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LAST EDITED ON Nov-25-08 AT 10:23AM (MST)[p]Anyone driven between Poky and the Utah boarder lately? All I can say is, wow. I don't think I have ever seen so many deer killed through this area. The interstate is covered in blood. I'm seriously in shock. We don't even have snow yet and all these deer have been hit. Very, very hard to see. Some nice bucks and lots of doe's and babies have been hit so far this winter. Whats the deal? No snow in the hills.. nice green grass in the hills, they have plenty of water... why come down? Is the rut really pushing them that hard down to the interstate? What's the deal? I've never seen it so bad so early in the winter. This isn't good for the numbers going into the snowy time of year. I just hope this winter is mild, we need all the deer kept alive we can get.
Anyone else notice this? Word to the folks getting off work after the sun goes down, be careful and drive slow. The autobody shops are working overtime.
I just came across this... WTF.
I DID NOT WRITE THIS.
This moron is blaming hunters for the number of deer on the roads and for the deer hit cars, and sometimes the unfortunate, killing people. Can you believe this guy. Its a long read.
Kill The Deer !
The Hunters
The Animal Rights Nuts
Your State Department of Fish & Game
All 3 groups work together in a symbiotic relationship keeping the deer population artifically high.
Hit a deer with your car and you'll find the average repair bill is $2200.00
Hit a deer with your car and you might even die! www.deercrash.com
The Insurance Information Institute estimates about 750,000 animal-vehicle collisions each year cause about$1.2 billion in damage nationwide. About 120 people die and another 10,000 are injured annually in such crashes, according to the National Safety Council.
The self-centered animal rights nuts make themselves feel better by their attempts to save the deer and stop deer hunting. They set up protests on opening day, they hassle hunters in the woods and file law suits against towns prohibiting the backyard feeding of deer. Suckers for the cow eyed deer, these emotionally misguided nuts do all they can to stop hunting and maintain an unnatural and dangerous population of deer.
The hunters call themselves conservationalists. They claim to maintain the deer herd as a valued public resource. The hunters play on the naivete of the animal rights nuts by claiming the culling of the herds helps prevent the suffering of deer starving due to overpopulation.
State Fish & Game "manage" the population. This means they work to keep the deer population high making it easy for hunters to find plenty of deer. This insures that hunting licenses will be sold and Fish & Game officials will get their salaries, vehicles and gas. Of course the state claims deer hunting only serves local economies - The Detroit News 12/1/2003 - "Deer Hunters Pump $1.2 Billion into Economy" by Edward L. Cardenas: "The annual hunt thins the state's estimated 1.8 million deer herd and also pumps $1.2 billion into Michigan businesses each year, with an estimated 775,000 hunters purchasing guns, ammunition, food, clothes and other supplies for their trips into the woods."
The state Fish & Game placates the animal rights nuts by claiming proper deer management and/or control prevents starving while at the same time telling hunters that deer management and regulation insure a good hunt. The sycophants at the Department of Fish & Game answers the families of those injured or killed in car crashes that they must "strike a balance" between the hunters and the animal rights groups.
Finally, the states patronize other critics by spending buckets of taxpayer money on research in an effort to show they are doing the right thing:
The Maryland Depatment of Natural Resources
The Pennsylvania Game Commission
New Jersey Divison of Fish, Game & Wildlife
New Yorks Deer Management Program
Some states admit there is a problem and hope to prevent automobile crashes with deer by spending tax money on education on how to avoid deer accidents:
New Jersey Deer Crash Coalition Basically it boils down to: If you are driving - please be careful!
The Solution
STOP THE MADNESS! Stop State Fish & Game from increasing the number of deer by managing them.
There were virtually no deer in New Jersey in the late 1950's until the New Jersey Fish & Game imported 6 Virginia White Tailed deer from Michigan. The state then proceeded to "manage" these deer to artificially high numbers. Familiar story in Pennsylvania.
Fish & Game must be held responsible for creating and maintaining the unnatural and dangerous population of deer.
Deer Kill People
Fatalities On The Rise In Vehicle-Animal Crashes, By Frederick J. Frommer Associated Press October 29, 2008
Pittsburgh TRIBUNE-REVIEW Tuesday, November 28, 2006 By Paul Peirce
A Bullskin Township hunter on his way to the woods for the first day of buck season was killed in a freak accident Monday.
