Drew Nevada, but cant go

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bucketmouth

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Just got a hit on my credit card from Nevada. Had 0 points and about a 2% chance of drawing. But I have a trip planned to Utah already payed for. I cant do both. Is there any chance to get my money back or am I screwed?

Thanks
 
you're screwed.....and so is the guy that would have drawn the tag if you hadn't.

JB
 
I agree with d13r.

What could possibly be more important in Utah than a quality Nevada deer hunt? Should have used the preference point option.
 
In Utah, I have access to 36,000 acres of private land. There is only 20 other hunters on the land.
 
This is the second time my dad and I have drawn with no points. The firest was area 6, this time its either 6 or 111
 
I guess I over think this drawing thing.
I should just put in for all the tags I can
then hope for the best.Not having any consideration
for the other hunters out there who might be able
to use the tag and then get on here and tell everybody
about it.When I put in for my hunts I look at the dates
and make sure if I happen to get lucky and draw the tags
I will be able to hunt them all.Not take away the chance
from someone else and letting the tag go to waste.
I think what I really want to say is why dont
you try to be a little more Considerate to your fellow
hunters.And not waste tags...
 
I know that this issue has been hammered out several times before, but it is so aggravating to see yet another inconsiderate, thoughtless applicant draw a tag that won't be used. With the options available to hunters in the various draws, there is no excuse for drawing competing tags.

Buy the bonus point next time, Einstein. I'm sure there are a bunch of non-residents that would be doing backflips to see that hit on their credit card, not pissing and moaning about getting their money back or, even worse, resigning themselves to "have to hunt a few days in Nevada." Unbelievable.
 
Didn't mean to get you all upset. The Utah hunt just became available last month because two others cancelled. My wife lost her job recently so money is tight. I will hunt Nevada also. I guess I wasn't thinking when I posted that message. Sorry fellas.
 
Maybe you guys that are bad mouthing bucketmouth ought to talk to the States and get them to get together and work out a draw system that puts results out in a way that we do not have this problem. Utah puts off results for three month and it just so happens that they post result the end of April. Colorado New Mexico and Nevada application have to be in a week or two earlier. Arizona deer is due in today the 10th. Colorado, New Mexico and Neveda will all post in the next ten days. You can't assume that you are going to draw and not put in for the other states. Most of the time you don't have a problem with too many tags. Sometimes you do, what a problem to have.
 
bucketmouth - it is YOUR tag do with it what you'd like . Life happens not everything always falls in line like you hope it would .

Good to see nothing has changed here . The guy made a mistake and asked a simple question .

I would suggest you take a picture of yourself lighting the tag on fire and then posting it up here . That would draw some nice responses .
 
BucketMouth.

I heard a great one a while back. I was complaining about something at work.

The guy said:

"If you're looking for sympathy around here, you can find it in the dictionary - right there between s#*t and syhpilis."

Good to see you'll give 'er a go in NV.
 
What a bunch of whiners. The guy drew a tag, paid for it, cant use it. SO WHAT!!!!

One less guy in the field. Most states try to sell more tags than they should anyhow.

Like the previous guy said. Its his frikkin tag to do with what he wants.

Sorry you cant go on your hunt. You dont owe anyone an explanation.
 
It could happen to anybody that plays the "draw system".Only so much money & time to hunt so make the best of it.Other guys are asking about turning back Utah tags & they get their points back.This dilema you have could happen to most of us someday so I hope you can work it out for the best!
Good Luck,David
 
Congrats on the tag. Don't worry about the sore heads complaining about YOUR tag. Lots of us play the lottery game knowing there's a small chance a person may draw overlapping hunts. It happened to you. No big deal. Best of luck to you on your Utah hunt!
 
Hey Bucketmouth,

It's a shame that you come on here to ask for a little advice and get slammed be some jealous guys who didn't draw a tag.

First, congrats on beating the odds and drawing. Lucky S.O.B.

Second, consider a couple of days on either hunt. The seasons usually run long enough for that. If it's a good enough tag, it damn near warrants that! Sounds like it does.

Third, Good luck on you hunts.

To all of you guys feeling like 'your' tag was taken by a greedy hunter. Chew on this....

I (like many others) apply for over 20 tags per year, just hoping to draw (1) tag. Seeing as I put in for premium tags. The odds, usually in that 1% range,are very much against me. If I was to draw more than one tag, it would be a miracle, chances are I would be up a creek, trying to pick out which hunt to go on, should they run at the same time.

I can bet most of you are in the same boat. We love to hunt so much and the odds are so low that it's worth the risk of drawing more than one tag! Just to try and get that ONE special tag.

And do you really feel like he drew your tag!!!

