Archers Still get to hunt Statewide

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Archers Still get to hunt Statewide

I am learning we all need to quit jumping to conclusions, still sucks for us archery hunters but its not all that bad!! Just means the South wil get POUNDED the last 9 days of the hunt!!

BUCK DEER

Archery changes: If you like to hunt during Utah's general archery buck deer hunt, you'll have to wait until Sept. 2 to hunt statewide.

Utah's general season archery buck deer hunt runs Aug. 15 to Sept. 11 on most of the units in the state.

You can hunt in a single region until Sept. 1. Starting Sept. 2, you can hunt in any region in the state.

"Hunters in southern Utah are concerned that too many archery hunters are hunting in the Southern Region at the start of the season," Aoude says.

"Depending on which region you choose to hunt in, this change could prevent you from hunting in the Southern Region at the start of the archery season. But you can still hunt in the region halfway through the season."

General archery permits are capped at 16,000. But within that cap, there's no limit on the number of permits that can be sold for each region.

When you buy your permit, just indicate which region you want to hunt in. You can hunt in that region until Sept. 1.

Starting Sept. 2, you can hunt in any region in the state.

 

[Broadside_Shot]

RE: Archers Still get to hunt Statewide

It's the principle of it all. Why make changes for changes sake. What defines overcrowding, there are more rifle hunters than archery hunters but overcrowding dosen't get brought up with rifle hunters. It has already been proven that most people hunt the area they live in. The bottom line is it is a change due to personal agenda and people feeling things aren't "fair". When we start managing this way, it will be the beginning of the end.

Jerry

 

[NeverStopHuntin]

RE: Archers Still get to hunt Statewide

What makes you think that the south will get pounded the last nine days of the hunt?

Everysingle bowhunter in the state could possibly pick southern as their region of choice. I personally think that all the guys that enjoy hunting southern utah are just going to pick southern as their unit and the pressure will be the exact same. Why would anyone change the area they love to hunt?

 

[BrowningRage]

RE: Archers Still get to hunt Statewide

We're missing the point here fellas... Southern hunters who live in the southern region who may think it "unfair" that non-southern residents hunt where they do had better realize what is happening here...
This plan is a way for the DWR to try and track how many hunters are hunting the southern region archery. For arguments sake, my understanding is that it's possible that all 16,000 permits could be sold as "Southern" archery tags... The DWR obviously has a "sold tags" number in mind for what they will deem as over-crowding, and then the DWR will make the area a draw, even for archery only... Then the southern hunters who live where they hunt will have to put in for it just like everyone else...
Southern hunters/residents, if I were you I'd stop complaining about too many hunters... The DWR is gonna make it harder for you to shoot great bucks in your backyards!!! The writing is on the walls my friends...

 

[BrowningRage]

RE: Archers Still get to hunt Statewide

Changing things because they aren't "FAIR" is the way our nation is going my friend... That's basic Liberal Ideology!!!

Personally it disgusts me... I'm with you, "change for changes sake" is absurd!!!

Those of us who have to travel farther for scouting trips and to hunt, and who have to take off work rather than hunt before and after each day, work harder to earn our southern archery buck... I think that means we are more deserving... LOL If only slightly... LOL

 

[diehard1]

RE: Archers Still get to hunt Statewide

I HAVE NOT BEEN ON THE WEB SITE TO READ ABOUT IT, IF YOU CHOOSE TO HUNT THE SOUTH AND DONT GET ANYTHING,HOW DOES IT AFFECT THE EXTENDED ARCHERY SEASON

 

[NeverStopHuntin]

RE: Archers Still get to hunt Statewide

Diehard1. After september 1 everyone is allowed to hunt statewide again including extended archery

 

[echoman]

RE: Archers Still get to hunt Statewide

I suggest that all you archery hunters put in for the southern tag this year because things are going to go to hell real fast now that they have decided to put the rifle hunt to 9 days. Thats two weekends!
I have grown up here in Southern Utah my entire life and have many memories going out with my dad, uncles, and friends and seeing nice deer. Then about the time I was old enough to hunt it was terrible. Even so that the decision was made to make the rifle a 5 day hunt. If I remember that was what ten years ago?It has only been in the last 2 or 3 years, in my opinion where we are now seeing the benefits of making that decision. Now, a guy or gal has a good chance of seeing a nice buck on the hunt and what do they do? Implement the same damn hunt that ruined before. Since that time habitat has been eaten up by development, it doesn;t even look the same around here and the number of good hunters have increased. I really don't know what the DWR or us were thinking in letting this happen. I suggested tacking on extra days slowly, maybe a 6 or 7 day hunt this year and a 7 or 8 day hunt the next.
I am trying to stay optimistic but the whole thing is saddening.

