Utah Govenors Tag

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I just got some pics of the buck Mossback guided for the govenors tag. Looks like "doc" did it again. I personally am glad he's putting this money in the system that goes to deer management.

I can't find the pics on the Mossback website but figure I'm probably just assisting with their marketing by posting them properly attributed. If this buck is old news and has already been posted I apologize in advance.

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If I'm not mistaken the guy with the beard is Dr Mortenson who frequently buys these govenors tags.
 
Yep - that is one great buck. From the color of the sand, it looks to be somewhere in Southern Utah. Could be the Pauns for sure.


UTROY
Proverbs 21:19 (why I hunt!)
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-02-09 AT 04:59PM (MST)[p]That thing has BIG frame and good extras. I'd like to see more pics so we can see all them points.... From pic alone I'd say mid to upper 240's what a toad. That mass is decieving in a good way
 
I think the hunter is Robert Kay from Vernal - may be wrong but that is him on the right holding the horn.
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-02-09 AT 06:36PM (MST)[p]Robert Kay is the one who killed this buck and he is on the far right in front. Nice buck Robert that is a pig. He is a 11x8 36.5 inch out side spread.
 
Wow incredible buck! Did the buck really ever have a chance with all those eyes constantly on it? What was the hunt like? People pay big bucks for someone else to hunt a deer for them--how sad....Don't get me wrong, it's an incredible deer; it just seems more and more like the commercialization of hunting is taking something away from the sport, or am I way off?
 
Well I for one think your WAY OFF! How many pics of Big Bucks or Big Bulls do we see with about 8 to 10 Family members or "SPOTTERS" with them huh? Just cause some guys decide to hire a guide to go after an animal they shouldnt have anything taken away from the hunt!! Congrates to the hunter!!! What a PIG!!!
 
Great buck! but I have a lot more respect for the guy that can go do it on his own. Without spending $100,000.00 on guide fees and tags but thats my 2 cents, to each there own. We are all still hunters at the end of the day. We all still put our boots on 1 at a time but some can afford to pay someone to tie them for us.
 
That is a heck of a buck but I wouldn't consider that type of hunt an accomplishment.
 
That buck is awesome!!
Since opinions are like A**holes, I guess I'll throw mine in as well. I doubt that guy would ever have found a buck like that by himself. He may not have busted his butt in the hills looking for this buck, but I bet he busted his butt to become succesful enough to afford that tag. If he dumped $250k into the system, plus provided honest work to all those guys in photo, I find it hard to fault him. Plus he only gets to shoot 1 buck. If I could afford it, I would reward myself the same way.
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-03-09 AT 06:49AM (MST)[p]<<<That thing has BIG frame and good extras. I'd like to see more pics so we can see all them points.... From pic alone I'd say mid to upper 240's what a toad. That mass is decieving in a good way >>>>>

My guess would be 225---230 max
 
That is a very nice buck, especially off the Pauns, I don't see 240 though. I doubt the extras would go much over 20, so even if his frame was 210, he'd barely break 230. Not that that makes it a dink. I wouldn't pass that buck up on any hunt in any state.

Yelum
 
Since the money goes to the conservation of the species and habitat, these tags are beneficial. So long as everybody is behaving himself from a legal standpoint. Plus, we get to see some huge bucks when they hit the ground. I think we all know that this is not the same as going out alone with a tag you've drawn and killing a monster. How you hunt is a personal choice. If I was a bajillinaire, I'd like to think I would hunt in much the same way as I do now, only a hell of a lot more!
 
Awesome buck. I think the Governors Tag is a GREAT thing and it benefits all of the hunters and wildlife in Utah!! Way to Go!!
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-03-09 AT 01:57PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Dec-03-09 AT 01:56?PM (MST)

Well it seams as if some of you have the real scope on this fine looking deer.

So was it Doc or Robert that killed it?
Was it on the henery or the pauns.?
Real score?

Its not even posted on massback.com yet.

Lets get the realy story.
 
>there is no such thing as
>a buck worth 250,000 bucks
>

uhhh... apparently that one is! Somethings only worth what somebody is willing to pay... right?
 
ha ha jealous rowdyblueman ill bet the hunter had the time of his life during that hunt
 
"The rich...who are content to buy what they have not the skill to get by their own exertions, these are the real enemies of game." Theodore Roosevelt
 
Got a text from one of Mossbacks guides saying it was taken on the Henries.
 
Well I heard it was a Sitka killed in Alaska. LOL

Seriously, Thats a great buck and congrats to the hunter
 
i agree with Chubbytuna! if you have put in the time to become successful and make enough money to pay that much for a tag! heres to you! i know i dont but if i did! you would see my picture just as you do thiers! The money that is put front for those tags has alot of benefits, and ya cant put a price on a good time! thats for sure!
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-04-09 AT 08:44PM (MST)[p]I can't believe so many people complain about people putting money back into our hills! I have never met this guy that killed this buck but I wish I could! So I could shake his hand and say thanks for helping with our deer.

Also the deer was taken on the open general unit in southern utah. And they got more live pictures on MuleyCrazy
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-04-09 AT 08:45PM (MST)[p]Awesome I love seeing the live pics of these monster bucks.



