unit 102 needs your help

[feduptwo]

The game and fish is proposing another 50 tag increase of unit 102 in Wyoming. We are asking that you guys that have hunted 102 or want to hunt 102 or just want the Wyoming game and fish recognize that all deer hunters don't just want to shoot a 22" 4 point to speak up.
There are two ways you can help. On Tuesday April 1st there is a meeting at the Green River game and fish office. We are asking that you attend the meeting and vocally oppose a tag increase and actually ask them to reduce the tags by 50 permits. We figure if we can get twenty or thirty guys and gals at that meeting it would be a slam dunk
If you live out of state and want to help you can foward your comments to [email protected] tell him that you can't attend the meeting but your interested in hunting unit 102 and you want it managed for quality, and not another max opportunity unit. Ask him to cut the amount of tags to 350 Also ask him to foward your comments to the game and fish commissoners as part of the liesence season setting comments.
Lets work together to see that another area that has a long history of producing trophies isn't ruined forever.
Thanks,
Eric

 

[Wes]

I'm fed up too, with greed and the trophy mentality! Not all hunters share your desire to eliminate other hunters for your own desire to hunt what you consider trophy bucks! I've said it before if your not happy "HUNTING" you should quit now and allow others to enjoy what they consider hunting. Not everyone has the trophy mentality. Some are happy just being able to hunt. Well, you'll say that there are plenty of places where the lowly two point shooter can hunt and that you only want to have a limited area where you may or may not be able to draw a tag so you can hunt what you consider "trophy" animals. The problem is there are others who would love to eliminate you also so they can hunt what they consider a "trophy". Lets just keep eliminating tags till there are so few left that all the animals will be the Kings deer and only the Kings men can hunt them.
Wes

 

[NMPaul]

Where do i sign up to be a Kings man???

There should be units managed for quality and quantity. No matter what is done someone is going to complain.

I would agree that 102 should be managed for trophy potential as there are plenty of units managed for quantity and mule deer are not exactly overpopulating the west.

 

[buckmster28]

Sign me up to be a kings man as well. I couldnt agree more that we need areas managed for trophy quality animals. I dont look down on someone if there idea of a trophy and mine are different. And I do beleive everyone has a right to hunt, but there are lots of public ground over the counter tags to be had, I know because I hunt them every year.

 

[Califelkslayer]

I guess this is 3 in a row!! I applied for 102 with max points but don't expect to draw. WHEN I do draw, I want it to be a quality unit. Oh Yea, not one of the king's men.

 

[ICMDEER]

I don't even hunt 102, but I'm a WYO resident and ask EVERY year for G&F to manage more areas for quality. It still amazes me that EVERY SINGLE antelope license in the state is in a limited quota area, but mule deer hunting is like a free-for-all. Let's at least put mule deer on a level with pronghorns. And yes, there are leftover licenses in good areas for antelope every year. Everybody, residents and nonresidents can hunt antelope in Wyoming if they want. Deer could be the same with quality hunts in lots of areas if G&F would just provide a little more management.

I'm not convinced they will listen, but I'll let them know. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Triple_BB]

LAST EDITED ON Mar-30-08 AT 01:37PM (MST)[p]There's a couple of problems here. The G & F takes the position that Wes promotes and that is, everyone should have a chance to hunt even though their are already of plenty of general season area's that anyone can hunt. The G & F also insists on maximizing profits. I'm of the opinion we do need some ares's managed for quality. That brings up the second problem Most people bee-atch about what the G & F does or doesn't do and no one does anything beyond bee-atching. If you'd take the time to write the G & F or attend the meetings, we could bring about some meaningful change. I've been writing letters and calling the G & F regularly for the past 2 years about them reducing the daily duck harvest limit from 6 to 5 when the Feds are allowing a liberal harvest package. Not surprisingly, I usually get the same response: no one else is complaining. Meaning that silence is interpreted as support for whatever they're pushing. If you're speaking up to the idiots at the G & F, kudos to you...

 

[ktg]

LAST EDITED ON Mar-30-08 AT 02:46PM (MST)[p]Tried to send an email to the address you listed & it came back as
'no such address'. I hunted elk in that unit last year spending about 20 days there from mid august to early oct. The number and size of deer we saw was pathetic. More tags? That's even more pathetic.

 

[NeverStopHuntin]

Whats the point of being able to hunt if there are no bucks left to hunt. These general units have been over hunted for years now and there isn't too much left. Region G and H are in pretty poor shape compared to a few years ago. I'm sick of greedy hunters thinking they need to kill a buck every single year. Our deer herds can't support people like wes who think that its not a hunt until something dies. We need some areas with limited tags not only so there are a few good bucks left but also to ensure a few areas have healty deer herds. I hear a lot of people bad mouth trophy hunters but in reality trophy hunters kill a lot less deer then the greedy hunters that blast the first thing with horns that they see. I don't know a trophy hunter that hasn't eaten tag soup and we are happy to do it because we know that you don't get a good buck shooting little ones. I have gone home empty handed many times but if had i shot the first little buck i seen and every one else had done the same what would our deer herds look like?

