QDMA


Joe

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Wanted
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Jan-21-08, 
09:41 PM (MST)
12. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

Well, here in Oregon we don't have many deer to shoot yet they still insist on killing does. We've got no way of controlling our predator population thanks to a stupid ballot measure banning hounds and baiting of bears. If and when our population is at or near its capacity, I'll change my mind but until then................


Doe hunters squat to piss!

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ohiohntr
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Jan-22-08, 
11:37 AM (MST)
13. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

Wanted,
It's people like you who give the anti-hunters ammo to use. The majority of hunters in this country hunt for food. I'm not saying holding out for a trophy is bad, but belittling other hunters for harvesting food is. One of the antis main claims is that many hunters only hunt for sport and the big rack, and could care less about the meat. Comments like yours certainly don't hurt their point.

If you or any other hunter doesn't want to shoot a doe, that is fine. In Ohio, I could shoot 2 if I wanted. This year I had dozens of opportunities to shoot a doe, but chose not to because the numbers are down a little in the area I live. But I didn't rip my 2 neighboors who did shoot does for the meat.

Your comments would be better used directed at the fish and game department, then showing your ignorange on a message board.

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Jan-22-08, 
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14. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

Leave the food plot BS in the east. Mule deer arent near as dumb as those stupid fruit loop eatin whitetails. Leave the west the way it is and dont ruin it.

Timberline

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Jan-22-08, 
10:17 PM (MST)
15. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

LAST EDITED ON Jan-22-08 AT 10:22 PM (MST)

you plant a food plot in the mountains were mule deer and elk roam and i will give you serious props for doin it in the schell rock and other stuff, and tell me how it worked out for ya,right after someone bails your a$$ outta jail of course... WHO THE HELL ASKS THIS QUESTION!?!?!?!

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Mar-16-08, 
09:53 PM (MST)
22. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

"fruit loop eating white tails"? Apparently you haven't hunted those so called "fruit loop eating white tails"..Almost willing to bet you wouldn't even get a shot off at one...Mule deer are harder to hunt just because of the habitat they live in..Not because they are any smarter.

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Jan-23-08, 
07:29 AM (MST)
16. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

Fire are the best food plots ever here in the west but everyone wants to put them out.

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accubond
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Mar-16-08, 
11:31 AM (MST)
17. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

why take the sport out of western hunting with food plots. Look at whats happening to the world of whitetail hunting. Its not whos the best hunter anymore, its who has the most money for land and food plots to grow huge bucks. Hunting out west is hunting in its purest form and it would be a damn shame to see it ruined by people that are to mentally and physically lazy to adapt to the game they persue.

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Mar-16-08, 
12:52 PM (MST)
18. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

Buy 10 acres in the low areas(Foothills, level ground) below the mountains and plant it to oat and alfalfa the deer and elk will love it, If you can Buy and plant 50 acres, They need all the help they can get in the late fall and winter.

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Mar-16-08, 
03:36 PM (MST)
19. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

Eastern hunting and western hunting can be different.
I am new to AZ and have the opportunity to hunt 'whitetail' and have had to adopt some eastern techniques during the late archery season to try and get close to the damn desert ghosts. IF I had some private land I might try a foodplot otherwise I sure hope I draw a late rifle tag!!! LoL!
As a whole though hunting elk/deer over foodplots in the mountains probably wouldnt work and may be illegal on public ground.

Amen to the fire comment!!!


Jeff

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Mar-16-08, 
07:45 PM (MST)
20. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

Gotta' say it. Food plots and hunting are about the same as herfords. No, I don't think ANY of the guys hunting food plots knows ANYTHING about hunting. That includes the big names who make a ton of money doing it.

Those guys are giving the antis plenty of ammunition, too. Lots of people see that as being akin to shooting Bambi or his mom. There is VERY little skill involved in such.

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polarbear
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Mar-16-08, 
08:10 PM (MST)
21. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

gb22, I completely agree. If I want to hunt "fed animals" I will sit on my porch and shoot one of my steers. There is about as much skill involved in both. Leave to food plot crap to those back east with limited/overcrowded hunting grounds, the elderly and disabled.
Wanted, I agree with your tag line!
Eric


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Mar-17-08, 
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23. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

I hunt food plots out West as often as I can. Like was said before "Burns are food plots!" Chained off areas aren't bad either!!

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Mar-17-08, 
07:12 PM (MST)
24. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

Screw the Anti's!!!!Who gives a crap what they think???What they love is this:"Divide and Conquer"!What gets my goat is hunters against hunters,and the anti's love it!That's exactly what you guys are doing here!Come on-if a guy wants to hunt that way,and it's legal,WHAT'S THE PROBLEM??????Also,can someone please explain to me the difference between "baiting" and happening upon a salt lick or alfalfa field while hunting and hunting there?Or using an elk decoy?Isn't calling a form of baiting?We could go on and on about this.I'm not accusing anyone of condemning anyone else for the way they hunt.But we're getting awfully close to the line here,guys.As a fraternity,we need to stick together.NT.

