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CAN SOMEONE HELP IDAHO OR COLORADO HUNTED COLORADO FOR YEARS NOT BAD HOWS IDAHO ELK AND MULEY HUNTING
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long cast from idaho but i could make it ..how long did it take you to troll there #%&*#$hole
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man I'm just looking for a good spot my dad is 77 yrs old and we have hunted colorado for years and he wants to try to go to idaho but i hate to spend $$$$$ and drive from michigan and not see game just want to take my old man some where new and have a good chance i know it's steep so thinking the southern part
any part of idaho that isnt steep is a draw unit or its crawling with californians....and some of them are even starting to crawl into the steep stuff. found a couple at 8500 feet last year...they were so scared of the dark, they kept a bonfire burning all night long...
all joking aside, I live in idaho and am starting to look at colorado, unless you are looking at hunting wolves...then come on over!!!!
all joking aside, I live in idaho and am starting to look at colorado, unless you are looking at hunting wolves...then come on over!!!!
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so what about the access yes thing I'm reading about
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huntngrunt
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do you know anything about this i talked to a very nice lady out there and she told me they had quit a few nice bucks and there were elk i mean I'm not paying her any help would be appreciated
so is this access yes worth taking a chance or should i pay a trespass fee somewhere else
so is this access yes worth taking a chance or should i pay a trespass fee somewhere else
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huntngrunt
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if anyone can tell me where i can pay a trespass fee hunt and get tags over the counter tags or a lease i have 4 to 6 guys
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Go to Colorado. Southern Idaho is crawling with dumbazz atver's. I'm hunting Montana myself this year.
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quote/Lip_Curl
"any part of idaho that isnt steep is a draw unit or its crawling with californians....and some of them are even starting to crawl into the steep stuff. found a couple at 8500 feet last year...they were so scared of the dark, they kept a bonfire burning all night long..."
So if you live in Idaho, you are immediatley a badass?
GMAFB.......
quote/Lip_Curl
"any part of idaho that isnt steep is a draw unit or its crawling with californians....and some of them are even starting to crawl into the steep stuff. found a couple at 8500 feet last year...they were so scared of the dark, they kept a bonfire burning all night long..."
So if you live in Idaho, you are immediatley a badass?
GMAFB.......
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Some of the best hunters I have ever met/seen in Idaho were native. But, on the other hand the worst, laziest, most whining complaining hunters I have ever met/seen in Idaho were natives. Talk about a sense of entitlement, there are a lot of ID guys that think they should be able to find a 30" buck off their quad every year. Yes their are a lot of CA/UT/WA guys there glued to their ATV seats too. I think there are 1.5 wheelers for every resident of Boise/Caldwell/Nampa.
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huntngrunt-
In all honesty you've missed the boat this year. I don't know how in shape your dad is, but at 77 I'm guessing he would have a tough time negotiating the country that any decent numbers of deer and elk here inhabit. As others said, the southern part of the state has some easier terrain, but any open units in the flat stuff won't be worth your time. Research some of the controlled units in the flatter areas and apply next spring.
In all honesty you've missed the boat this year. I don't know how in shape your dad is, but at 77 I'm guessing he would have a tough time negotiating the country that any decent numbers of deer and elk here inhabit. As others said, the southern part of the state has some easier terrain, but any open units in the flat stuff won't be worth your time. Research some of the controlled units in the flatter areas and apply next spring.
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thanks so am i able to apply for the upcoming controlled hunt draw and do you know anything about the access yes program
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I take exception to the remarks from lip_curl....."crawling with californians". You seem to have a sore spot for california hunters and then you turn around and state "am starting to look at colorado". I have a feeling the colorado locals might be just as annoyed if you show up and spoil their secret spots. I have been a property owner in Idaho since 1977 (although I live in Calif.)and have hunted every year in Idaho since 1984. I faithfully purchase non-resident Elk, Deer and Bear tags each year for mysef and two sons. Non-resident hunters by far bring more dollars per hunting day to the state and Fish & Game than resident hunters. So the next time you see a california hunter in Idaho I suggest you thank him for the financial support he brings to your state!
ps; the majority of "Idaho" resident hunters I have seen rarely get out of their trucks.
ps; the majority of "Idaho" resident hunters I have seen rarely get out of their trucks.