Police said a deer jumped through his pickup's windshield along Route 982 in Fayette County. Christopher A. Eutsey Jr., 20, was pronounced dead at the scene of the 5:30 a.m. accident along the highway's intersection with Spruce Hollow Road, in Bullskin. State police Trooper Timothy Kirsch said Eutsey was driving south in his 1995 Chevrolet Silverado when the deer jumped from an embankment onto the hood of Eutsey's vehicle. Police said the deer rolled on the hood, through the front windshield and continued through the back window.
"We believe (Eutsey) died on impact," said deputy coroner Jessie Langer. The cause of Eutsey's death was blunt-force trauma of the head. Eutsey was employed in a family firm, Eutsey Lumber Co. in Scottdale. After the collision, which killed the deer, Kirsch said Eutsey fell across the front seat of the truck and his feet pressed on the accelerator. Police said the vehicle traveled without a driver for about 500 feet before glancing off a tree in the yard of 356 Pleasant Valley Road, crossing a driveway and striking an above-ground pool at 348 Pleasant Valley Road.
"There was no evidence of any evasive action taken by (Eutsey) at the scene, which indicates he never saw the deer come into his path," Kirsch said. Police said the truck came to rest after striking the pool. Family and friends of Eutsey will be received 7 to 9 p.m. Tuesday and 2 to 9 p.m. Wednesday at Brooks Funeral Home, Inc., at 111 E. Green St., Connellsville. Funeral services will be at 11 a.m. Thursday in the funeral home. He will be buried in the Eutsey Cemetery in White.
Toronto Star December 18, 2006 By Tamara Cherry
A man was killed after a deer struck by another vehicle was thrown into his Jeep on a highway northwest of the city this morning, Ontario Provincial Police say. A southbound vehicle struck the animal, throwing it across the road into a northbound car, Const. Julia McCuaig said.
Emergency crews responding to the scene on Highway 10, just north of 20th Sideroad, in Mono pronounced the driver of the northbound Jeep dead at the scene just before 7 a.m., McCuaig said. His age and name haven't been released. The male driver of the other vehicle was treated at the scene for minor injuries, she said. "Car and deer collisions do happen and drivers have to be very alert because the deer do come out on the roadway and they do not move. Deer become hypnotized by your headlights," said McCuaig, who has struck a deer before.
"I tried to avoid and the more I tried to avoid, it seemed, the more it followed me," she said. While deer usually wander onto the road in the spring, "when the bug season starts," and in the fall during mating season, there was one day last week McCuaig reported "maybe half a dozen" car versus deer collisions, she said. Highway 10 between Shelburne and Orangeville was closed until about 10:30 a.m. as investigators examined the scene.
The News-Press of Southwest Florida January 7, 2007 Car hits deer; driver dies By Jacob Ogles
A woman who had recently lived in Lehigh Acres died Tuesday night after her car hit a deer on State Road 31 near the Charlotte-Lee county line, according to the Florida Highway Patrol.
A 2002 Suzuki driven by Juana Juan, 31, of 1113 Gifford Ave. S., struck the deer around 9 p.m. near the intersection with Cook and Brown Road. The car apparently swerved off the western shoulder of the road. The vehicle's right side struck a large pine tree. The force of the tree against the vehicle caused the roof of the car to collapse, according to Sgt. Herbert Head.
Juan was dead when troopers arrived, Head said. She was wearing a seat belt. Head said alcohol does not appear to be a factor in the crash.
The deer also died, Head said. "When you hit a pig or a boar, you'll usually go right over the top of it," said Sgt. Owen Keen of the Florida Highway Patrol. "But when you hit a deer or cattle, where they are higher up, you knock their legs out and they will go over the hood." Head said he could not tell whether the deer hit the windshield of the car or was hurled forward.
Deer are the animal most often hit by drivers on the roads, troopers said. Head can recall four such crashes in the past few months. Some rural areas have problems with boars and bears. Around Alligator Alley, panther deaths happen occasionally. But it is rare for the driver to die in such wrecks, Keen said.
