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DUBCHEATER
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I am thinking of changing my load for my 270 wsm. I am trying to decide between the nosler accubond or the barnes tsx. Has anybody had any good or bad experiences with eaither bullet?
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DallanC
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I wish Nosler would expand their ETip bullet offering. It looks like an improvement over the XBullet concept.
-DallanC
-DallanC
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huntindude
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I prefer the TSX to the accubond. the E tip is inferior to the TSX or MRX in accuracy and runs higher pressures getting less velocity than the TSX in my gun. Nosler has got some catching up to do in the copper bullet line but at least they're trying, the TSX and MRX are both great bullets in every aspect from my experience.
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littlejoe
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No experience with the TSX but I love the Accubond in my 300RUM. It shoots tremendous groups and has done the job on many hunts from antelope to moose.
I get great groups with the 140 accubond in my 270 wsm. I've killed a couple antelop and a couple hogs with mine and none have even taken a step. All pass throughs.
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mtnview
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In my experience TSX bullet performance is far superior. I had Nosler custom loads for my 300 RUM and the Accubonds would not stay together, they absolutely exploded on impact. The TSX bullet epitomize weight retention and expansion.
huntjock
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i've been using accubond 140's (factory load) in my .270 wsm. no experience w/ the tsx (anybody factory load those anyway??)
my son has kinda adopted this (my favorite weapon) as his own, so i went out and bought another .270 wsm
i plan to start reloading soon, so this kind of thread will get my interest more and more
my son has kinda adopted this (my favorite weapon) as his own, so i went out and bought another .270 wsm
i plan to start reloading soon, so this kind of thread will get my interest more and more
I do not have any exsperiance with the TSX out of my 270, but my wives 243 loves the 85 grain TSX. On the other hand I have been playing arround with the Accubonds in my 270 and so far have not been able to get them to shoot worth a darn. Best groups todate have not been able to break 2 inches at 100 yards. I'm saying that they are bad bullets I'm just saying that my rifle does not seem to like them.
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Surprised that so many have had problems getting Accu's to shoot well. I shoot them in 5 diffrent rifles and all of them have shoot very well, most shoot better than any bullet I've ever shot through them.
I'd flip a coin... both will perform just fine.
I'd flip a coin... both will perform just fine.
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I shoot a 180 grain accubond handload out of my 300 win mag. 1/2 inch groups at 100 yds. It is a tack driver. I have put 3 trophy bucks back in their own turd pile with the accubond. Awesome bullet. No experience with the TSX but I did shoot a standard X bullet out of my 7 mag years ago. I took a big buck with that bullet at a close range in the neck. The buck died instantly, but the bullet did not open. Had I hit him thru the ribs I think I'd been doing some tracking.
Mike
Mike
My wife shot a whitetail buck at 200 yards in the neck with a TSX. Any bullet would have killed the deer. The funny thing about the TSX is a petal broke off and followed the spine all the way back exiting the hind end of the deer. I prefer my bullets stay together so the TSX is off my list. Accubonds shoot just as good from her .270 and the bullets have held up well in my limited experience.
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boomhand
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I've used both with my 270wsm on mule deer. The accubond left mighty big exit holes on one shot under 100yd shot to the point I thought the bullet broke up on impact at 3200fps muzzle velocity. Tried 130gr tsx last year and it worked fine but at 200yds so not really a fair comparison. Shoot what your gun likes better. The only thing I don't like with the 130 gr tsx was slight variations in weight and ogive but the accuracy was under 1in.
Try both, then use the one that shoots best out of your gun.
I have used Nosler partions for over 25 years out of my 7mm's. Tried the Accubonds and got better accuracy and velocity(measured w/chronograph) with the Accubonds out of both a 7mm-08 and 7mmRmag than w/partitions. Have used the Accubonds hunting the last several years and have had excellent success. Have taken mule deer, whitetail, antelope, sheep, elk and hogs. Have never recovered a bullet. Hit a bull elk angling towards me on the point of the shoulder and had it exit on opposite side at last rib. Went straight down with only a kick or 2, so get great penatration. I tend to be brand loyal.
from the "Heartland of Wyoming"
I have used Nosler partions for over 25 years out of my 7mm's. Tried the Accubonds and got better accuracy and velocity(measured w/chronograph) with the Accubonds out of both a 7mm-08 and 7mmRmag than w/partitions. Have used the Accubonds hunting the last several years and have had excellent success. Have taken mule deer, whitetail, antelope, sheep, elk and hogs. Have never recovered a bullet. Hit a bull elk angling towards me on the point of the shoulder and had it exit on opposite side at last rib. Went straight down with only a kick or 2, so get great penatration. I tend to be brand loyal.
from the "Heartland of Wyoming"
I use both in my Tikka 270wsm but have more experience with the 130gr. TSX. I've shot Caribou,elk, mulies,whities and hogs. The only time I ever recover a bullet is on the big boars. I have three of them and they are all perfectly expanded, so perfect it's hard to believe how well they work. And they shoot one inch or better usually with reloader 22. Next month I'll be in Africa and Im shooting a 300 wsm with 150 and 165 Accubonds then I hope to have some knowledge about the Accubonds. If I really had to pick I would pick the one that shot the best for confidence reasons.
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just_a_hunter
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I'm not going to say anything bad about Barnes. They are a great company with great customer service.
I'm going to let the pictures do all of my negative talking. A picture is worth a thousand words.
Left to right:
#1) 450 Grain, .458 TSX. 110 yard frontal chest shot on a Giraffe from a .458 Lott. This one looks just like all the ads. Perfect X.
