200?

Murphy

Active Member
Messages
186
I know they're not the best pictures but will this buck go 200? When I compare him to a 186 3x4 I have he looks a lot stronger.

7836imgp1392.jpg


1160imgp1395.jpg


4762imgp1397.jpg
 
I think it's possible. Very long tines and symmetrical. His inside spread will be short a couple inches, but he could still make it.
 
Gross I would say knocking on the door. Let me know where he is and I will let you measure him. :^) Ron
 
HooooWeeee that's a nice buck. Hard to tell but his main beams and inside spread might hurt, but he'll be dang close.
 
He's a nice buck but I don't see anywhere close to 200", I'd give him 185-190 maybe. I shot a buck that scored 198" and he dwarfs that buck.
 
Cant see his mass verry good but looks great in all other areas. I believe you only get the longest main beam for a spread, so who cares how wide he is.
 
To say that this buck could be a 200" buck is fine with me. I'd bet good money that's he's healthy over 190".

That buck is a Toad Typical!!!

Joey
 
Marley, just because you have the big Henries hunt this year, which is totally cool by the way, keep your head inside your hat bud. You ain't the end all know all that you been coming off lately if you can't see that this buck is a total stud typical and it could just be that you, are the one not seeing this buck right!!

Is that possible? I didn't think so...

Joey
 
LAST EDITED ON Jul-28-10 AT 03:04AM (MST)[p]Marley a friend of mine was archery hunting the buck in the picture below in '08. Some other guys he met ended up killing him in muzzleloader season and the buck supposedly went 196" and change. This buck reminds me of that one.

08deer1.jpg


08deer2.jpg
 
Well, I'll go out on the limb as well.....I measure quite a few bucks each and every year.....and I realize photos are tough to judge at times.......but honestly, you're looking at a buck that will net high enough to make the all-time B&C minimum IMO.

BOHNTR )))---------->
 
He has great length and a good spread appears to have enough mass but that can be deceiving with velvet but I also took pics of a buck once on the skyline that was very massive and the pics didn't show the mass with the bright sky behind him washing the antlers out a bit. I would definitely give him all-time book minimum but although he might push 200 I don't think he quite has it IMO.

Having said that he is a FOR SURE SHOOTER on any hunt in my opinion, typicals like that are few and far between and score isn't everything some bucks just have curb appeal snd this is one of em.

Shoot him and measure and prove the doubters wrong!

Bill
 
lets just do the math.....and we'll be generous


mb:24
g1: 1 (cant see one, but remember we are being generous)
g2: 18
g3: 10
g4: 12
= 65 inches
X2 (we'll say he's super symetrical.

= 130 inches
+26 spread 9once again... generous)
= 156 inches

that leaves us looking for 44 inches of mass.... i dont think this guy is going any where near 200...


please, inform me of any mistake in my off hand scoring sitting in my "unders" in my livingroom...
 
I think he is close to 200"
Here are some crappy pics of my buck last year that has a similiar frame.
My deers frame officially grossed 191 with no eyeguards and a weak g4 on his right side. I think the deer you are looking at is about the height and width but he has better g4's. If he has some eyeguards I think he is pushing 200" gross

Image11.jpg

Image7.jpg

Image4.jpg

Image1.jpg
 
Crap, that is the same deer I have been seeing - everynight when I go to bed. I feel lucky to have seen a photo of him on an internet site much less being the one taking the photos in person. Have fun watching that deer and I hope you have a tag to after him this fall.
 
This buck is a great comparison buck for the original in this thread...

I agree with a few of teh coments further up, this buck will be pushing that magical 200" mark, but I think he's literally going to come up about 4" or 5" short... Mass is the most difficult to determine from distance due to lighting. He looks to me like his length is about 68" per side, plus, 24" spread credit is 160". With an average of 4" per measurement on mass, he'd go 192" and I think he will be a bit more than that on mass...

Stick him, Smoke him, Blast him... For me, any unit, anyhunt. He's about a beautiful a typical as you will ever find...

"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 
That is a toad typical and defiantly over 190. Here is a buck that is somewhat similar that I had the opportunity to get my greedy little hands on when my friend was scoring it. This was by far the most symmetrical buck I have ever seen, he netted 194 5/8 and grossed 195 4/8 (that's 7/8" in D's). I can see some differences in the buck you are looking at though:

-the G2's on this buck are 19-4/8", I can't see them being that long on the buck pictured.
-the Mainbeams are longer than the buck in your pics.
-the inside spread credit will be bigger on this buck than the one in your pics. (this buck was 29" outside

I wouldn't hesitate to smoke that typical any day of the week. Sometimes score is our worst enemy.

3712456209b45e6de6cc.jpg

6527456209d35f44d196.jpg

2281456209765ce9cd35.jpg

6301456209985dcc5d28.jpg
 
Sage....I'm not trying to come across as the know all. I don't see where having a Henries tag has anything to do with what my OPINION of this buck has to do with anything. It's a fuzzy picture on a skyline. He is a STUD buck and I would put him on the ground in any unit (except the Henry's). The only reason I am putting him around 190 is for the lack of mass, G1's, and a LITTLE short on the main beams for him to hit the 200". If we had a better picture, I might change my mind. This is completely just an opinion and I'm not trying to come across as a jerk. Sorry if it came across that way.

And for the one who asked here is my buck. Official score 198 7/8.

8488buck2.jpg
 
He looks relly big to me! I don't know if he'll go 200 gross, but I would say really close if not.

