Buck to Doe Ratio

[cannonball]

Buck to doe ratio and how many units we need gets to be quite tiring with the decline of our deer herd when we are missing the obvious.

I like Don Peays quote: "The SFW emphasis at the Baord is to fix the deer herd, until that is done, neither option really matters. As byron Bateman said, it is simply re-arranging the chairs on the deck of teh Titanic".

What we should be concentrating on is good counts from the DWR, not a flawed model that is riduculous and shown to be so.

When a herd is say 10% below objective increase the cougar and bear permits, 20% open the area up to cougar and/or bear hunting to anyone who wants a license. Encourage coyote hunting with a permit to that person who can show proof of the most coyote kills. Or some other means of reward.

What I am getting at is buck to doe ratio is not going to mean much if the doe's keep depleting.

All that I can say is that the DWR's model of wildlife counts is not working. Any sportsmen that has an eye and gets in the mountains much can see that.

 

[dillon]

I thought the Titanic saying was really funny. I agree that predation is killing off a lot of deer. I am getting a .243 to go coyote hunting with this winter, to do my part.

 

[slcmuley]

I was able to hunt some private land this season on the North Slope. I was able to spend 16 days afield during the month of October.
I witnessed buck/doe ratios around 10%. I saw a herd of over 100 deer with only 6 bucks and only 1 was 3+ yrs old.
Typically I would see small bucks with lots of does. Im not sure what the problem was in the area (poaching,lions)???
I plan to re visit the area next year, with all the smaller bucks this year I would hope to see some 2 yr old bucks next year.
Don't get me wrong I did see 3 larger bucks, during the elk hunt, but they were no where to be found a week later.But hey that's hunting right.

What do you guys think the ratio should be on big buck/little buck ratios???