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You really need to read the Idaho regulations to answer your questions about the controlled hunts. You will also get some great info from the Idaho hunt planner on the IDFG website.
Access yes is ok but you really need to scout the areas before hand. Lots of times they say they hold deer/elk but might only be when the season is closed.
Hope this helps.
IB
Access yes is ok but you really need to scout the areas before hand. Lots of times they say they hold deer/elk but might only be when the season is closed.
Hope this helps.
IB
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I hunt colorado last two times in idaho the best I saw was a couple of forkies deer herd way down in the southeastern part of the state. Plus they are going to raise the price of deer tags for the non reses.
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Nice Rack wrote:
'So the next time you see a california hunter in Idaho I suggest you thank him for the financial support he brings to your state!
ps; the majority of "Idaho" resident hunters I have seen rarely get out of their trucks'
So now you are lumping all Idahoans as lazy ride around in our trucks hunters. And no not the 'majority of Idaho residents' just ride in their trucks.
Get a clue. And what Califonians are any better. Sorry, I wont thank an out of stater for money to fish and game.. even if he owns land here. Why? Do you thank me for all the work I put in with fish and game volunteering to make this state a better hunting place for you...? Never heard a thank you for it.
Every state has their azzez. Lumping all into one catagory is idiotic and doesn't help show non hunters the ethics some hunters have that live in Idaho.
'So the next time you see a california hunter in Idaho I suggest you thank him for the financial support he brings to your state!
ps; the majority of "Idaho" resident hunters I have seen rarely get out of their trucks'
So now you are lumping all Idahoans as lazy ride around in our trucks hunters. And no not the 'majority of Idaho residents' just ride in their trucks.
Get a clue. And what Califonians are any better. Sorry, I wont thank an out of stater for money to fish and game.. even if he owns land here. Why? Do you thank me for all the work I put in with fish and game volunteering to make this state a better hunting place for you...? Never heard a thank you for it.
Every state has their azzez. Lumping all into one catagory is idiotic and doesn't help show non hunters the ethics some hunters have that live in Idaho.
Buck Bull & Broncs,
WELL SAID. I live here, too and have volunteered MANY MANY hours to improve Idaho hunting.
It is true we have lots of deer and elk.....maybe even more ATVers and LOTS of out-of-state ATVers, too. Some good and some lazy hunters in both groups.
That being said,.....it's OK to be a lazy hunter as long as you obey the laws and are safe.....this is a recreation.
As for a 77-year-old hunting here: He'd better be on tough 77-year old unless he has a VERY specific place on one of the limited entry hunts. I have no doubt there are those who are able but doubt it is realistic if you've not been here to actually experience the topography.
I have twin handicapped brothers (42). I take them hunting....but they are only capable of doing it in the limited-entry (more readily accessible) hunts. They are 42 and their handicaps are not physical....our open hunts are tough. I can tell you any number of places where elk are easy to find and deer are able to be found with OTC tags. The problem is that they are located 4 to 6 MILES from the trailhead; it's uphill and no motorvehicles are allowed.
Feel free to PM me if you'd like details but what has been said about physicality cannot be overstated.
Within the shadows, go quietly.
WELL SAID. I live here, too and have volunteered MANY MANY hours to improve Idaho hunting.
It is true we have lots of deer and elk.....maybe even more ATVers and LOTS of out-of-state ATVers, too. Some good and some lazy hunters in both groups.
That being said,.....it's OK to be a lazy hunter as long as you obey the laws and are safe.....this is a recreation.