With Juan, Keen said it is more likely that the impact with the tree caused her death. But he reminded drivers, especially those in rural areas, to be mindful of animals on the roads. It's just like hitting a pedestrian, and it can do a lot of damage," he said.
The Daily Home Taladega Alabama January 1, 2007 Childersburg man killed in freak accident involving a deer By Denise Sinclair
A 47-year-old Childersburg man was killed in a freak accident early Monday when a deer came through a window of the truck he was riding in and struck him. Talladega County Coroner Jerry Castleberry said Gary Wayne Thornton was a passenger in a 1993 Chevrolet pickup truck driven by Larry Avery Jr., also of Childersburg.
The two men were on their way to work in the Grasmere area when the accident occurred at around 5:40 a.m. six miles north of Childersburg on Alabama 235. Castleberry said another vehicle was traveling south on Alabama 235, while Avery and Thornton were going north."The car in the southbound lane struck a deer. The deer went airborne and into the windshield on the passenger side of Averys truck, killing the passenger instantly," Castleberry said. No one else was injured in the accident, he said.
Thornton was pronounced dead at the scene by Castleberry at 6:50 a.m. The accident remains under investigation by the Alabama Department of Public Safety Highway Patrol Division.
The Courier-News February 2, 2007 A 10 year old passenger was taken to hospital after bounding deer directly hits winshield of Jeep Liberty on Route 22 in North Plainfield, New Jersey.
Here's more deer news:
In 2002 the Wisconsin Natural Resources Board approved a plan to kill 25,000 deer in an area west of Madison to control chronic wasting disease. The Board banned hunters from setting bait traps. Board Chairman Trygve Solberg of Minocqua said that a ban on feeding and baiting will make it harder for many hunters to kill deer, and banning it will keep some hunters at home. www.jsonline.com/news/state/jun02/54042.asp
Hunterdon County Democrat January 26, 2006. "Farmers Plea: Teeming Deer Must Be Killed" By Deb Dawson. Members of the county Board of Agriculture want the Freeholders to take an active role in controlling the county's deer population. They say "devastating deer population prevents the cultivation of high-value crops and in some instances results in the abandonment of productive farmland." In a letter, the Board of Agriculture encouraged the Freeholders "to establish a sound deer-management plan, a plan that reduces deer populations to a level that farmers and profitable farmland can tolerate." ...The freeholders agreed on Tuesday that the deer are a problem."...According to Mr. Michalenko, a crop farmer in Delaware Township, Hunterdons deer population densities have been documented in the parts of the county "at or just above 200 per square mile." This is 10 times the state Department of Fish & Games recommended density of 20 per square mile" “?…Freeholder Director Nancy Palladino said "It is clear (the deer) are over populated, and the second thing is the deforestation that occurs...John Glynn director of the county department of Roads, Bridges and Engineering said about 25% of the accidents on county roads are related to animals, mostly deer..."
Associated Press Tuesday November 3, 2005 ?“Man kills buck with his bare hands?” BENTONVILLE, ARK?– For 40 exhausting minutes, Wayne Goldsberry battled a buck with his bare hands in his daughter?’s bedroom. Goldsberry finally subdued the five-point white-tailed deer that crashed through a bedroom window at his daughter?’s home Friday. When it was over, blood splattered the walls and the deer lay dead on the bedroom floor, its neck broken. Goldsberry was at his daughter?’s home when he heard glass breaking. He went back to check on the noise and found the deer. ?“I was standing about like this peeking around the corner when the deer came out of the bedroom," said Goldsberry. The deer ran down the hall and jumped into the master bedroom?–?“jumping back and forth across the bed.?” Goldsberry, about 6-feet-one and 200 pounds, entered the bedroom to confront the deer, and after a brief struggle, emerged to tell his wife to call police. After returning to the bedroom, the fight continued. Goldsberry was finally able to grip the animal and twist its neck, killing it. Goldsberry dragged the dead animal out of the house. ?“He got kicked several times. He was walking bowlegged for awhile,?” Deputy Doug Gay said. Goldsberry had the deer butchered. ?“He?’s in the freezer,?” the man said before walking to the kitchen and showing off freshly wrapped venison.