Hell, he drew it! He can do with it as he wants!
 
couple years ago I drew 7 tags. One was my OIL Moose in Utah. Nevada came out and I did not draw. I was relieved. A week later NDOW calls and says someone turned their tag back in losing their moneys and points and wanted to know if I wanted my first choice tag? Just happened it was the same week of my moose so I passed. Wish i could have made that hunt. I pretty much quit my job and hunted nearly 3 months solid. Got them all though. Good times.

You never know what you will draw, and what might come up. I will always us a tag, even if I can only make it one day. You never know what might happen in that one day.

The year I drew 7 I had a WY G tag. It opened the day before my moose. I drove up, packed in, slept in a deer bed. Woke up hiked further, killed a decent 5x5 with matching inlines, boned him out and packed out. Drove home and scouted moose that night, hunted the next. You do what you have to do.

Now head to NV and have a good time. You had no points so it cost you the $. Then hunt UT and have a good time. Isn't that what this is all about. And every so often you kill a good one.

Jason "The Big Ol' Muley"
 
I talked to my dad, we plan on hunting Nevada for 4-5 days, then Utah. I'm in Sacramento so Nevada is on the way. He is paying for my Utah hunt which is a big help. With the wife not having a job, money is tight, and I still have half of my taxidermy bill from last years Colorado deer last year.
 
" ......and I still have half of my taxidermy bill from last years Colorado deer......."

If you're gonna have debt, that is good debt.

Best of luck on your hunts.


"Hunt when you can - You're gonna' run out of health before you run out of money!"
 
Sheepshooter- That was hilarious....burn the tag and post the picture! LMAO!! You think guys are pissed now?

I put in for tags where the hunts are at the same time figuring the odds are not good to draw both tags. Those that say you don't are probably not telling the truth. When I put in for two tags that have conflicting dates, I make sure that I will be able to hunt both tags. If there is no way possible, then I don't put in. Bucketmouth got way too much crap for this. He is young and probably did not expect the reaction he got. Instead of reaming the guy, offer some "practical" criticism...don't out-right disrespect the guy. You never know, he may be the guy that is willing to offer you some good info on an area you'd like to hunt in the future.

Steve
 
Thanks, Wiszard.
I shouldn't have even posted this. After thinking about it, you have to realize it usually takes years to draw a decent tag anywhere. Living in California it takes 5-7 years for the X3B tag where my family grew up hunting. That place pretty much sucks now. Last time I drew it was 2006, and we drew Nevada Area 6 that year as well.
Any way, I'm 32 and want to get as many good hunts in as I can. By the way, I'm selling a mint 2006 Trykon if anybody is looking for a bow. I've never hunted with it and it's all set up. 26-1/2" draw length, 60-70lbs.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-10-08 AT 05:27PM (MST)[p]Do what you need to do. Three years ago my sons and I drew 7 tags. Three X zone tags, two antelope tags,one grizzly island spike tag,and one late season nevada deer tag. I never gave up on one hunt and made each hunt a little shorter than most. Enjoy while you can. The only negative was my boss wasnt very happy but he got over it.And we are going back to Nevada again this year with the old smoke pole!
 
Bucketmouth- you should go to the classified ads on MM and put that bow for sale there. You may get some response.

Steve
 
Bucket,
I first off would tell everyone that complained about you drawing two tags "tough sh*^t!" Thats my opinion. I put in for 5 elk hunts that are all at the same time. Odds were horrible on all 5 hunts. But I got lucky and drew one. Do you think I was worried I might draw and take away some other hunters "tag"? Hell no!! It takes 10-15 years to draw a quality tag and I am supposed to be worried about someones feelings? Ya gotta be kidding me. I say congrats on the tag, kill a smoker.
 
I'm with Coyote on this one...why don't you guys ##### a little more...maybe it will make you guys feel better about not drawing... you guys act like its the last time you'll ever get the chance to hunt ever...quit bitching and just hope you draw next year...don't bash someone for something he can't control...
 
where there is a will there is a way. two good tags is a good problem to have.you can pull it off hunt now while you can who knows what the future holds for any of us!
 
like WYOMING SAY'S....CAUTION THERE AN INHERANT RISK OF APPLYING IN MULTI STATE HUNT DRAWS!!
I guess you could be in two places at once!!!!!!!!!!!
rm
 
I apply for almost every western state. I do not worry too much about overlapping hunts, it could happen, but never has. Congrats on the draws hope you enjoy both tags. Bottom line is I dont beleive most guys are looking at season dates and only applying if all hunt dates dont overlap, if I drew everything I applied for I would probably be screwed, granted I would do what I could to hunt them all, but thats a bridge I will worry about if I every get lucky enough to have to cross.
 
buckmster28, I have to agree with you. I put in for many tags in nearly every western state. This year, I drew a great Utah archery elk tag, and have been sweating the drawings in other states ever since. After finding out that I got drawn, I've only applied for bonus points in the remaining states, but I still have Nevada and New Mexico floating around out there, waiting to see if I'm lucky and not drawn, or lucky and drawn and then figuring out what the heck I'm going to do with multiple great tags.