As for a 77-year-old hunting here: He'd better be on tough 77-year old unless he has a VERY specific place on one of the limited entry hunts. I have no doubt there are those who are able but doubt it is realistic if you've not been here to actually experience the topography.
I have twin handicapped brothers (42). I take them hunting....but they are only capable of doing it in the limited-entry (more readily accessible) hunts. They are 42 and their handicaps are not physical....our open hunts are tough. I can tell you any number of places where elk are easy to find and deer are able to be found with OTC tags. The problem is that they are located 4 to 6 MILES from the trailhead; it's uphill and no motorvehicles are allowed.
Feel free to PM me if you'd like details but what has been said about physicality cannot be overstated.
Within the shadows, go quietly.
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>So now you are lumping all
>Idahoans as lazy ride around
>in our trucks hunters. And
>no not the 'majority of
>Idaho residents' just ride in
>their trucks.
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No i'm not lumping all Idahoans into the majority, just the majority of the ones I have seen which is plenty over the last 25 years hunting in units 39, 27, 28, 36b, 21 and 21a.
And yes I do thank the individuals in Idaho that work to promote hunting and conservation when given the opportunity. I also help the forest service repairing culverts and cleaning up the forest after the lazy slobs (resident and non-resident alike)that leave garbage around. This Californian is better, I don't ask or expect thanks for the work I do in Idaho. I do it for the good of "all" hunters. If you are in the group of outdoorsman that I associate with then perhaps we will meet on a trail somewhere in the River Of No Return wilderness with either a shovel or a rifle in hand.
>Idahoans as lazy ride around
>in our trucks hunters. And
>no not the 'majority of
>Idaho residents' just ride in
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No i'm not lumping all Idahoans into the majority, just the majority of the ones I have seen which is plenty over the last 25 years hunting in units 39, 27, 28, 36b, 21 and 21a.
And yes I do thank the individuals in Idaho that work to promote hunting and conservation when given the opportunity. I also help the forest service repairing culverts and cleaning up the forest after the lazy slobs (resident and non-resident alike)that leave garbage around. This Californian is better, I don't ask or expect thanks for the work I do in Idaho. I do it for the good of "all" hunters. If you are in the group of outdoorsman that I associate with then perhaps we will meet on a trail somewhere in the River Of No Return wilderness with either a shovel or a rifle in hand.
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I am an Idaho native that has lived out of state for the last 20 years. I went back a few years ago and hunted a OTC unit with a buddy of mine from here in AZ. I do not think he will be going back to Idaho to hunt anytime soon. We hunted some incredible country and some very steep country. He still talks about how tough it was.
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"any part of idaho that isnt steep is a draw unit or its crawling with californians....and some of them are even starting to crawl into the steep stuff. found a couple at 8500 feet last year...they were so scared of the dark, they kept a bonfire burning all night long..."
I think that because non residents have more invested, they generally put more effort into the hunt, not all, but many do.
Old LipCurl would have a whole new respect for California if he strapped on a backpack and spent a week in one of our northern B zone units.
My brother in iaw was a smoke jumper out of Missoula Mt & fought fires throughout the northern Rockies for many years.
In his opinion the Trinity Alps of California were as rough, steep & nasty as anything he had ever tackled anywhere, it is designated wilderness and the only access is backpack or horseback.
It is one of my favorite places to hunt.
I have family in eastern Oregon.
Last time I hunted muleys there with my kid, we were amazed at all the road hunters, mostly local.
One guy had a rifle barrel sticking out the window as his buddy drove the roads, the license plate was from Alaska.
Great folks reside in every state and no place has a monopoly on azzholes.
Generalizations suck.
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I think that because non residents have more invested, they generally put more effort into the hunt, not all, but many do.
Old LipCurl would have a whole new respect for California if he strapped on a backpack and spent a week in one of our northern B zone units.
My brother in iaw was a smoke jumper out of Missoula Mt & fought fires throughout the northern Rockies for many years.
