Mexico Muley Hunts Unsafe?

HunterHarry

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How bad are things in the Hermasillo area?
I heard thet they were issuing this very same alert....


El Informador (Guadalajara, Jalisco) 7/1/10

Area alert issued

The U.S. Consulate in Guadalajara, Jalisco, has issued an alert to U.S. citizens who reside or plan to visit in the area. The alert is due to the insecurity in Guadalajara?s metro area, and states that Mexican officials recently commented that ?the police are unable to combat organized crime effectively, and the drug cartels? violence can affect innocent civilians.? As an example, the alert cites a shootout on a local highway on June 24 between police and hired killers. The consulate warns that ?the climate of security in the consular district continues to deteriorate.? The consulate?s area covers the states of Jalisco, Aguascalientes, Colima and Nayarit.
 
I remember the recent murder of the outfitter down there.
Looks like things are pretty shaky.
Wow.

I found the alert.

Travel warning between Nogales and Hermosillo
Posted: May 26, 2010 11:13 AM PDT
Updated: May 26, 2010 12:58 PM PDT
Reporter: Sheryl Kornman

HERMOSILLO, Mexico (KGUN9-TV) - Travelers between Nogales and Hermosillo are being warned by the U.S Consulate General in Hermosillo to travel that highway only in the daytime.

A "Warden Message" issued on May 21 notes that a U.S. citizen living in Sonora was found murdered earlier this month. He apparently had been driving on the highway, Highway 15.

U.S. Consular workers are required to travel in armored vehicles on that highway and only during daylight hours. Highway 15 is the major route for U.S. travelers driving from Nogales through Hermosillo to Guaymas, to fishing and snorkeling vacation sites in Kino Bay.

The murder of the American was disclosed in an earlier travel warning that was issued May 11:

"This Warden Message is issued to encourage U.S. citizens to use extreme caution when traveling on Mexican Federal Highway 15 between Hermosillo and Nogales. A U.S. citizen disappeared early on May 3rd departing from his residence in Benjamin Hill, Sonora.

His vehicle was found later that day in Santa Ana, and his remains were recovered May 8. He had been murdered.

Based on further investigation, a general increased threat to travelers on the highway between Hermosillo and Nogales continues to exist.

U.S. Consulates Nogales and Hermosillo have requested that their employees defer travel on Highway 15 between Hermosillo and Nogales until further notice. Additional information will be released as it is received.

U.S. citizens traveling through northern Mexico should exercise caution. Review of recent violence indicates that although criminal acts can occur unexpectedly at any time of day, overall it is safer to travel during the morning and early afternoon hours."

The May 21 "Warden Message" notes that consular officials can now travel on Highway 15, but "only in armored vehicles when they are on official business."

"This Warden Message is issued to encourage U.S. citizens to use extreme caution when traveling on Mexican Federal Highway 15 between Hermosillo and Nogales. It is an update of the warden message issued on May 11, 2010.

"While a general increased threat to travelers on the highway between Hermosillo and Nogales continues to exist, U.S. consulate employees are permitted once again to travel on Highway 15. When traveling for work purposes, employees must use an armored vehicle. For personal travel, it is recommended employees travel with others, so that at least two vehicles are traveling together at a time. Also, employees' travel along the highway is restricted to daylight hours.

U.S. citizens traveling through northern Mexico should exercise caution. Review of recent violence indicates that although criminal acts can occur unexpectedly at any time of day, overall it is safer to travel during the morning and early afternoon hours. American citizens are advised to refer to guidance in the Department of State's most recent Travel Warning for Mexico located on the internet at http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_4755.html and Country Specific Information for Mexico, which can be found at http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_970.html for additional information regarding the current security situation in the country. U.S. citizens living or traveling abroad are encouraged to register with the nearest U.S. Embassy or consulate through the State Department's travel registration website http://travel.state.gov/ibrs/ui.

For any emergencies involving U.S. citizens in Mexico, please contact the U.S. Embassy or the closest U.S. Consulate.