This year, I'm hoping for no more tags, unless they're sheep tags.
 
>In Utah, I have access to
>36,000 acres of private land.
>There is only 20 other
>hunters on the land.


20 hunters is a pretty big number for 36k acres........in utah right?.....not Kentucky?.....right?

JB
 
I never thought a guy could actually get reamed for drawing a tag. Only here on MM!!! Congrats to the hunter. To many tags is better than not enough I always say. I just found out that I drew a Nevada archery deer tag and I already have Alaska caribou, Utah archery deer elk, I should draw wyoming deer (finally)and antelope, Kansas whitetail and turkey, and I am still going to buy an over the counter Idaho tags. Many of these hunt dates overlap but who cares! I will hunt each of the tags I get with as much time as possible and if I happen to draw another state I don't expect I say the more the merrier. Any serious hunter with the resources to put in for multiple states is going to do it and every year some of those hunts and draw dates will be conflicting. SO what does a guy do? Sit there crossing his fingers on one tag in one state because he doesn't want to offend other hunters. You guys actually accuse him of "taking" your tags. To me you guys sounds like the ugly chick in college who is mad at her hot roomates because they are taking up "ALL" the guys. Give me a break!
Good luck to all on the draws and the hunts that follow!!!
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-11-08 AT 00:15AM (MST)[p]I never had a problem taking the ugly ones!!! When you go fishing, if you can't catch the big ones, you'll be happy with the small ones. HaHa

Steve
 
Man would I be in trouble if I drew all the tags I put in for each year, 7 States comes out to about 14 tags from Sept to Nov. Where do you want the papers signed honey, The big "D" would be in play.
 
I think its just funny reading those first 5-6 comments. Can you imagine putting in for hunts if you never wanted to apply for hunts that overlapped. "Lets see, my Utah elk tag has a .001 percent chance of drawing. So I will put in for points in all other western states for archery elk. Man would I hate to draw 2 tags!!" Ha. Could be even worse for sheep," I have a 1 in 3500 chance of drawing my NM sheep tag, so I better not put in for sheep anywhere else.!! I might draw." All jokes aside, I wish every year I could have the problem of too many tags. That would be a wonderful problem to have. It would be alot better than chasing elk/deer on the Utah general thats for sure!
 
He wanted to know if he was screwed. Yes he is, Nevada makes no refunds or exchanges. He made plans to hunt Utah over the top of the Nevada tag. No refunds. My question was; Is there any hunt in Utah, besides 36k acres on the Henry Mountains, better than a Nevada tag?

He can file his tag away, wallpaper with it, wipe his butt, roll a joint with it, roll it up and snort crack through it, whatever he wants. It is his with no refunds. He did not give a timeline in his question, I merely pointed out Nevada has a bonus point option?

Ask your Sugar Daddy for a refund?;-)
 
The point is very simple. Unless you have the time and resources to hunt all of you overlapping tags, don't apply for multiple, overlapping hunts. That is why nearly every Western state gives you the option of buying a bonus/preference point. If you have the ability to hunt 10 overlapping tags, then fire away.

If you draw 4 overapping tags, but can only use 1, you have removed 3 tags from an extremely limited resource pool and have eliminated the opportunity for 3 of your fellow hunters to hunt. This is not the old days, when you could walk into Zinnicks and buy all of your tags over the counter and go hunting every year.

And thanks, guys, I understand it is his tag, he drew it. That is not the problem. The problem occurred before he drew the tag, when he decided to apply for competing hunts without the ability to actually use both tags. The same could be said for the animal rights groups that throw money at the draws -- which they do -- they own the tags, can do whatever they want with them. Is everybody okay with that?

The comments above are representative of the lack of consideration that you see every day and, more and more, in the field. Everybody has the "me first" attitude.
 
This is my first time posting bought I thought I'd offer some advice for the original poster. NV does have a tag return policy that does not give you a refund but does put the tag back into circulation. The tag, if returned, is given to the next person that didn't draw (not sure of the exact process). This will also allow you to keep your point under certain circumstances, unfortunately though the money is gone. I'm not sure of the process but a. a friend of mine shockingly received a return tag once and b. my father returned a tag because he had an illness and could not go. Hope this helps and look forward to participating more in the future.
 
Hogliver,
I understand your point, but I hunt archery elk, all those hunts are at the same time. I am not going to put in for just one hunt and points for all the rest just because I might draw. Odds are like 1-3 percent that I will draw. Using that strat you would basically have to wait till you draw the one tag, and then use the bonus points. Thats not a strat I want to use. You can if you want.
 