#2) 450 grain, .458 TSX. 80 yard up-the-tail-pipe finisher shot on a Blue Wildebeeste from the same .458 Lott. 71% wieght retention. It also didn't expand nearly as far as #1.
#3) 300 grain .375 TSX. 50 yard quartering too me shot on a Cape Buffalo from a .375 H&H. Hmmm......I never seen one do that in a magazine article, or balistic gelitan....??????
#4) 300 grain .375 TSX. 180ish yard quartering away shot on a Kudu from a .375 H&H. OK....??? What a coincedence, Huh....
#5) 300 grain .375 TSX. 200ish yard broadside shoulder shot on the same Kudu from the same rifle as #4. I guess you can call that opening.
I had quite a few other experiences with them not opening. There were no obstructions between muzzle and animal that the bullet impacted.
I'm lucky enough to have had all of these shots captured on video if any body cares to call me a liar.
My oppinion on them is,- Accuracy and penetration were unbelievably exellent at worst. Expansion and wieght retention is unbelievably unreliable at best.
I strongly suggest as far as a hunting bullet goes, Swift A-Frame's are near flawless(excluding accuracy. Every rifle bore is different).
This is a 160 Grain .284 Swift A-Frame. 130ish yard frontal chest follow up shot on a mature bull elk from a 7mm Rem. Mag. The bullet entered on the starboard side of where his wind pipe entered the chest cavity. It was recovered in his port side hind quarter. The only thing that slowed it down was his leg bone. Weight retention is 94%
This is the picture of the hind quarter the slug was recovered in. The point of the knife is the wound channel.
All factors aside, put the bullet in the bread basket and it doesn't matter what you shoot.
Happy hunting,
Todd
I'm going to let the pictures do all of my negative talking. A picture is worth a thousand words.
Left to right:
#1) 450 Grain, .458 TSX. 110 yard frontal chest shot on a Giraffe from a .458 Lott. This one looks just like all the ads. Perfect X.
#2) 450 grain, .458 TSX. 80 yard up-the-tail-pipe finisher shot on a Blue Wildebeeste from the same .458 Lott. 71% wieght retention. It also didn't expand nearly as far as #1.
#3) 300 grain .375 TSX. 50 yard quartering too me shot on a Cape Buffalo from a .375 H&H. Hmmm......I never seen one do that in a magazine article, or balistic gelitan....??????
#4) 300 grain .375 TSX. 180ish yard quartering away shot on a Kudu from a .375 H&H. OK....??? What a coincedence, Huh....
#5) 300 grain .375 TSX. 200ish yard broadside shoulder shot on the same Kudu from the same rifle as #4. I guess you can call that opening.
I had quite a few other experiences with them not opening. There were no obstructions between muzzle and animal that the bullet impacted.
I'm lucky enough to have had all of these shots captured on video if any body cares to call me a liar.
My oppinion on them is,- Accuracy and penetration were unbelievably exellent at worst. Expansion and wieght retention is unbelievably unreliable at best.
I strongly suggest as far as a hunting bullet goes, Swift A-Frame's are near flawless(excluding accuracy. Every rifle bore is different).
This is a 160 Grain .284 Swift A-Frame. 130ish yard frontal chest follow up shot on a mature bull elk from a 7mm Rem. Mag. The bullet entered on the starboard side of where his wind pipe entered the chest cavity. It was recovered in his port side hind quarter. The only thing that slowed it down was his leg bone. Weight retention is 94%
This is the picture of the hind quarter the slug was recovered in. The point of the knife is the wound channel.
All factors aside, put the bullet in the bread basket and it doesn't matter what you shoot.
Happy hunting,
Todd
Huntindude and Ktg,
What are you shooting. I shoot an old 300 Wby. It for some reason doesn't like the Barnes bullets. On the other hand I shoot 150grn accubonds for everything, it's a death stick. 2 elk, 5 mule deer, and 1 antelope.Closest elk 100 yards, longest elk 496, antelope last year 468. JB
What are you shooting. I shoot an old 300 Wby. It for some reason doesn't like the Barnes bullets. On the other hand I shoot 150grn accubonds for everything, it's a death stick. 2 elk, 5 mule deer, and 1 antelope.Closest elk 100 yards, longest elk 496, antelope last year 468. JB
just_a_hunter
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>Looks like the larger caliber heaver
>bullets act a bit different
>than my medium caliber stuff,
>but I guess it's possible
>that the bullets that I
>haven't recovered did not expand
>and blew through but I'll
>never know.
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> Koyote
I would say there is a chance of it happening. I know of a few people who have recovered 30 cal and .338 cal TSX from (Brown) big bears that didn't expand. But you said it. We'll never know.
They must of had quite a lot of complaining about the TSX. Why fix it if it isn't broken? The new Tipped TSX have a larger hollow point cavern as well as the tip. I think this (TTSX) bullet has a lot of potential.
Good luck,
Todd
>bullets act a bit different
>than my medium caliber stuff,
>but I guess it's possible
>that the bullets that I
>haven't recovered did not expand
>and blew through but I'll
>never know.
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> Koyote
I would say there is a chance of it happening. I know of a few people who have recovered 30 cal and .338 cal TSX from (Brown) big bears that didn't expand. But you said it. We'll never know.
They must of had quite a lot of complaining about the TSX. Why fix it if it isn't broken? The new Tipped TSX have a larger hollow point cavern as well as the tip. I think this (TTSX) bullet has a lot of potential.
Good luck,
Todd