Jake H. SHED OR DEAD IT DONT MATTER TO ME!!!
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I'm all for people who spend the big bucks to help the mule deer. it does benefit everyone. especially the mule deer.
 
Too bad if it is a southern region deer. But good for the Paunsagaunt hunters next year because there is a bigger one than that out there that made it throught the season!!!
 
What kind of things does UT Fish and Game do with the money for from these tags? Just curious as to how and where they are spending this money. I bet the majority of it goes to there xmas party and bonuses instead of to the deer and elk herds.
 
It goes into the state general fund meaning it is spent everywhere but wildlife conservation. people have got to start paying attentino to how the states budgets are set up. Just because someone spent 250k on a tag does not mean it went to the wildlife!! The budget is the budget, and it NEVER increases in a year because they sold a tag!!
 
Well greysriver go to the state budget and ask them how much money they allocate to habitat projects each year its more than you think. Don't be a hater when you don't know how much they really spend on deer habitat. Each year I do hundreds of thousands of dollars of work for the DOW on projects that increase habitat. There budget does increase with tag sales because we have got projects increased because they got more money than they thought they would get.
JC
Colorado Hunting Consultants LLC
www.cohunthelp.com
 
Awesome buck guys!

Congrats to the hunter!

Congrats to Doyle and his crew! That's another STUD of a buck!

Great Job!

Dustin
 
blderbuck, to answer your question, yeah, you're way off. People would do well to worry about their own lives, and not denigrate others who have the ability to do what they themselves cannot. Who cares how many people hunted this buck? It goes on all the time, especially in Utah, for many people who draw tags, but we only seem to see people questioning the ethics of it when the hunter is a guided hunter; and especially if he's a Mossback guided hunter.

The people who purchase governor's or any other auction tags are doing so to donate to game departments, and they generally make very big donations that benefit wildlife management, and every other hunter by extension. Yeah, they get to hunt a longer season than the rest of us, and they generally take bigger animals but that didn't deprive you of any opportunity. The biggest thing that deprives anyone of an opportunity these days is the difficulty of drawing a tag where these caliber of animals exist, not the guy who can afford to write a big check to get to hunt there.
 
I am not arguing over the amount of original dollars that was given, (to most people those numbers are big). But don't confuse yourself when you think the budget grows during the year because they sold a high dollar tag! The only way the budget raises from year to year is if the tag sales go up thus the reason why areas such as the book cliffs get their tag numbers increased every year. Once the budget is set, it is set until the next year. You are NOT correct in your statement that the budget raises inside of one year, you need to research for yourself.
 
I am not arguing over the initial dollars budgeted each year, those numbers look big to most every day guys. And i am not saying it doen't go up every year. Becaue they base next years budget on this years lisence sales so that answers the question of why they continue to raise permit numbers right? I am saying that the budget does not raise inside the year just because someone bought a high dollar tag. I really don't care how many projects that you have been a part of that they said "oh we got more money than we thought". The fact is the budget is set every year and that is that.
 
I'm not sure where the "experts" get there info, but damn there sure is a lot of BS that flies around on this site by people supposedly in the "know."

Here is the link to the Utah Administrative Rule (yes there are rules, and they are not made by MMers) stating just how conservation and sportsmen permits funds are used:

http://wildlife.utah.gov/rules/R657-41.php

Don't believe everything you read.
 
>It goes into the state general
>fund meaning it is spent
>everywhere but wildlife conservation.
>people have got to start
>paying attentino to how the
>states budgets are set up.
>Just because someone spent 250k
>on a tag does not
>mean it went to the
>wildlife!! The budget is
>the budget, and it NEVER
>increases in a year because
>they sold a tag!!

Wrong.
 
Well,I agree that the money that is raised goes into the managemnt for that species, but all they do is take that EXACT amount back out of the original yearly budget. Beleive it or not, the state has a way of manueveing moneys around to make you and everyone else beleive that more money is going into wildlife conservation. It is just not true, the money is put into that wildlife specie, and then that amount is pulled from the original years budget, and that is a fact my friend. Of course they are not going to write this in the proclomation, and you said it yourself, "don't believe everything you read". It is not what you suspect or want it to be.
 
It looks like gd mossback, gets er done again. Congrats to shooter, Doyle and the boys!
 
>It looks like gd mossback, gets
>er done again. Congrats
>to shooter, Doyle and the
>boys!


WOW
 
Hey Jazz on another tread you're bitching about how some outfitter/guides aren't living up to your standards, here's an outfitter with guides that do it on a regular basis, and thats all you can say! Seams to me this is the man you may want to talk to. I'm sure he could set you up on a 1on1 or 1on2 so it doesn't feel like a gang bang!
 
Actually this comment was an error. I thought I was resonding to a different thread.

This is a great buck and while I have not spoken to Doyle personally I have with others and I have heard nothing but good comments.

I do believe there is quite a difference between a Governor's tag and a regular LO or outfitter tag in cost and time to hunt. Either are ok as is DIY but they are not comparable overall. In general though I support these tags for the $'s they produce if the $'s are used appropriately and all hunting is legal.

Jazz
 

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