In his opinion the Trinity Alps of California were as rough, steep & nasty as anything he had ever tackled anywhere, it is designated wilderness and the only access is backpack or horseback.
It is one of my favorite places to hunt.
I have family in eastern Oregon.
Last time I hunted muleys there with my kid, we were amazed at all the road hunters, mostly local.
One guy had a rifle barrel sticking out the window as his buddy drove the roads, the license plate was from Alaska.
Great folks reside in every state and no place has a monopoly on azzholes.
Generalizations suck.
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WOW AND JUST THINK ALL I ASKED WAS IDAHO OR COLORADO SOUNDS LIKE COLORADO IS WHERE I'M GOING AND IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE IDAHO IS FULL OF SURFER DUDES ON ATV'S
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i have lived in idaho all my life and hunted one unit all my life 39 i have got a deer 7 years straight idaho is a good place to hunt you just have to due your home work
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+1 Harry
I couldnt agree more. I hunt units 39 and 43 almost every year and have packed into the sawtooths, although some of it is fairly rugged for the most part is easier than my B zone wilderness hunts. Not trying to knock Idaho, I love it there if it werent for more money to be made here in Ca. I'd live there. I would probably still hunt B zone though. Youre chance at a book animal is far better on a Ca. wilderness hunt than on an Idaho OTC tag in my opinion. I dont know where the stereo type of lazy flatland hunters comes from, Maybe someone with this mentality should come out and try a hunt. I have friends that live in Idaho so I know they dont all think this way, but my experience has been that locals from Idaho do not hunt near as hard. As stated before we have more at stake, It cost us alot of money to come over and hunt. Most of us do not pay all that money to come over and road hunt and shoot a forkie. typically we have a week to 10 days to hunt as hard as we can to bag a trophy most of us try to make the most of it.
I couldnt agree more. I hunt units 39 and 43 almost every year and have packed into the sawtooths, although some of it is fairly rugged for the most part is easier than my B zone wilderness hunts. Not trying to knock Idaho, I love it there if it werent for more money to be made here in Ca. I'd live there. I would probably still hunt B zone though. Youre chance at a book animal is far better on a Ca. wilderness hunt than on an Idaho OTC tag in my opinion. I dont know where the stereo type of lazy flatland hunters comes from, Maybe someone with this mentality should come out and try a hunt. I have friends that live in Idaho so I know they dont all think this way, but my experience has been that locals from Idaho do not hunt near as hard. As stated before we have more at stake, It cost us alot of money to come over and hunt. Most of us do not pay all that money to come over and road hunt and shoot a forkie. typically we have a week to 10 days to hunt as hard as we can to bag a trophy most of us try to make the most of it.
you all have misinterpreted my comment. im not prejudiced against californians, i dislike everyone i find in my hunting spots equally.
Non resident license fees are a vital source of funding for the ID F & G to fund the protection and management of our greatest natural resource. I just wish they'd do a better job with our mule deer herd. 20 years ago, Idaho was second only to colorado in the number of boone/crockett bucks produced by about a 3:1 margin. If you look at the last 3 years, idaho has slipped to about number 7 by at least a 5:1 margin.
No Harry, living in idaho does not automatically make you a badass. As someone else mentioned, there are hardcore SOBs and lazy b@stards from every state in the union. A lot of the people that do come here have more invested and are more committed than the locals. I run into these types in the bottom of hells canyon and in the top of the sawtooths. These are the types im even less fond of because they are the ones im actually competing with.
All opinions aside, the statistics dont lie...colorado is still producing bucket loads of booners and idaho has fallen off the map. if you are going to throw down the money for a nonres tag, i would go to colorado.
Non resident license fees are a vital source of funding for the ID F & G to fund the protection and management of our greatest natural resource. I just wish they'd do a better job with our mule deer herd. 20 years ago, Idaho was second only to colorado in the number of boone/crockett bucks produced by about a 3:1 margin. If you look at the last 3 years, idaho has slipped to about number 7 by at least a 5:1 margin.
