Whats big other places is average there. Hunt of a lifetime. I was there in Feb. Some had dropped and some hadnt. In one spot I saw several 190 deer, one that was well over 200 typical, found one side of a 220 nontypical and match set off 195 6x7. And I dont even know the mountain well. Id say its worth the wait, just sucks that its a 12 year wait. I thought it was all a dream!