The King's Deer
If it is illegal to kill the states deer without a permit and without obeying all the state regulations and if the state collects all the fees concerning its deer, why is the state not liable for the damage caused by its deer?
On October 10, 2006 the Hunterdon County Board of Freeholders sued the New Jersey Department of Transportation after the state stopped paying for the removal of dead deer from local roads. www.co.hunterdon.nj.us/deer/DeerCarcassBrief.pdf
Anyone else notice this? Word to the folks getting off work after the sun goes down, be careful and drive slow. The autobody shops are working overtime.
I just came across this... WTF.
I DID NOT WRITE THIS.
This moron is blaming hunters for the number of deer on the roads and for the deer hit cars, and sometimes the unfortunate, killing people. Can you believe this guy. Its a long read.
Kill The Deer !
The Hunters
The Animal Rights Nuts
Your State Department of Fish & Game
All 3 groups work together in a symbiotic relationship keeping the deer population artifically high.
Hit a deer with your car and you'll find the average repair bill is $2200.00
Hit a deer with your car and you might even die! www.deercrash.com
The Insurance Information Institute estimates about 750,000 animal-vehicle collisions each year cause about$1.2 billion in damage nationwide. About 120 people die and another 10,000 are injured annually in such crashes, according to the National Safety Council.
The self-centered animal rights nuts make themselves feel better by their attempts to save the deer and stop deer hunting. They set up protests on opening day, they hassle hunters in the woods and file law suits against towns prohibiting the backyard feeding of deer. Suckers for the cow eyed deer, these emotionally misguided nuts do all they can to stop hunting and maintain an unnatural and dangerous population of deer.
The hunters call themselves conservationalists. They claim to maintain the deer herd as a valued public resource. The hunters play on the naivete of the animal rights nuts by claiming the culling of the herds helps prevent the suffering of deer starving due to overpopulation.
State Fish & Game "manage" the population. This means they work to keep the deer population high making it easy for hunters to find plenty of deer. This insures that hunting licenses will be sold and Fish & Game officials will get their salaries, vehicles and gas. Of course the state claims deer hunting only serves local economies - The Detroit News 12/1/2003 - "Deer Hunters Pump $1.2 Billion into Economy" by Edward L. Cardenas: "The annual hunt thins the state's estimated 1.8 million deer herd and also pumps $1.2 billion into Michigan businesses each year, with an estimated 775,000 hunters purchasing guns, ammunition, food, clothes and other supplies for their trips into the woods."
The state Fish & Game placates the animal rights nuts by claiming proper deer management and/or control prevents starving while at the same time telling hunters that deer management and regulation insure a good hunt. The sycophants at the Department of Fish & Game answers the families of those injured or killed in car crashes that they must "strike a balance" between the hunters and the animal rights groups.
Finally, the states patronize other critics by spending buckets of taxpayer money on research in an effort to show they are doing the right thing:
The Maryland Depatment of Natural Resources
The Pennsylvania Game Commission
New Jersey Divison of Fish, Game & Wildlife
New Yorks Deer Management Program
Some states admit there is a problem and hope to prevent automobile crashes with deer by spending tax money on education on how to avoid deer accidents:
New Jersey Deer Crash Coalition Basically it boils down to: If you are driving - please be careful!
The Solution
STOP THE MADNESS! Stop State Fish & Game from increasing the number of deer by managing them.
There were virtually no deer in New Jersey in the late 1950's until the New Jersey Fish & Game imported 6 Virginia White Tailed deer from Michigan. The state then proceeded to "manage" these deer to artificially high numbers. Familiar story in Pennsylvania.
Fish & Game must be held responsible for creating and maintaining the unnatural and dangerous population of deer.
Deer Kill People
Fatalities On The Rise In Vehicle-Animal Crashes, By Frederick J. Frommer Associated Press October 29, 2008
Pittsburgh TRIBUNE-REVIEW Tuesday, November 28, 2006 By Paul Peirce
A Bullskin Township hunter on his way to the woods for the first day of buck season was killed in a freak accident Monday.
