HOW WIDE DO YOU THINK HE IS?
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Tip to tip of the ears is usually around 22 inches on a mature buck. If you give him 3 inches outside his ears on each side that would put him at 28 inches wide. I think 28 +/- an inch is probably a good guess.
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SpinninYote
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LAST EDITED ON Sep-22-08 AT 02:34PM (MST)[p]I would guess this deer to be about 26 or 27 inches wide. Tip to tip of the ears on a MATURE BUCK usually measures about 22 inches. Honestly, this is not a fully mature buck. He is probably 3 maybe 4 years old. Just my opinion. Also, the angle he is holding his head at gives the illusion of him being a lot wider because it changes messes with your depth perception. This makes it look like his right front fork sticks out about 3 inches wider that his right back fork, and his back left sticking out farther than his front left. Which is clearly not how his antlers are formed based on the picture showing him directly from the back. Again just my opinion and to each his own.
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+1 SpinninYote. This pic messes big time with your depth perception. Just a few inches in or out makes a world of difference.
I am still not convinced. Get us a better pic or an actual measurement. If he's 30 then I'll eat crow. No big deal, I misjudged a bad field photo. Whoop dee doo!
If you want this buck to be 30" so badly then believe it with all your heart and it might just come true!
UTROY
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I am still not convinced. Get us a better pic or an actual measurement. If he's 30 then I'll eat crow. No big deal, I misjudged a bad field photo. Whoop dee doo!
If you want this buck to be 30" so badly then believe it with all your heart and it might just come true!
UTROY
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walleye1121
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I guess people are just afraid to say that they thinks a buck is 30".
This buck clearly is. He is an inch or two better in my opinion.
You are kidding yourself to put him at 26.
Here are some comparisons.
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This buck clearly is. He is an inch or two better in my opinion.
You are kidding yourself to put him at 26.
Here are some comparisons.
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26"
? The angle changes things ?
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LAST EDITED ON Sep-22-08 AT 05:03PM (MST)[p]So Walleye - are all these pics of 26" bucks? If so, you really only muddled the water. This is what you get when you have decent pics of a buck, to me, it just makes the other buck look even more less than 30, the better the quality of the photo, the clearer it becomes.
But I'd be happy as hell to be wrong! Especially for Hunter231 and GemstateJake.
I just know that the "out past its ears" idea is patently false in most cases and that pics can be very very deceptive.
UTROY
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But I'd be happy as hell to be wrong! Especially for Hunter231 and GemstateJake.
I just know that the "out past its ears" idea is patently false in most cases and that pics can be very very deceptive.
UTROY
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Roy.........I agree that just past the ears means little........ but that deer is way past his ears........unless he's got a tiny head and body, I defineately feel his spread will meet or excede 30"..........In my opinion thats a hell of a buck regardless of score. WAY,WAY better than most guys will kill this season..........I hope Hunter231 gets him.
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Well that's what I've been saying all along. It think it is a great buck and I probably wouldn't pass him up. I do think he is a young buck and comparing him to that 2 pt beside him I just can come up with 30, but like I said pics are deceiving and I could very well be wrong.
UTROY
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UTROY
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walleye1121
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Roy,
What I am showing is two pics of bucks that are about 26" the other pics are of deer bigger than 26" but open for debate. Angles in photos can change perspective and need to be taken into consideration. But photos are not deceiving. They actually give you all the time you want to size a deer up accurately. Using the two point for scale is a mistake.
I don't care how wide this buck is either. I am just suprised how many people are selling him short.
What I am showing is two pics of bucks that are about 26" the other pics are of deer bigger than 26" but open for debate. Angles in photos can change perspective and need to be taken into consideration. But photos are not deceiving. They actually give you all the time you want to size a deer up accurately. Using the two point for scale is a mistake.
I don't care how wide this buck is either. I am just suprised how many people are selling him short.
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Thats a perfect example of a mid 160s buck with a 27" spread.......................oh and drop tines are vastly overrated........espeically when there are two of them...........look, his brow tines are'nt even symetrical......
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Elkcrzy1
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Depending on how the ears are laying it is the very best way to judge width that I know of other than putting a tape on them. The way that bucks ears were pinched behind his head was difficult to judge so hunter231 sent the other pic that is perfect for judging because his ears are where they need to be to tell for sure. He is without a doubt 29" for sure and my guess is 30-31" outside spread. BCBOY you ready for a wager ?
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sonofthesouth
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"Thats a perfect example of a mid 160s buck with a 27" spread.......................oh and drop tines are vastly overrated........espeically when there are two of them...........look, his brow tines are'nt even symetrical......"
