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This is a buck my uncle shot with my ole man on the co 3rd season. The pics do not do this deer justice. I had a quick ? for all u score guys out there. I know nets are for fish but when u have 6 inches of exta points on one side do u have to deduct the same amount from the other side even though they r nt points. The main frame only has about 2 1/2 inches off of being perfect. Now he had about 6inches of extra points 5inches on one side and 1 inch on the other. Do u just take the extras away or becuase they r not even extras u have to deduct that much from the other side 2. I have scored quite a few deer just never really scored one with a few extras.

The deer is 28 wide and is the tallest buck i have ever put my hands on. He is 24 stright up and if u measure the curve of the antler from base to top in back he goes over 31 inches on both sides. Main beams r 24 1/2 on both sides. his back points from main beam r over 22 inches on both sides.His fronts r not the greatest but the backs r huge. I know he will make the all time B&C book just wondering how to net him to see how far he will go in the book. When i get some good field pics i will post them up. His gross is 210. I hate to even put a score up becuse there will always be somebody out there that will tell u r full of crap.
 
Beautiful buck... He must have a gigantic body! If he is as big as you describe, that ol boy must be a fatty. How much did he weigh?
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-17-10 AT 11:02AM (MST)[p]i dont know what he weighed in at. My ole man has shot over 100 mule deer and some huge ones back in the 70s in co and he said that was the biggest bodied deer he has seen in 20 plus years. The head was freaking huge on it. I guess the taxi guy said 26 inch neck. There r a few guys on here that know who i am and know i am not full of crap.
 
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>This is a buck my uncle
>shot with my ole man
>on the co 3rd season.
>The pics do not do
>this deer justice. I had
>a quick ? for all
>u score guys out there.
>I know nets are for
>fish but when u have
>6 inches of exta points
>on one side do u
>have to deduct the same
>amount from the other side
>even though they r nt
>points. The main frame only
>has about 2 1/2 inches
>off of being perfect. Now
>he had about 6inches of
>extra points 5inches on one
>side and 1 inch on
>the other. Do u just
>take the extras away or
>becuase they r not even
>extras u have to deduct
>that much from the other
>side 2. I have scored
>quite a few deer just
>never really scored one with
>a few extras.
>
>The deer is 28 wide and
>is the tallest buck i
>have ever put my hands
>on. He is 24 stright
>up and if u measure
>the curve of the antler
>from base to top in
>back he goes over 31
>inches on both sides. Main
>beams r 24 1/2 on
>both sides. his back points
>from main beam r
>over 22 inches on both
>sides.His fronts r not the
>greatest but the backs r
>huge. I know he will
>make the all time B&C
>book just wondering how to
>net him to see how
>far he will go in
>the book. When i get
>some good field pics i
>will post them up. His
>gross is 210. I hate
>to even put a score
>up becuse there will always
>be somebody out there that
>will tell u r full
>of crap.

sorry dont see 210
dont see 22" g2s
i dont see only 2.5" of deduct
hell of a buck but dont see it... maybe more pics will help.
 
To address your score questions........To score him as a typical, all of the extras and his main frame deductions have to be subtracted from the total gross score. If his gross score is 210" and you subtract 7 inches of extras and 2.5" of main frame deductions you probably will make the all time B&C. If you score him as a nontypical you leave the extras but still subtract the main frame deductions. I don't like the scoring system but what do you do.

My buck this year grossed around 231. He had 27 inches of extras and 7 inches in MF deductions. So...231 minus 7, and he misses nontypical book. 204" mainframe minus 27 inches in extras and he doesn't make typical. Crazy that one can shoot a buck of that caliber and not make book. Net sucks...if he grew it, give him credit for it, I think.

Either ways your dad smoked a stud buck and tell him congrats!! Gotta love the noggin on that thing!
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-17-10 AT 11:18AM (MST)[p]Heres a typ muley score sheet. You only subtract the extras once. Figure out the bucks gross typical frame, then deduct the total differences and total inches of extras for the net score. For a typical muleys gross score you do not add in the extras.


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I don't see 210. Having a hard time seeing 200. Still a nice looking buck and congrats to the hunter.
 
Remember that you have to deduct the differences in each point, not just the differences from one side to the other. One side could equal the other side, but he could still have 10 inches of deductions...

Those G3s really push him up there as well. If the G2s are really both 22 inches he probably does go over 200 as you stated. The big question is if the right antler has the same depth to those forks as the left antler. If it does I think it will book.

210 minus 8.5 = 201.5 Net according to your statement. My guess is he has a few more deductions than 2.5 inches and his backs are closer to 19. If I had to throw a net score at him I would guess around 192 or so, but I have no problem being wrong!

Congrats to the hunter, that is a true trophy, who cares what he scores!
 
I see now how to come up with the net. Yea he will probbly miss the 195 net. I just saw field pics a few mins ago and i wish i would have never posted this pic. It really does nothing for him in showing how tall this buck really is. He is having pics made today and i will scan one in and post. It does not even look like the same deer. I really did not know u had to deduct the nt points as well as not count them. Thats a huge swing in score. still a bomber buck. For all the guys that think im wrong on score wait to pass judgement untill i post better pics.
 