Police said a deer jumped through his pickup's windshield along Route 982 in Fayette County. Christopher A. Eutsey Jr., 20, was pronounced dead at the scene of the 5:30 a.m. accident along the highway's intersection with Spruce Hollow Road, in Bullskin. State police Trooper Timothy Kirsch said Eutsey was driving south in his 1995 Chevrolet Silverado when the deer jumped from an embankment onto the hood of Eutsey's vehicle. Police said the deer rolled on the hood, through the front windshield and continued through the back window.
"We believe (Eutsey) died on impact," said deputy coroner Jessie Langer. The cause of Eutsey's death was blunt-force trauma of the head. Eutsey was employed in a family firm, Eutsey Lumber Co. in Scottdale. After the collision, which killed the deer, Kirsch said Eutsey fell across the front seat of the truck and his feet pressed on the accelerator. Police said the vehicle traveled without a driver for about 500 feet before glancing off a tree in the yard of 356 Pleasant Valley Road, crossing a driveway and striking an above-ground pool at 348 Pleasant Valley Road.
"There was no evidence of any evasive action taken by (Eutsey) at the scene, which indicates he never saw the deer come into his path," Kirsch said. Police said the truck came to rest after striking the pool. Family and friends of Eutsey will be received 7 to 9 p.m. Tuesday and 2 to 9 p.m. Wednesday at Brooks Funeral Home, Inc., at 111 E. Green St., Connellsville. Funeral services will be at 11 a.m. Thursday in the funeral home. He will be buried in the Eutsey Cemetery in White.
Toronto Star December 18, 2006 By Tamara Cherry
A man was killed after a deer struck by another vehicle was thrown into his Jeep on a highway northwest of the city this morning, Ontario Provincial Police say. A southbound vehicle struck the animal, throwing it across the road into a northbound car, Const. Julia McCuaig said.
Emergency crews responding to the scene on Highway 10, just north of 20th Sideroad, in Mono pronounced the driver of the northbound Jeep dead at the scene just before 7 a.m., McCuaig said. His age and name haven't been released. The male driver of the other vehicle was treated at the scene for minor injuries, she said. "Car and deer collisions do happen and drivers have to be very alert because the deer do come out on the roadway and they do not move. Deer become hypnotized by your headlights," said McCuaig, who has struck a deer before.
"I tried to avoid and the more I tried to avoid, it seemed, the more it followed me," she said. While deer usually wander onto the road in the spring, "when the bug season starts," and in the fall during mating season, there was one day last week McCuaig reported "maybe half a dozen" car versus deer collisions, she said. Highway 10 between Shelburne and Orangeville was closed until about 10:30 a.m. as investigators examined the scene.
The News-Press of Southwest Florida January 7, 2007 Car hits deer; driver dies By Jacob Ogles
A woman who had recently lived in Lehigh Acres died Tuesday night after her car hit a deer on State Road 31 near the Charlotte-Lee county line, according to the Florida Highway Patrol.
A 2002 Suzuki driven by Juana Juan, 31, of 1113 Gifford Ave. S., struck the deer around 9 p.m. near the intersection with Cook and Brown Road. The car apparently swerved off the western shoulder of the road. The vehicle's right side struck a large pine tree. The force of the tree against the vehicle caused the roof of the car to collapse, according to Sgt. Herbert Head.
Juan was dead when troopers arrived, Head said. She was wearing a seat belt. Head said alcohol does not appear to be a factor in the crash.
The deer also died, Head said. "When you hit a pig or a boar, you'll usually go right over the top of it," said Sgt. Owen Keen of the Florida Highway Patrol. "But when you hit a deer or cattle, where they are higher up, you knock their legs out and they will go over the hood." Head said he could not tell whether the deer hit the windshield of the car or was hurled forward.
Deer are the animal most often hit by drivers on the roads, troopers said. Head can recall four such crashes in the past few months. Some rural areas have problems with boars and bears. Around Alligator Alley, panther deaths happen occasionally. But it is rare for the driver to die in such wrecks, Keen said.
With Juan, Keen said it is more likely that the impact with the tree caused her death. But he reminded drivers, especially those in rural areas, to be mindful of animals on the roads. It's just like hitting a pedestrian, and it can do a lot of damage," he said.