I could not agree more...why my dad arrowed him is a mystery to me. lol
I guess I should give tell you his spread; 39 so not tooo shabby, it kinda makes the drops easier to handle.
Son
I could not agree more...why my dad arrowed him is a mystery to me. lol
I guess I should give tell you his spread; 39 so not tooo shabby, it kinda makes the drops easier to handle.
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elkslayer54
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Guess how wide this one is!
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archerymuleyslayer
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ATLEAST YOU WIPED THE MILK OFF ITS LIPS PRIOR TO TAKING THE PHOTO'S...LOL, NICE BUCK AND ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE WHAT IS IT ABOUT WIDTH ANYWAYS? ARE YOU ALL TRYING TO COMPENSATE FOR SOMETHING THAT IS LACKING..;-)
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ATLEAST YOU WIPED THE MILK OFF ITS LIPS PRIOR TO TAKING THE PHOTO'S...LOL, NICE BUCK AND ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE WHAT IS IT ABOUT WIDTH ANYWAYS? ARE YOU ALL TRYING TO COMPENSATE FOR SOMETHING THAT IS LACKING..;-)
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Tree's buck has to be near 35". Just the spread of his back forks is probably 23".
That looks like Mexico.
That looks like Mexico.
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Elkcrzy1
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26" Shi##y tasting rat according to the boy.
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Tree,
I obviously saw these bucks live and my perception can be wrong as easily as anyones maybe more I suppose. I am certain these bucks are better than 24". We are really opening a can of worms here because nothing can be substantiated.
I am only pushing my own opinion and do not mean to argue.
I am always learning from what I see and making mistakes creates better learning.
At least we all got to see some nice bucks in this little exercise.
I obviously saw these bucks live and my perception can be wrong as easily as anyones maybe more I suppose. I am certain these bucks are better than 24". We are really opening a can of worms here because nothing can be substantiated.
I am only pushing my own opinion and do not mean to argue.
I am always learning from what I see and making mistakes creates better learning.
At least we all got to see some nice bucks in this little exercise.
LAST EDITED ON Sep-23-08 AT 01:56PM (MST)[p]>Tree,
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>I obviously saw these bucks live
>and my perception can be
>wrong as easily as anyones
>maybe more I suppose. I
>am certain these bucks are
>better than 24". We are
>really opening a can of
>worms here because nothing can
>be substantiated.
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>I am only pushing my own
>opinion and do not mean
>to argue.
>
>I am always learning from what
>I see and making mistakes
>creates better learning.
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>At least we all got to
>see some nice bucks in
>this little exercise.
I agree. That was my perception, nothing more.
FYI, The buck I posted was 32", I figured he'd get over-guessed. (Like the first one! LOL)
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>I obviously saw these bucks live
>and my perception can be
>wrong as easily as anyones
>maybe more I suppose. I
>am certain these bucks are
>better than 24". We are
>really opening a can of
>worms here because nothing can
>be substantiated.
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>I am only pushing my own
>opinion and do not mean
>to argue.
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>I am always learning from what
>I see and making mistakes
>creates better learning.
>
>At least we all got to
>see some nice bucks in
>this little exercise.
I agree. That was my perception, nothing more.
FYI, The buck I posted was 32", I figured he'd get over-guessed. (Like the first one! LOL)
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Elkcrzy1
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I agree with what you guys are saying I just have a problem with people slamming a guys buck saying BS like I pass them up like that, He's 26 wide not 30, big ones taste like sh&t, and it was time somebody called bs on the little boy from bc. Now i want to know if he's going to bet or back out? Im willing to have all of you for witnesses to our bet.
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TFinalshot
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I'll bet he's close to 30 if youre talking widest outside - though I dont see any stickers (shots are too far away) so it's impossible to even make a good guess, if there's stickers on each side, or one or the other we could be off by as much as 3-6 inches. . . . If youre interested in score, the inside main beam should be your measure, he's not a 30" buck if that's what youre after. . .
At the end of the day, if he's huntable, shoot him and put a tape on this antlers, it's the only real way to tell. . .
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At the end of the day, if he's huntable, shoot him and put a tape on this antlers, it's the only real way to tell. . .
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"Roadless areas, in general, represent some of the best fish and wildlife habitat on public lands. The bad news is that there is nothing positive about a road where fish and wildlife habitat are concerned -- absolutely nothing." (B&C Professor, Jack Ward Thomas, Fair Chase, Fall 2005, p.10).
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>I agree with what you guys
>are saying I just have
>a problem with people slamming
>a guys buck saying BS
>like I pass them up
>like that, He's 26 wide
>not 30, big ones taste
>like sh&t, and it was
>time somebody called bs on
>the little boy from bc.
>Now i want to know
>if he's going to bet
>or back out? Im willing
>to have all of you
>for witnesses to our bet.