 

[Silentstalker]

RE: Archers Still get to hunt Statewide

Echoman,

I feel your frustration. I sat in the Wildlife Board meeting and the numbers the DWR have actually show the harvest is no different with a 9 day hunt. (Don't kill the messenger!) I am not saying I believe them, just stating what they said. I would not suggest anyone rush down to the southern region for any reason other than that is where you usually hunt. My BIGGEST fear with the new changes is hunters doing exactly as you suggest. I hope hunters stay with what they have been doing. No region deserves an onslaught of hunters. The deer herds need our help.

I am frustrated by the process, even though it will not change my hunting style directly.

 

[need4x4]

RE: Archers Still get to hunt Statewide

I would like to see the numbers that show 9 day season not increasing the harvest?

I think a good snow increases the harvest and this gives twice the chance for a weekend snow.

If you have the numbers with snow, I think you'll see a big difference in harvest.

Second weekend with snow and an open season vs. second weekend with snow and no open season. This is a no brainer.

I don't believe these numbers they are talking about. It helps non residents, as they stay longer during the week. It helps residents as they will come back for another weekend. More deer will be taken, there is no question.

 

[Rackster]

RE: Archers Still get to hunt Statewide

The DWR does have the numbers. Believe it or not, its a fact. If you don't want to believe the facts, that is up to you. The DWR found that most people hunting a five day hunt usually hunt harder and longer than those people hunting the 9 day hunt. You would think that given more time on a hunt, you would hunt longer. However, this does not turn out to be what actually happens. Anyone hunting the 5 day hunts, ask yourself how many days you spent hunting. When you hunted the 9 day hunts, did you hunt more days than on the 5 day hunt? Some may say Yes, but the DWR found that most people said No. The DWR also has the #'s to show the higher harvest in the 5 day hunts.

 

[KingKong]

RE: Archers Still get to hunt Statewide

You guys can throw all the stones that you want, and you usually do.

For the first couple of years the five day hunt seemed to work great. When we went down to take pictures of bucks during the rut, we were slowly seeing more and more mature bucks show up each year, until about two years ago. Granted, fires made a huge dent in the cover that the bucks had and some good bucks were killed, most of them in burns. But what we have noticed in the last two or three years is that people are feeling the pressure to just "kill a buck". We have seen more spikes and two points killed in the last two years, than we have in a long, long time. When the shooting starts it takes the bigger bucks a day or two to calm down and come out of the cover, and the little ones are stupid most of the time. Because of the lack of seeing bigger bucks in the 5 days and not killing anything the last couple of years, they are shooting two points and spikes opening morning. My hope is that the DWR is correct and that people will not feel the need or pressure to just kill something and will try and hold out for the bigger bucks.

 

[thebuckstopshere]

9 day Southern Utah Hunt

My understanding is that it was people in the Southern Region that wanted the 9 day hunt. In fact, I have been told, and have read that, the Southern RAC has voted to go back to a nine day hunt for the last few years, only to be overruled by the Wildlife Board. The DWR has proposed the nine day hunt for Southern Utah since at least 2005. Reasons given have ranged from more deer are killed in a five day hunt than are in a nine day hunt, to the kids need two weekends to hunt.

Portions of the Southern Region went to five day hunting in 1999. It has only been about the last five years that the entire region was five days.

It cracks me up to see "hunters" (and I use that term loosely with some of you) bitching about the DWR extending a hunting season a few more days. I think some of you "hunters" would just as soon they call it after the opening morning. Its damn few times in life that when the govt takes something away, they give it back. Id take the nine days and RUN!!!