The Daily Home Taladega Alabama January 1, 2007 Childersburg man killed in freak accident involving a deer By Denise Sinclair
A 47-year-old Childersburg man was killed in a freak accident early Monday when a deer came through a window of the truck he was riding in and struck him. Talladega County Coroner Jerry Castleberry said Gary Wayne Thornton was a passenger in a 1993 Chevrolet pickup truck driven by Larry Avery Jr., also of Childersburg.
The two men were on their way to work in the Grasmere area when the accident occurred at around 5:40 a.m. six miles north of Childersburg on Alabama 235. Castleberry said another vehicle was traveling south on Alabama 235, while Avery and Thornton were going north."The car in the southbound lane struck a deer. The deer went airborne and into the windshield on the passenger side of Averys truck, killing the passenger instantly," Castleberry said. No one else was injured in the accident, he said.
Thornton was pronounced dead at the scene by Castleberry at 6:50 a.m. The accident remains under investigation by the Alabama Department of Public Safety Highway Patrol Division.
The Courier-News February 2, 2007 A 10 year old passenger was taken to hospital after bounding deer directly hits winshield of Jeep Liberty on Route 22 in North Plainfield, New Jersey.
Here's more deer news:
In 2002 the Wisconsin Natural Resources Board approved a plan to kill 25,000 deer in an area west of Madison to control chronic wasting disease. The Board banned hunters from setting bait traps. Board Chairman Trygve Solberg of Minocqua said that a ban on feeding and baiting will make it harder for many hunters to kill deer, and banning it will keep some hunters at home. www.jsonline.com/news/state/jun02/54042.asp
Hunterdon County Democrat January 26, 2006. "Farmers Plea: Teeming Deer Must Be Killed" By Deb Dawson. Members of the county Board of Agriculture want the Freeholders to take an active role in controlling the county's deer population. They say "devastating deer population prevents the cultivation of high-value crops and in some instances results in the abandonment of productive farmland." In a letter, the Board of Agriculture encouraged the Freeholders "to establish a sound deer-management plan, a plan that reduces deer populations to a level that farmers and profitable farmland can tolerate." ...The freeholders agreed on Tuesday that the deer are a problem."...According to Mr. Michalenko, a crop farmer in Delaware Township, Hunterdons deer population densities have been documented in the parts of the county "at or just above 200 per square mile." This is 10 times the state Department of Fish & Games recommended density of 20 per square mile" “?…Freeholder Director Nancy Palladino said "It is clear (the deer) are over populated, and the second thing is the deforestation that occurs...John Glynn director of the county department of Roads, Bridges and Engineering said about 25% of the accidents on county roads are related to animals, mostly deer..."
Associated Press Tuesday November 3, 2005 ?“Man kills buck with his bare hands?” BENTONVILLE, ARK?– For 40 exhausting minutes, Wayne Goldsberry battled a buck with his bare hands in his daughter?’s bedroom. Goldsberry finally subdued the five-point white-tailed deer that crashed through a bedroom window at his daughter?’s home Friday. When it was over, blood splattered the walls and the deer lay dead on the bedroom floor, its neck broken. Goldsberry was at his daughter?’s home when he heard glass breaking. He went back to check on the noise and found the deer. ?“I was standing about like this peeking around the corner when the deer came out of the bedroom," said Goldsberry. The deer ran down the hall and jumped into the master bedroom?–?“jumping back and forth across the bed.?” Goldsberry, about 6-feet-one and 200 pounds, entered the bedroom to confront the deer, and after a brief struggle, emerged to tell his wife to call police. After returning to the bedroom, the fight continued. Goldsberry was finally able to grip the animal and twist its neck, killing it. Goldsberry dragged the dead animal out of the house. ?“He got kicked several times. He was walking bowlegged for awhile,?” Deputy Doug Gay said. Goldsberry had the deer butchered. ?“He?’s in the freezer,?” the man said before walking to the kitchen and showing off freshly wrapped venison.
The King's Deer
If it is illegal to kill the states deer without a permit and without obeying all the state regulations and if the state collects all the fees concerning its deer, why is the state not liable for the damage caused by its deer?
On October 10, 2006 the Hunterdon County Board of Freeholders sued the New Jersey Department of Transportation after the state stopped paying for the removal of dead deer from local roads. www.co.hunterdon.nj.us/deer/DeerCarcassBrief.pdf