 

[feduptwo]

LAST EDITED ON Mar-30-08 AT 06:34PM (MST)[p]Wes,

In Southwest Wyoming we have twelve Deer hunt areas. Of these twelve hunt areas only 2 units are limited quota. The rest are general season with minimal restrictions and fairly liberal seasons. I didn't mean to sound elitist but we have tons of hunter opportunity in Southwest Wyoming. In fact Wyoming is the best state in the union for general season hunter opportunity.
Of the two limited quota areas one (unit 101) is in really bad shape due to extended drought, winter, elk, tons of coyotes, and new oil & gas projects. This unit should probably be closed. Not for quality issues just for the fact that currently there are super low deer numbers, caused by many problems that are mostly out of the G&F hands. They have cut tags to 75 antlered deer which probaly won't add to the demise of this unit.
This leaves one out of twelve units that has in the past been managed more for trophy quality than hunter opportunity. I don't think those of us who enjoy to pursue mature deer are asking to much to have one unit that is managed for older age class deer?
Many of the King's men have spent hours building and maintaining guzzlers, and working to improve habitat so everyone can enjoy. If you want to shoot a smaller deer when you draw the tag we the King's men have no problem with that. If you don't want to wait to draw come hunt one of the ten other general season areas in Southwest Wyoming. With any of these units all you need is a little effort, hard work, and a little luck you can harvest a respectable deer that your interested in harvesting.

 

[feduptwo]

Remember all of you that agree with me take ten minutes to send comments to Steve Dececco at the Wyoming game and fish

 

[feduptwo]

[email protected] is the correct address I spelled his name wrong, sorry please try again
Eric

 

[RACKMASTER]

resi tags? or non resi tags? Thank Garth!!! Until the state make other areas as good as 102 (can be) with public access or a very easy place to shoot a 170/180 class buck from the road ITS NOT GOING TO HELP!
last year they upped resi tags and not non resi's.. I say up it and I'll just keep stashing away my points until they slash resi tags in half!
and then things will get better 50 tags will not make a differance with such a high numbers of locals out and about in the area every weekend!
things are tuff all over!!
RM

 

[feduptwo]

400 total tags, approx 55 of those are non-resident as it stands now. Those of us that have spent some time out there have noticed a sharp drop in quality since they raised the tags by 50 three years ago. Were asking them to go down 50 and return the total numbers of tags to 350. They'll never slash resident tags by half. There is a ton of areas as good or better than 102 right now. It really has seen better years
Eric,

 

[huntsonora]

>I'm fed up too, with greed
>and the trophy mentality! Not
>all hunters share your desire
>to eliminate other hunters for
>your own desire to hunt
>what you consider trophy bucks!
>I've said it before if
>your not happy "HUNTING" you
>should quit now and allow
>others to enjoy what they
>consider hunting. Not everyone has
>the trophy mentality. Some are
>happy just being able to
>hunt. Well, you'll say
>that there are plenty of
>places where the lowly two
>point shooter can hunt and
>that you only want to
>have a limited area where
>you may or may not
>be able to draw a
>tag so you can hunt
>what you consider "trophy" animals.
>The problem is there are
>others who would love to
>eliminate you also so they
>can hunt what they consider
>a "trophy". Lets just keep
>eliminating tags till there are
>so few left that all
>the animals will be the
>Kings deer and only the
>Kings men can hunt them.
>
>Wes

WTF?

 

[nontypical]

Rackmaster-When tag #'s are raised or lowered in L.E. units,it affects res and non-res alike.Mandated by law,it is done on a percentage basis.If you are talking about region G,you are correct.Those non-res tags were lowered.As a resident,it wouldn't bother me to see a cap on resident tags there,also.However,we are losing track of what this post is about.Those of you who are interested in seeing a quality area maintained,we urge you to contact the above email address.If we don't get any reponse locally from G&F,we are going to petition the commissioners themselves.Also,unit 102 is BELOW objective levels set by G&F.WTF??

 

[nontypical]

NeverStopHuntin-You are right on the money,dude.

 

[Califelkslayer]

And Wes can hunt "K" every year. Lots of deer, a few good bucks and a couple of great ones each year. Perfect hunt for those that just want to hunt.

 

[feduptwo]

Thanks for those of you who have sent in comments. Just a reminder get those comments in and know you helped save the only good limited quota area in Southwest Wyoming. Just a reminder the meeting is at 7:00pm tonight at the G&F office
Thanks
Eric