If you have 11 bonus points for deer in AZ......

[DonMartin]

If you are a non-resident and have 11 bonus points for deer in AZ then the only way you're gonna have a chance to draw a late 12B, 13A, 13B, 12A West (late)or 12A East (late) tag is by getting into the max bonus point pool.(Sorry this my my position and not that of the AZ G&F Dept.)

Right now about 266 NR's are in that pool. Another 500 or so have 11 points and most only need the AZ Hunter Ed permanent point to get into that magical max pool.

My Hunter Ed team is doing our last one-day supplemental (NR) class in Kingman for '09 on April 18.

Take this class and you join the hunters in the max pool who, IMO are the only ones who have a chance at one of those premium deer tags.

The permanent bonus point is good for more than deer however. It is good for ALL of Arizona's big game animals, so if you apply for ANY of Arizona's big game tags, you ought to take this class. It will help you draw tags!

To sign up, contact Dave Williams at AZ G&F at 623-236-7434 and he'll have you FAX him a copy of your state's hunter ed card that shows you graduated from a class since 1980. Then and only then, will he sign you up.

Right now I have about 16 spots left in the class.

This is a one-day (12 hour) class and it starts promptly at 7 a.m. AZ time.

If nothing else, find out how the AZ draw truly works--it might be different than you think! Plus I have the latest data on the number of sportsmen in every level of bonus points for each species of big game animals.

Don Martin
Chief Instructor
Arizona Hunter Education
Kingman, AZ
[email protected]
928-681-4867

 

[Drnaln]

Don,I'm flying to Las Vegas on the 17th & renting a car & driving to Kingman.Anyone needed a ride can let me know.
David

 

[Elmacho]

Don-

how does it look for residents? At 7 points going into this year and looking for 12aw. Any advice would be appreciated.
Trying to decide whether to wait or just go early or after dec coues......thanks.


Mark

 

[NMPaul]

Don, hope I am not hijacking thread.

I have 10 points for AZ deer. I have not taken the class and I cannot this year.

Honestly, I do not want to draw another out of state tag this year.

Question is this.

Realistically how long before I can draw 13B or ave a reasonable chance.


Thanks

 

[ElmerFudd]

LAST EDITED ON Feb-27-09 AT 06:17PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Feb-27-09 AT 06:14?PM (MST)

I think the nonresident top pool (at least 13B only guys) has been growing by more guys one off getting in with hunter education than guys drawing out. Plus 13B rifle tags are cut for the archery hunt, skimming off the top rifle pool more slowly. So unless they change the system, realistically forget it if you are a nonresident not in the top pool, or one off without the education point. And if you are one off the top, the education point is EVERYTHING. Less value if not. Ten points is about as good as zero if you are middle aged and want 13B rifle.

 

[M77]

Whats up with Hunter Ed prior to 1980
i..e what if you passed one before then.

 

[OutdoorWriter]

LAST EDITED ON Feb-28-09 AT 06:50AM (MST)[p]M77,

You have to retake the course. I was an instructor in AZ and CO during the 1970s. It was meaningless under the rule as written.


TONY MANDILE

How To Hunt Coues Deer