300wsm / 7mm rem mag accuracy

casper31 · Mar 7, 2009

Just wondering your opinion on the 300wsm and the original 7mm remington mag as far as accuracy go's.

Probebly half a dozen one of the other,but just cartridge verse cartridge not what gun its shot out of because there will be great guns in both calibers.also anybody shot the berger 168 vld bullet out of a 7mm mag,it has a .617 bc which is huge downrange.other than that the 2 calibers with barnes x bullets are fairly close. I just can't make up my mind as to which one to choose.when I do choose its going to be a sako 85.Which one would you guy's go with for out west deer and elk mid to long range.And no im not going for extreme stuff like best of the west tv show. thanks casper

YukonDall · Mar 7, 2009

I HAVE & SHOT A 7MM FOR 28 YEARS.....FINE ROUND. I HAVE REPLACED IT WITH MY MORE VERSATILE .300WSM.....EXCELLENT ROUND............YD.

7 · Mar 8, 2009

I've been shooting 7mm's since the late 70's & they've never failed me. My handloaded Rem 7 Mag will shoot under 1" with 160gr Nosler Partitions & Accubonds. I haven't shot the Berger bullets so i can't help you there.

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ELKOHOLIC · Mar 8, 2009

I also shoot Accubonds and Partitions out of a 7 mag. I would also like to shoot the 168 gr. Berger's, but the Accubond works so well I don't have a reason to switch.

Every one seems to prefer the 300's over the 7mm mag. I guess I will have to see what all the fuss is about. All I know is the 7mm has always got the job done.

NDMuley · Mar 8, 2009

have shot 7mm for 30 years never let me down. dont like how it kicks but love the gun .shot many elk an deer usually 1' shot drops them very few 2nd shots. have never lost an animal with this gun. onlygun i shoot for deer an elk. have never tried 3oo maybe it is a good gun good luck
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bigmoose · Mar 8, 2009

Both are fine for accuracy. I think I would lean towards the 300WSM for elk, mainly because of the heavier bullets available for that caliber. Hard to beat a 200 grain Nosler Partition for elk. The 180's or 165's would be great on deer. My two cents. Moose

HTG · Mar 8, 2009

The Bergers didn't shoot very well out of my Weatherby 7mm. I was originally shooting Hornady ammo and had great accuracy with it but wanted to try the Bergers because of there long range accuracy reputation. I tried several different loads and finally found one that would group at about 1.5" moa at 100 yards, but found no consistancy at 200 and 300 yards.

clifhunter · Mar 8, 2009

I shoot the berger 168 out of a remington 7mm with a huskemaw scope the same set up as ehe best of the west. it shoots great and acerat out to a 1000 yards.I would put that bullet up against a 300 any day

MEANTTOBBUCK · Mar 8, 2009

Some Monster Muley guys gave me advice to get a 300WSM a few years back and I have been very thankful for it ever since. Both my son and I have one now and we have made one shot kills on 4 elk and two deer. The 180 grain Barnes TSX puts them down. We both have great confidence in these 300's.

YukonDall · Mar 8, 2009

MTB BUCK, I TO SHOOT THE TSX 180 GR. IN THE .300WSM....I THINK THAT ROUND WAS MEANT TO SHOOT THE 180 BULLET......GREAT ON ALL BIG GAME. I DROPPED A MOOSE IN HIS TRACKS WITH THE 180 TSX THIS LAST YEAR.........YD.

MEANTTOBBUCK · Mar 8, 2009

Great to know that it works that well on that big of animal. It is good to stick with one round that is accurate and knocks em down, from deer to moose.