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Mar-17-08, 
07:20 PM (MST)
25. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

I guess I can't find an argument against that nontypical. I stand corrected and will just do my thing instead of throwing around my opinion to other people that love the same sport I do. We need to remain united or we will be the cause of our own demise.

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Mar-17-08, 
08:43 PM (MST)
26. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

1muleman,

welcome to MM! I agree with what you said. Your off to a good start.

Take a kid hunting. You will enjoy it more than they do!

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Mar-17-08, 
09:01 PM (MST)
27. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

I grow food plots on my place not so much to hunt. We have plenty of feed during a good rainy season, I'ts the drought years that a little extra green in December and February seems to get eaten. I mis-spoke I TRY to grow food plots it's expensive and 50% success, Also try to use as much natural type grasses and forbs. Winterfat and four wing salt bush are great and keeps coming back if you can get it started! The cattle industry and drought through the years has altered the habitat, and terrain in the western states. Every bit helps for the future of our hunting! Our mountain mohagony stands are doing the best and the deer forage on it constantly.

We always try blends. When beets or lab -lab turns brown in the freeze they seem to like it and it grows fair.

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ZR1
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Mar-17-08, 
11:34 PM (MST)
28. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

You guy's make me laugh ! I love how you all act like you are above hunting over a food plots.What do you think some of these guy's have been killing these big bucks and bull's around hay field's or waterholes or salt lick's have been doing for for years?On the other hand I have also seen hunter's go home emty handed waiting for animal's to come in or hunt over field's and water aswell ( I have been one of those hunter's).I didn't say I wanted put up a 10 foot fence on 2 acres of land and herd them into a corner were I will get a 10 yard shot. I am talking about 40 acres fenced by barb wire adjacent to 2 large private land owner's that manage there game for trophy class animals, and trying to find away to get the local game to pass through this property aswell. what would you call hunting over a water hole? Or hunting one of your honey hole's thaat the animal's like to feed at?If we are gonna talk ethic's let's get rid of everything Atv's,high power optics,late season tag's,high caliber rifles that shoot amazing distances,compound bow's,inline muzzleloader's,Late season hunt's early season hunt's, Rut hunt's,Camo clothing,( I have all these) hunting dog's also'I mean I could go on and on.
I MEAN LET'S BE HONEST IF WE ARENT LOOKING FOR ADVANTAGES TO HARVEST ANIMAL's BETTER, EASIER,MORE OFTEN, THEN WHY DOES EVERYONE WANT TO HUNT LIMITED ENTRY HUNT'S OR PRIVATE LAND? OR WHY IS CABELA'S AND SPORTAMAN'S MULTIMILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES?I mean you act the animal cannot escape or don't have a choice in entering this property.Or as if I tied it to a tree.
I have taken animal's ( and my share of trophy's ) every way from spike camp in freezing temp's to road hunting in a comfortable truck on a limited or privite area,everything except high fence,I hunt as hard and am as knowledgable about hunting mule deer and elk as anyone on this site ( o.k maybe not everyone but most)I dont think sitting in a tree outside a field waiting for a trophy whitetail to come walking in november is easy either I have done it and yes I went home emty that after a week of doing it in freezing weather. Hunting is hunting and yes I was just looking for a way to increase my odd's and thought it would be cool se more game that's all, thanks for all your comment's though as usual they are very intertaining to say the least.
Honestly I believe it all boil's down to envy and greed, and as said earlier the Anti-hunter's love when we fight among ourselves it will make us easier to take down that way. Thank's again for all your post's I haven't found anything that will work on this property yet but believe me I'll keep trying.

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BuckSnort
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Mar-19-08, 
00:34 AM (MST)
29. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

ZR1,

Take a deep breath,wash the sand out of your crack and calm down..

You asked a question..If you dont like the answers you were given I dont know what to tell you..

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polarbear
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Mar-19-08, 
06:59 AM (MST)
30. "RE: Mountain Food Plots?"

ZR1
No, not everyone wants to hunt l.e. areas or private land. I refuse to do so. Public land only! Not everyone is looking for a quick, easy or convenient kill, those folks to me arent hunters just opportunists. IMO hunting food plots, roadhunting etc is just plain lazy and not true hunting at all. The antis get more ammo against when they hear more and more folks defending these lazy/slob ways of hunting. It is not that we are divided amongst ourselves as much as it is the ever increasing desire of some hunters to "cheat" heir way into a trophy. Those are the folks who need to worry about image in the eyes of the antis, not those of us who do it the way it should, fair chase, no food plots/feeding, high fences etc. If you are worried about our image take steps to get rid of these tv shows that glorify high fenced, food plot, corn flinger "hunts". That hurts us more than anything. IMHO.
Eric


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