No Harry, living in idaho does not automatically make you a badass. As someone else mentioned, there are hardcore SOBs and lazy b@stards from every state in the union. A lot of the people that do come here have more invested and are more committed than the locals. I run into these types in the bottom of hells canyon and in the top of the sawtooths. These are the types im even less fond of because they are the ones im actually competing with.
All opinions aside, the statistics dont lie...colorado is still producing bucket loads of booners and idaho has fallen off the map. if you are going to throw down the money for a nonres tag, i would go to colorado.
I've spent more than a couple of days in units 39 and 43; hunting and hiking. I live here. I've also been in the areas of northern California on hikes. (I will admit I don't know the unit designations.) The mountains and the labor involved is similar....the AREAS in CA are not as large nor as wild.
As for the probability of a book buck. I have 3 (typicals). All were on DYI OTC Idaho hunts. The one I got two years ago missed by 8 points. OUR odds are better than those in CA.
IF you want a truly big Idaho deer, 43 in not where you should be looking.
Within the shadows, go quietly.
As for the probability of a book buck. I have 3 (typicals). All were on DYI OTC Idaho hunts. The one I got two years ago missed by 8 points. OUR odds are better than those in CA.
IF you want a truly big Idaho deer, 43 in not where you should be looking.
Within the shadows, go quietly.
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I'll have my Polaski for the trails and a rifle for the wolves.
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i live on the western side of idaho & we have wolves from weiser on up. the elk hunting has gone to hell..the deer populations are even worst the buck to doe ratio is the worst i have seen in 15 years. i cant speak about the eastern side myself but have friends that hunt over there year after year & the last 4 to 5 years have been shitty!!! the sun valley area & challis country are loaded with wolves & what they dont kill there are 40 to 50 hunters after each legal bull..my eye doc hunts colrado every year they hunt blm & state land & kill elk every year!!! I would hunt colorado myself
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I personally have lived my whole life in Idaho, and have seen the quality of animals go down. And honestly I think this debate among which state hunts hard is quite funny. I was a hard core "out of state hunter hater" for quite some time. Until one day I was forced to hunt with some out of staters. They were from Oregon and pretty amazing guys and the Oregon guys are hard core hunters at least the one i hunted with. I have also hunted with some California's who are amazing guys and loved to hunt the hard stuff. And I have also hunted California and found it great guys there too. But I have also see many many Cali's who drive around and dont give a shizz what they shoot as long as it's legal and close to the road, so they can go drink beer afterwards. The state I think is the worst is Utah, but that said I have a friend who has become one of my favorite hunting buddies who is from Utah. So it all just depends, but Idaho has some real piece of junkers, who are worse than all the other out of staters. Have I shot some really nice animals yes, did I work my butt off all summer long scouting, and hunted hard yes. So with that said I would go to Colorado. You mentioned you are willing to pay a trespass fee. You can get access to lots of land in colorado if you want to pay a trespass fee. And most of those areas hold some amazing animals. Also they would probably be much easier hunting for your father.
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The reason you'll see a lot of lazy road hunters in Idaho is because 30 years ago that is all the more effort it took to get a trophy animal. I guess old habits die hard. Even today I'll hear stories of the occasional smoker buck being killed from the road. Those stories make me sick to my stomach.
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I am responding to the californians crawling all over and the resident californian guys who says that the majority of "idaho resident hunters getting out of their trucks". Now come on man, lets get real here. I know a ton of guys who hunt their butts off and have a hard time even finding a 4 point buck. It seems to me that you think that Idaho needs the nonresidents money. That is the biggest problem with Idaho! Its the fish and game managing the nonresidents for revenue over managing for whats best for the species.
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HEY! We just opened a shop in Idaho and Colorado . . . I think I can help your group of 4-6 hunters in either state with good spots to hunt as well as cheaper alternatives to make your hunt successful. Here is the website
hunthardcore.com
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