Buckblaster · Mar 12, 2009

I'm not sure what the caliber has to do with accuracy. It boils down to the rifle and the load being compatible with each other to create accuracy.

littlebighorn · Mar 12, 2009

I switched from a 7MM Mag to a 300WSM five years ago. I think the accuracy is similar from my guns, but I had to work up the right loads for both. I am pretty finicky about getting 1" groups(or close).
The thing I love about my new gun is how great it is to handle. I bought a stainless/synthetic stalked Browning A bolt and it is the best packing gun I have ever owned. The Best of the West guys would say if you are going really long range to stick with the 7MM Berger Bullet set up. But they also say if you are doing that kind of shooting, you need a heavy rifle(at least 8lbs w/o scope). I haven't shot the Bergers, but I love my Barnes TS.
Good luck in picking your poison.

norby · Mar 12, 2009

I made the change from 7mm rem mag to a 300wsm last year. I bought a sako 85 in stainless/synthetic and love it. Awesome rifle, you won't be disappointed.

mozey · Mar 14, 2009

I have both a 7mm and 300WSM in Tikka T-3. Hard for me say which is more accurate overall--it depends on the bullet. I'm extremely happy with both rifles, and both are topped with Sightron scopes. Both rounds made me put down the extra $30 for a limbsaver.

My 7mm shoots sub inch groups with Federal Premiums 175-grain Trophy Bonded Bear Claw. It took some experimenting with different brands and bullets to settle on that load.

My 300WSM shoots sub inch groups Remington Premier 180-grain Swift Scirocco. It also took some experimenting with different brands and bullets to settle on that load.

Tried the premium lines for Winchester, Federal, and Remington for both rifles. In both cases, Winchester finished a close second, while Federal and Remington swapped first for third depending on the rifle.

I've had the 7mm for almost four years and the 300WSM since right after Obama got elected. I don't think you could go wrong with either, but if I had to choose just one, right now I think I'd lean just slightly to the 300WSM (just made the best shot of my life with it on the back of the neck of a fleeing barbary two days ago). I think the 300WSM gives a little more assurance on elk or bigger game. But I still intend to pack the 7mm on my deer hunts.

sniper53 · Mar 16, 2009

They are both inherintly accurate calibers, so one must choose what he shoots most accurately and use some judgement on the size of game your after. I found diminishing returns on the 7mm's above 150 grain wt where as the 30's come into there own with 150's and up. I shoot 168 G Barnes TSX, 30 cal, a very tough bullet short range and long, and they say will open up at 1400/fps yet if you are a long range guy bumping the speeds up, like I do ( 3700/fps ) and happen to shoot something in close, is probably the only bullet that won't come apart on you. I have shot barnes bullets for years and have sub 1 MOA. I shoot berger bullets out of my bench rest rifles and they are very accurate but light jacketed bullets. Have been told that best of the west does not tell you of all the lost game they shoot to get a good drop on camera. Cutting into 1 berger game bullet reminded me of the nosler ballistic tip I shot into the largest Muley I have ever come accross, only to see a hunk of fur blown off twice at 60 yards before this animal ran off. The Hornady people also lied to me about their accurate yet lousy SST bullet that I shot at over 500 yards and exploded on the shoulder like a gernade, took 2 more shots to kill muley. These type off bullets I believe should not hit animals over 2600/fps....over!

bobcatbess · Mar 16, 2009

I SHOOT A 7MAG WITH 150'S!!!

MY SON SHOOTS A 300 WSM WITH 180'S!!!

SPEED IS VERY COMPARABLE!!!

THE 300 WSM WILL PUT EM DOWN!!!

ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS PICK UP THE PIECES!!!

SHOOTS WAY BETTER THAN I THOUGHT IT EVER WOULD AFTER LOOKING AT THE CASE!!!

THE 300 WSM HAS MORE KNOCK DOWN BUT EITHER GUN WILL GIT-R-DONE!!!

BOTH ACCURATE GUNS/CALIBERS!!!

"I'M NOT COMPLAINING,I'M TELLING IT THE WAY IT IS,SOME OF YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT,THATS O.K.,SOMETIMES THE TRUTH HURTS & YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT IT,OR YOU FIND OUT WHAT THE FACTS ARE,STAND UP & VOICE YOUR OWN OPINION,THIS IS STILL AMERICA THE LAST TIME I CHECKED"!!!

REMEMBER!!!

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