I've worked the situation out. In Utah I have from Oct 10 to Nov 15. So we will hunt Nevada first , hopefully tag out in a few days, then head to Utah.
 
I'm going to live to be 375 years old, so I only apply for one LE tag a year.


HK


GO HARD KORE OR DON'T GO AT ALL
 
I agree. I would never draw a tag. All the deer hunts I apply for are during November, and elk hunts in September. So I guess I will choose just one state and hunt and then just focus on that till I draw. But I am immortal so its cool.
 
Sounds to me like the "me first" and "selfish" attitude is coming from the few who are whining about someone putting in for "overlapping tags". ARE YOU SERIOUS? Do you guys really think it is inconsiderate to apply for two lousy tags that have hunt dates that conflict? THEN I'M ONE HELLUVA INCONSIDERATE SOB, 'CAUSE I DO IT EVERY YEAR, and I will continue to do it every year! I cant believe the some of the sanctimonious BS that is spewed on this site sometimes.
UNBELIEVABLE!
It sounds like he figured out a way to do both hunts; but SO WHAT if he couldnt! He stated that money is tight for his family! Maybe some of us dont have unlimited income! What would you idiots think if someone lost their job, and couldnt afford to go hunting this year?
Shoulda "planned" better?
Would he "waste" "YOUR" tag too?
I'll bet that 99% of the ppl on here (including some of the whiners)do the exact same thing. Not a dang thing wrong with it either.
Hell, I wish that every SOB that draws a tag in "MY" unit decides not to go hunting. In this instance that money would still go into the system, and as was said earlier, one less hunter in the field, and one more buck or bull roaming the hills.
And you guys called HIM Einstein....
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By the way,
I live in UT.
There are a lot of UTARDS that live here.
I have also seen quite a few WYOMORONS, NEVADUHNS, COLORADORKS, ID-IOTS and AIRHEADZONANS in my travels.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-15-08 AT 01:19AM (MST)[p]Bucket, you should be in Utah the last week of your hunt anyways. Til November 15th, by gawd?? Stupid rutting bucks. You don't have no problem except $5.00 diesel.

My season:

August 22-Sept 5. Nv antelope. (Alone)

Sept 3-Sept 7. Waterfowl in Alberta. (with girlfriend)

Sept 14- Sept 28. Colorado Archery elk. (with dad)

Sept 15- Oct 15. Wyoming antelope. (Haven't drawn yet 90+%)

Oct 4- Oct 8. NM elk (haven't drawn 40% chance)

I did avoid Sept elk hunts cause I was burning 13 NR points in Colorado. It didn't stop me from applying for archery elk in NV cause their season is early, as is Kali's. I missed on Utah elk/moose, Wy elk, NV sheep and deer, Colorado deer, Ore sheep. I PP'd Ore except for sheep cause of Colorado. I skipped ID cause of the others. Like said above, if results came out earlier, it would be easier but it is what it is.

Bucket, post pics of that huge ole buck you kill in Utah.

Oh Yea, this will probably be the year I get that Wy deer tag, Oct 1- Oct 15. Could possibly squeeze it in with the Wy antelope hunt. Wy antelope is with girlfriend and her son so thats not going away.

Third huntin season with this one, I'll see how she handles it.
 
Ya Bucketmouth, you have to be real careful what you post here. It probably would have been ok on other hunting sites but I've noticed here on MM, you have a lot of whining b!itches just itching to jump all over someone about anything. For some reason this site has turned into an a$$hole magnet.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do with your tags. Hopefully we'll get to see some pics when your done.
 
Bucketmouth
Funny my post said "Drew Nevada and can go" and although helpfull only three people replied I dont think the rewst could think of anything negative to say .
ZR1
 
Alright i read every post and got a kick out of the turn around. Honestly i cant see how someone is gettin upset about you drawing two tags, even if ya cant hunt. i mean come on alot of people enter a ton of states for a ton of tags, so it happens. Big deal, the chances he took "your" tag are a hell of alot lower than the chances he had of drawing two tags that over lapped. i only enter one state but thats cuz im a broke azz guy and cant afford it or to take the time off. Hell my one hunt and fishin trip is hard as it is let alone scouting at 4.09 a gallon.

Honestly arguing saying he was selfish and inconsiderate because he applied for two over lapping hunts is about as dumb as saying someone who got a tag and only hunted the weekend of a week or more long hunt is selfish cuz you coulda hunted the whole thing therefore you deserve the tag more.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." -- Abraham Lincoln
 
Bucketmouth,

What a great "problem" to have.. I think most people here would like to have your situation if they could. Congrats on drawing the Nevada tag and best of luck to you on both hunts. Shoot a hog.. Things always have a way of working out..

jim
 

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