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Now easy guy.....I don't think he was slamming anyone unless I read it wrong. He simply gave his opinion. I believe the title of this post is "How wide do you think he is?" If someone is asking, respect the opinions given, even if you disagree. Otherwise change the title to "I think he's XX" wide....and you have to agree"
And honetly, there are a few people on this board that would pass that buck....Steve and Mike being just a few. I really don't know how wide he is, as the photo's quality leaves a bit to be desired. But I am fairly confident in saying there's no way he'll measure in the 190's with the limited tine length I'm looking at. Again, JMO.
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>are saying I just have
>a problem with people slamming
>a guys buck saying BS
>like I pass them up
>like that, He's 26 wide
>not 30, big ones taste
>like sh&t, and it was
>time somebody called bs on
>the little boy from bc.
>Now i want to know
>if he's going to bet
>or back out? Im willing
>to have all of you
>for witnesses to our bet.
>
Now easy guy.....I don't think he was slamming anyone unless I read it wrong. He simply gave his opinion. I believe the title of this post is "How wide do you think he is?" If someone is asking, respect the opinions given, even if you disagree. Otherwise change the title to "I think he's XX" wide....and you have to agree"
And honetly, there are a few people on this board that would pass that buck....Steve and Mike being just a few. I really don't know how wide he is, as the photo's quality leaves a bit to be desired. But I am fairly confident in saying there's no way he'll measure in the 190's with the limited tine length I'm looking at. Again, JMO.
BOHNTR )))---------->
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Elkcrzy1
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And I say BS the boy hasnt passed up a buck like that before which is why I offered up a friendly wager and the boy gets to name the amount and you all get to be witnesses all we have to have is hunter231 kill him and put a tape on it. Sound fair enough ?
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Elkcrzy1
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I dont mind passing up 26" type bucks either Ive done it alot actually. Eastern plains of Colorado you get to see a fair share of that caliber buck. If you want to kill the big guys youd better be able to pass those up I agree but we arent looking at a 26" buck there. Like I said before he's closer to 30 than 26 and closer to 190 than 160. If the boy doesnt want it then maybe someone else does ?
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ShaneR_LewID
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He looks pretty 27ish, small ears, not a real big body. He doesn't appear to out weigh the forkhorn by much. In the photo where he is turned facing, it is difficult to tell if the antler shown is only white in color, or if there is extra width that is brown in color ( on animals left antler , or right side as we view it). It may just be background or vegetation. If it is brown horn on that side then he may in fact be 29ish. Looks like brown vegetation to me though. I don't see any reason to want to score him unless you shoot him with a bow.
A couple things to note, Video camera lenses distort images and make them look wider, and decent bucks with short g-2s tend to look wider than they really are.
A couple things to note, Video camera lenses distort images and make them look wider, and decent bucks with short g-2s tend to look wider than they really are.
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Elkcrzy and 231 that buck is identical in every way shape and form to a strip buck that our family killed two years ago, it was not 30 it was not 190, but it was pretty and a very nice buck. It was 27" it was close to 170 in score and i get to enjoy lookin at it on the wall every day.
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supersider34
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28" 175 tops
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cohntr6
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28" and 175-180"
My guess.
Why the animosity Gary?
I dont see bcboy in this post at all.
"When" is hunter231 going to kill it?
Jeff
My guess.
Why the animosity Gary?
I dont see bcboy in this post at all.
"When" is hunter231 going to kill it?
Jeff
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Jeff
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Elkcrzy1
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LAST EDITED ON Sep-26-08 AT 02:59PM (MST)[p]Sorry, I was lowering myself to his level. Thanks for catching me. You would have to seen the other related posts to understand. Gary
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cohntr6
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Legacy,
27 1/4" because he is hanging on our wall!! I would guess yours at 26"
I'll try to get the mounted buck picture up.
Jeff
27 1/4" because he is hanging on our wall!! I would guess yours at 26"
I'll try to get the mounted buck picture up.
Jeff
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cohntr6
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Legacy,
You wouldnt happen to have the Summer 2006 Trophy Hunter would you?
There is a couple pictures and the story on page 54.
i'll have to dig around for the cd with the pictures on it.
Send me your email and Ill send a picture of the mount I am having trouble getting the picture small enough for the posting guidelines.
[email protected]
Jeff
You wouldnt happen to have the Summer 2006 Trophy Hunter would you?
There is a couple pictures and the story on page 54.
i'll have to dig around for the cd with the pictures on it.
Send me your email and Ill send a picture of the mount I am having trouble getting the picture small enough for the posting guidelines.
[email protected]
Jeff
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I'd say 29" mid to high 170's