>I see now how to come
>up with the net. Yea
>he will probbly miss the
>195 net. I just saw
>field pics a few mins
>ago and i wish i
>would have never posted this
>pic. It really does nothing
>for him in showing how
>tall this buck really is.
>He is having pics made
>today and i will scan
>one in and post. It
>does not even look like
>the same deer. I really
>did not know u had
>to deduct the nt points
>as well as not count
>them. Thats a huge swing
>in score. still a bomber
>buck. For all the guys
>that think im wrong on
>score wait to pass judgement
>untill i post better pics.
>
Arron, I think everyone agrees with its a boomer of a buck, just tring to help you understand pictures and score says two different things. If its a book typical that's a statement which we all dream of. Just don't be let down if it don't book.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-17-10 AT 12:41PM (MST)[p]Congrats to your uncle, I will reserve my comments on the bucks score until I see other pics.

Think of it this way when it comes to the extra points: If you added the extras to the buck?s gross frame and then subtracted the same extras from the score they would negate each other, as if they weren't there. They wouldn't be counted against the bucks score in that case.

So in this case if this bucks frame; 204? gross and he has 6? of extras.
204 + 6 = 210
210 - (6 + 2.5) = 201.5
with this formula you wouldn't be deducting any of the extras from the typical frame. It would be as if he didn't grow the extras at all.

What you would do is 204 ? (6+2.5) = 195.5 this would give you the net typical score.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-17-10 AT 12:45PM (MST)[p]>Congrats to your uncle, I will
>reserve my comments on the
>bucks score until I see
>other pics.
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>Think of it this way when
>it comes to the extra
>points: If you added the
>extras to the buck?s gross
>frame and then subtracted the
>same extras from the score
>they would negate each other,
>as if they weren't there.
>They wouldn't be counted against
>the bucks score in that
>case.
>
>So in this case if this
>bucks frame; 204? gross and
>he has 6? of extras.
>204 + 6 = 210;
>210 - (6 + 2.5)
>= 201.5 with this formula
>you wouldn't be deducting any
>of the extras from the
>typical frame. It would
>be as if he didn't
>grow the extras at all.
>
>
>What you would do is 204
>? (6+2.5) = 195.5 this
>would give you the net
>typical score.

Than minus the difference in comparing the right G1 to the left G1 and so on... follow the score sheet.
 
I was going off of info he gave us. He said that there was 2.5" of total deductions...that would include g1-g1, g2-g2, g3-g3, etc
 
>I was going off of info
>he gave us. He said
>that there was 2.5" of
>total deductions...that would include g1-g1,
>g2-g2, g3-g3, etc

I know from what he said, but one side could be 80" and the other side 76.5" total gross. But did he know to net each point? That's all i was saying.
 
I guess I was giving him the benifit of the doubt. Those numbers seem really high to me, but like I said I will keep my mouth shut until I see the other pics.
 
Go on B&C's web site. They now have the score sheets available online. You just enter the measurements as you go down the sheet. Leave it blank if there is no point to match on the other side. Once you enter all the numbers you puch the "go to step 2" button.

Badaboom badah bing you get the score. It is really slick.
 
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Here is a crapy scan pic. He cut the top couple inches of horn of when he made pics he had such great photos and somehow this is the one i ended up with. I will still get a better pic but u can get a better idea he is far from a 160 to 170 class deer as others have stated.
 
Look how tall he is and the depth of those forks. He'll be darn near the 195 even with the deductions. Who cares though--it's an awesome deer and congratulations to the hunter.

I forgot that everyone is an expert and a critic on here.
 
I wanted to get a real good pic up but i am headed out for O Canada on a moose and deer hunting trip in Alberta for 2 weeks. Maybye when i get back i will get a good pic and put up. Like i said now that i see how to count the nt points he will not make the net of 195. He will fall just short. still a awsome public land buck.
 
I agree with BeanMan, "screw the score". He is a TOAD of a buck and one that any hunter would/should be proud of taking!

He's got all the size he needs to be world class in anyones book!

Zeke
 
haha that's a good way to silence the critics of this "expert scoring without seeing in person" computer world. Tell everybody you will worry about it after your 2 week moose and deer hunting trip. Put things in perspective for them. Quit complaining on the computer and get out and hunt.
 
Judas Priest quit trying to justify everything you said about the buck. Know how to score before you throw up #'s so you can back it up without fealing stupid.


Sit tall in the saddle, hold your head up high, keep your eyes fixed to where the trail meets the sky...
 
Scoring bucks has gotta be one of the worst things that's happened to hunting imo. I'll probably get beat up for saying it, but that's how I feel. Great buck!
 
I'm glad you posted up a great looking Buck. Screw the score Who wouldn't love shooting him.

"I have found if you go the extra mile it's Never crowded".
 
He's a stud, for sure. I'll take a great looking buck over inches any day. I don't need no dad-gun tape measure to know what looks good. I got a roll of tissue worth more than your book of ego papers.

DC
 

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