U.S. citizens in Hermosillo's consular district may contact the American Citizens Services (ACS) Unit at the U.S. Consulate General, located at Monterrey 141 Poniente, Col. Esqueda, Hermosillo, Sonora, Mexico; telephone 662 289 3500; after hours emergency telephone 044 662 256 0741; web page: http://hermosillo.usconsulate.gov; ACS Unit fax 662 217 2571; email: [email protected].

U.S. citizens in Nogales' consular district may contact the American Citizens Services (ACS) Unit at the U.S. Consulate, located on Calle San Jose (S/N), Col. Los Alamos, Nogales, Sonora, Mexico; telephone 011 +52 (631) 311-8150; after hours emergency telephone 011 +52 1 (631) 318-0723; web page: http://nogales.usconsulate.gov/; ACS Unit fax 011 +52 (631) 313-4652; email: [email protected]"
 
Weenies!

If you want to hunt down there this fall....do it!

I done the math. By the time season opens in Mexico, all those trouble making, slimeball, dirtbags will have migrated into Arizona and California.

A hunting trip in Mexico will be safer than a shopping trip to Walmart in Phoenix.
 
Grisly discovery in Nogales, Sonora: 7 murder victims

Published Tuesday, June 1, 2010 10:43 AM CDT

Seven people were found shot to death outside Nogales, Sonora, some stripped of their clothes and showing signs of torture, on what one local paper called ?the bloodiest day of the year? for the border city.

The bodies were discovered on the morning of May 27 at a ranch approximately 6 miles from the city center, according to reports in Nuevo Dia, El Imparcial and El Diaro de Sonora that cited official sources and eyewitness accounts.

The reports said family members of two ranch hands who had been kidnapped Tuesday went looking for the men and found them in a wooded area along with two other men, all of whom had been shot and tortured.
 
Think it safe That would be a huge Hell No, it not safe, What worse it just a matter of time and it wil be on both sides of the border. It going to get bad I mean really bad before it gets the type of response that is needed for the border to be safe on this side. On the Mexico side I don't think it will ever be a safe place again for small groups to travel in it, Just large groups will be safe to a certain degree. IMO


"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
With all the problems in Mexico, I find it hard to understand why someone would not just buy a top end Colorado hunt???
 
I had a Mexico Dove hunt booked with Rancho Caracol and I just got a email and phone call a few days ago that they were canceling hunts this fall due to violence on the border. We will see what happens. I dont have a problem going down there. Just make sure I have a case of shells and a good shotgun with no plug in it in the van when they pick me up at the airport. I would be willing to bet my odds of making it to the ranch would be pretty good. I wonder if I would have to pay extra for that? :)
 
AK-47 VS Shotgun Not a good one IMO.
10-12 against one still not a good one.
There is a ranch my buddy goes just across the border east of TJ and they told him not come down this last season for quail year because even the ranch hands have been held up by bandits armed with AK'S.


"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
thats not even funny! would you really be willing to risk your life or the life of others for a dove hunt?? I have a family to care for! i was down there this last january and we went in and out without a problem. but that was six months ago and only one or two reports of kidnapping and killings. but now its all over the place! in only six months! count me out!!!
 
Easy guys I am being sarcastic (that explains the smiley face). I would not put myself in Jeopardy for a damned old stinkin' ass dove.
 
Cj- You think you can retort with something as weak as "I put a smiley face" and think everything will be ok? Look, pal....I've been in this game a long time, son! I used to buy into the whole cute, smiley face thing. But, no more. That icon is a tool....not a punchline. How dare you! The arrogance...

Just kidding:)

Steve
 
You could not pay me to go to Mexico right now. If you spend any time reading the stories online or watching the news and still go hunting down there you need your head examined or a good life insurance policy. Count me out....but I bet the hunts get cheap this year!
 
look on the brite side. Its a once in a lifetime hunt we could all afford.
 
Harry

I wouldn't recomend it.. Its a hell-hole over there. And it's onl getting worse by the day. My days of mulitple trips reeling in sailfish and dorados down just south of Hermosillo are done.. I won't step foot back. Not worth it.

As like someone else said, if it's muleys you're after, go buy a good CO landowner tag and shoot a 200"er up there. No sleeping with one eye open either!

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