Brian Latturner
MonsterMuleys.com
 
Absolute TOAD! I thinkt he second pic shows a relatively short main beam and inside spread which I think will keep him below the magical mark. Mass is average as well so I venture low 190s gross.

Just a guess.

I'm Jealous man!
 
where's Mike Eastman when you need him? He's a dandy Buck, I'd love to hunt him or even just see him. I think a shade under 200 but not much.
 
I think alot of people get to set on what a deer scores. Honestly how many people would pass that buck up. And if you say you would i think your full of %$*@. Great buck let the air out of him
 
Just fun to guess the score. I would guess most are like me, like to guess, but in the end, who cares! He's big enough!!!

Brian Latturner
MonsterMuleys.com
 
I'd guess 194. He is a stud for sure. Looks like the mass and inside spread will keep him under 200. Hope we all get to find out.
 
Well after you kill that big one let me come and kill the smaller one in the pic? Well good luck with the hunt I guess there is only one way to find out for sure. Put him down.
 
Nice buck, IMO, not 200". Usually need some extra's, or a real special typical to go over 200.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jul-29-10 AT 00:10AM (MST)[p]I keep looking back at the three original pic's of this buck and to me, he just gets bigger.

To me, i'm seeing a buck that looks narrow but in reality is near 30" wide. His extraordinary height, his rack is several inches taller than his body thickness, makes him look not to wide but he's 3-4" outside his ears. So, if you'll agree that he's near 30" outside, look back at the pic's and then figure how tall he is? I'm seeing a freaking huge framed buck, great MB's, 22" G-2's, and 13-14" 3's and 4's.

Maybe he's not all that, maybe, but when most respected and official B&C scorer, BOHNTR, says stuff like;

"...but honestly, you're looking at a buck that will "NET" high enough to make the all-time B&C minimum IMO."

emphasis and my quotes on the "NET". Do any of you ever remember him making a statement like that? I know that i haven't see it before...

i gotta go along and say it's ok with me if someone wants to say that this might be a gross 200" buck. I think he's a "no doubt about it" shooter buck, unless a guy is dead set on a huge non-typical, anywhere on Earth!

Joey
 
He is big he is tall and he will probably break 190 but he is not pushing 30 inc h spread IMO and inside spread, main beams and mass are where he comes up short for 200".

Having said that who cares shoot him anywhere!

Bill
 
LAST EDITED ON Jul-29-10 AT 08:51AM (MST)[p]sageadvice, I think you nailed it. Tall bucks can be incredible deceiving. Some people are saying this deer has short main beams but they might not realized how much length this deer has between the base and the g2. Everyone seems to look at how long the beam is past the g2 when that is only have the story.

Comparing it to my buck on post #19; he doesn't look wide but he's 33 inches wide. And his beams don't look huge but they are 26". I think the same thing goes for this buck; he is going to have better beams and be wider than you might intially think, because you are so distracted by his height.
He's 200"....go kill him.
 
Here are some pics of two bucks that Greg Krogh?s clients killed last year that have over 200? frames. I have video of the droptine buck and he looked absolutely immense on the hoof. Compare the live photo of the OP buck with the live photo of Krogh?s clients buck. I'm not saying that the buck in the OP photo isn't a huge 190?s class buck, but I'm having a hard time getting him over 200. I would whack that buck in a heartbeat.

4080200_typ2.jpg


4308200_typ.jpg


6771200_typ3.jpg
 
I'd put him in the low 190's, heck of a buck and I wouldn't even think twice about putting him down given the opportunity. Like it was said previously, sometimes score is our own worst enemy.
 
I agree that being obsessed with score leads to spoiled hunts for many people. If you went into any unit with expections of killing a beautiful symmetrical typical with deep forks you would be extremely pumped to take a buck of this caliber. But.....if you went into the hunt hell bent on killing a 200" buck and didn't care what he looked like to get that score I feel that you would be disappointed when you put a tape on this buck. I still think he would score around 190". Kill him and we will see I guess. I would have no problem admitting I was wrong, I just want to see a picture of him on the ground and a big smile dangling over him. Anyone that wouldn't be pleased with that buck after the kill is down right sick in the head!
 
shoot him and lets find out! defienelty be crazy to pass that buck on any but the best units
 
Honestly, looking closely at the different dimensions of the originally posted buck, I'd say he has everything this 195 4/8" buck has and maybe more...
The original bucks G2's are longer than this buck's... Everything else looks seriously identical to me... Most are monsters... I'd take either of them, anywhere, anytime, with any tag... I love typicals about a Bagillion times more than non-typicals...


"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 
Bang, get the tape he Over 190 Add in the wow factor and he over 200. GREAT LOOKING BUCK ONE OF THE BEST I HAVE SEEN ON HERE.


"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
He should score well if for no other reason than the deep symetrical forks. 200 easy! I would shoot him anytime.

Eel
 
Murphy, this buck is as close to 200 as you can get if he's not an inch over, it'll come down to his mass, he has great lenght on beams if you get 18-19" of mass it will put him over the top, what a smoker typical put him down!
nmbighorn
 
LAST EDITED ON Jul-31-10 AT 11:00PM (MST)[p]he is truly a monster muley 195 or 205 who cares he is a smoker in my books.
 
i agree with sage. that is not a narrow racked buck! i bet 28"-29". he is well past his ears. also, he does have eyeguards....look close like ron said.
 
Wow. There are some GREAT bucks in this thread. Thanks to all for posting. I LOVE big typicals, and I am in love with that buck. Got to be real real close to 200.
 

Click-a-Pic ... Details & Bigger Photos
Back
Top Bottom