New Pope & Young world record deer

1luckydude · Feb 5, 2008

I know of a deer that was just judged by Pope and Young last week that took the world record in its class, nontypical in velvet, shot with a bow. Anyone out there care to put a $ estimate on such a critter? He is a 9 x 15. He nudged out the previous record holder in that class by almost 10 inches.

BOHNTR · Feb 5, 2008

There is no such thing as a world record "velvet" class animal.

BOHNTR )))---------->

1luckydude · Feb 5, 2008

>There is no such thing as
>a world record "velvet" class
>animal.
>
>BOHNTR )))---------->

Actually, there is a velvet class for Pope and Young, I saw it in the Pope and Young record book last tuesday.

BOHNTR · Feb 5, 2008

Yes there is a velvet category for antlered species....they are not ranked and are published only one time in the record book. However, velvet entries are NOT eligible for world record status. Furthermore, NO entry can be declared a world record until it goes before panel measure.....which is not scheduled until April of 2009.

BOHNTR )))---------->

BuckSnort · Feb 5, 2008

Listen to BOHNTR..he knows what he is talking about..

1luckydude · Feb 5, 2008

>Yes there is a velvet category
>for antlered species....they are not
>ranked and are published only
>one time in the record
>book. However, velvet entries
>are NOT eligible for world
>record status. Furthermore, NO
>entry can be declared a
>world record until it goes
>before panel measure.....which is not
>scheduled until April of 2009.
>
>
>BOHNTR )))---------->

Sorry, I'm new at all this. I guess I misspoke on declaring it a world record. I guess I should have said, it is a tenitive record. The Pope and Young guy that judged it did say it will be reviewed at that panel judging next April. Sorry I didnt say it right, like I said, this is all new to me.

1luckydude

BOHNTR · Feb 6, 2008

Absolutely no reason to apologize, 1luckydude.....I was just trying to explain some of the official P&Y rules, as many folks aren't aware of them.....especially when discussing velvet entries and world record status. If the owner sends it to panel in 2009 (Denver), I'll get to see it.....sounds like a nice buck.

BOHNTR )))---------->

a3dhunter · Feb 6, 2008

>Listen to BOHNTR..he knows what he
>is talking about..
>
>

Yeah, no kidding there! Probably the understatement of the year!

Thanks for the clarification, I guess I'll have to get a big one to make it to the panel in 09'!

Lowlandmulies · Feb 6, 2008

Hey 1luckydude, Wade called me the other night and told me the deer you are referring to scored 255 and some change. It was shot in Idaho in an orchard, I hope this is the buck you are talking about, you didn't post the score so its hard to say. But, if I am right, then your friends buck is not the largest killed with a bow in velvet. Jed lowe's buck from Colorado, taken in 2005 scores 277 and some change and is the largest killed with archery equipment. Not to take anything away from a 255 inch buck, just not the world record (or largest in the velvet class). Congrats to the lucky hunter, if I'm not mistaken it's his first archery buck! Congrats again!

Steve

sageadvice · Feb 6, 2008

Yes, listen to BOHNTR!

Probably 2 or 3 years ago now, the first time i visited this site anyway, BOHNTR was posting some of the toad bucks that he had killed through the years. These were VERY impressive and i enjoyed his comentary that went along with the show.

Lucky hunter, i don't think that for one second. Luck doesn't fit in to the kind of consistancy that "the man" has been able to calmly and selflessly, achieve year after year. I've never had occation the receive any advice from the man but if i ever do, i'm gonna pay attention. Listen to BOHNTR, yep, some darn good advice!

joey

YELUM · Feb 6, 2008

Steve
Actually, a buck killed in Sask by two hunters was even bigger than Jeds. It was taken the same year. I think Jeds may be #3.

Yelum

Roy · Feb 6, 2008

Well actually there was a deer killed in the Selway Bitteroot wilderness that was bigger than both of them comined! But it was killed by bears and when they took it in to get it scored they ate the measurer too, so from now on, bears are no longer considered a viable hunting method for consideration in either P&Y or B&C. They are still however thinking about considering wolves in the near future.

Too bad! That buck was HUGE! It scored like 500 or something like that.

UTROY
Proverbs 21:19 (why I hunt!)

antler_man · Feb 6, 2008

do you have any pics of it?

Addicted · Feb 7, 2008

No pics the bears just cant get a camera to work to save thier ass.

Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave in a well preserved body, but to skid in sideways totally worn out shouting HOLY SH!T WHAT A RIDE!!!

predator · Feb 7, 2008

Roy! Hold on, I'm going to get my popcorn and a beer, this is gonna be good.

timberline_shedfreak24 · Feb 7, 2008

I wanna see some pics of this buck.

Timberline

"Live for somethin' or die for nothin'"

Rammu · Feb 7, 2008

Popcorn.. anyone?

1luckydude · Feb 7, 2008

Ok, gentleman, I hope this posting works. This is the buck we have been talking about. It is the one that lowland mulies heard about.
It scored 255 1/8. Thanks to all who have made comments and helped me to understand the system better.
1luckydude

http://www.monstermuleys.com/photos/PhotosID19/62.html